Constipated?

Latest post Tue, Apr 28 2009 8:56 PM by IC_LIGHT_LVR. 7 replies.
  • Thu, Apr 2 2009 6:36 PM

    Constipated?

    If you are bothered by occasional or frequent constipation, repeat the following phrase 3 times when symptoms occur:

    "My financial and personal well-being are totally in the hands of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Geithner, Raham Emmanual, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, & Al Gore."

    If this doesn't scare the ----out of you, then you are probably destined to be full of it the rest of your life.

    Bossman Mike

     

  • Fri, Apr 3 2009 7:15 AM In reply to

    • ntcfm1
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    Re: Constipated?

    BM, I'd say it induces nausea and vomiting.  Scary?  How about the Dem gang (well, not all...20 of them dissenting) passed the House budget at only $3.6 trillion?  Check these highlights from today's WSJ (although I'd recommend reading the piece in its entirety) and see if you feel like you're going to barf.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123871911466984927.html

    All presidents present the best possible case for their budgets, but a mind-numbing array of numbers offers innumerable opportunities to conjure up misleading comparisons.

    Mr. Obama's characterizations of his budget unfortunately fall into this pattern. He claims to reduce the deficit by half, to shave $2 trillion off the debt (the cumulative deficit over his 10-year budget horizon), and not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year. While in a Clintonian sense correct (depends on what the definition of "is" is), it is far more accurate to describe Mr. Obama's budget as almost tripling the deficit. It adds $6.5 trillion to the national debt, and leaves future U.S. taxpayers (many of whom will make far less than $250,000) with the tab. And all this before dealing with the looming Medicare and Social Security cost explosion.

    And more further down:

    The CBO baseline cumulative deficit for the Obama 2010-2019 budget is $9.3 trillion. How much additional deficit and debt does Mr. Obama add relative to a do-nothing budget with none of his programs? Mr. Obama's "debt difference" is $4.829 trillion -- i.e., his tax and spending proposals add $4.829 trillion to the CBO do-nothing baseline deficit. The Obama budget also adds $177 billion to the fiscal year 2009 budget. To this must be added the $195 billion of 2009 legislated add-ons (e.g., the stimulus bill) since Mr. Obama's election that were already incorporated in the CBO baseline and the corresponding $1.267 trillion in add-ons for 2010-2019. This brings Mr. Obama's total additional debt to $6.5 trillion, not his claimed $2 trillion reduction. That was mostly a phantom cut from an imagined 10-year continuation of peak Iraq war spending.

    And still more:

    Finally, what of the claim not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000 a year? Even ignoring his large energy taxes, Mr. Obama must reconcile his arithmetic. Every dollar of debt he runs up means that future taxes must be $1 higher in present-value terms. Mr. Obama is going to leave a discounted present-value legacy of $6.5 trillion of additional future taxes, unless he dramatically cuts spending. (With interest the future tax hikes would be much larger later on.) Call it a stealth tax increase or ticking tax time-bomb.

    What does $6.5 trillion of additional debt imply for the typical family? If spread evenly over all those paying income taxes (which under Mr. Obama's plan would shrink to a little over 50% of the population), every income-tax paying family would get a tax bill for $163,000. (In 10 years, interest would bring the total to well over a quarter million dollars, if paid all at once. If paid annually over the succeeding 10 years, the tax hike every year would average almost $34,000.) That's in addition to his explicit tax hikes. While the future tax time-bomb is pushed beyond Mr. Obama's budget horizon, and future presidents and Congresses will decide how it will be paid, it is likely to be paid by future income tax hikes as these are general fund deficits.

    We can get a rough idea of who is likely to pay them by distributing this $6.5 trillion of future taxes according to the most recent distribution of income-tax burdens. We know the top 1% or 5% of income-taxpayers pay vastly disproportionate shares of taxes, and much larger shares than their shares of income. But it also turns out that Mr. Obama's massive additional debt implies a tax hike, if paid today, of well over $100,000 for people with incomes of $150,000, far below Mr. Obama's tax-hike cut-off of $250,000. (With interest, the tax hike would rise to more than $162,000 in 10 years, and over $20,000 a year if paid annually the following 10 years). In other words, a middle-aged two-career couple in New York or California could get a future tax bill as big as their mortgage.

     

  • Fri, Apr 3 2009 9:09 AM In reply to

    • Burghman
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    Re: Constipated?

    bossman:

    If you are bothered by occasional or frequent constipation, repeat the following phrase 3 times when symptoms occur:

    "My financial and personal well-being are totally in the hands of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Geithner, Raham Emmanual, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, & Al Gore."

    If this doesn't scare the ----out of you, then you are probably destined to be full of it the rest of your life.

    Bossman Mike

     

     

    Today's financial crisis has been brought to you by 8 years of unfettered free market ideology from the likes of Greenspan, Bush & Phil Gramm

     

  • Fri, Apr 3 2009 10:15 AM In reply to

    Re: Constipated?

     I'm thinking about quitting my job, start smoking crack and shootin heroin, seeing a shrink, crying "crazy", applying for Social Security disability, having all the medical coverage I need, all the FREEBIES, help with my mortgage, foodstamps, FREE bus passes and, oh, by the way, a FREE CELL PHONE !!!!!

    This plan seems the only hope there is............

     

  • Sat, Apr 4 2009 10:12 AM In reply to

    Re: Constipated?

    That might be the way to go. Let "Big Brother" take care of you.  The Dems are all for it.

    They forget, however, that they were in charge during the last three years of the Bush admin, and things didn't turn out too well. 

    I don't know how many have noticed it, but we're on our way to prosperity.  There should be an extra $1.10 in your pay now   This is compliments of the stimulus joke.  It should really get things going! (Isn't it amazing how grown-ups can come up with these inane ideas and think they are the answer?)  That was $1.10!

    Bossman Mike

  • Sun, Apr 5 2009 3:57 PM In reply to

    • Burghman
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    Re: Constipated?

    bossman:

    That might be the way to go. Let "Big Brother" take care of you.  The Dems are all for it.

    They forget, however, that they were in charge during the last three years of the Bush admin, and things didn't turn out too well. 

    Bossman Mike

     

    Let's hear your take on what the dems did while "they were in charge" 

    And, you already have one thing wrong : they only had slight majorities after the 2006 mid-terms and didn't gain chairmanships of committee's until 2007 - that would make it the last 2 years of Bush.  They gained additional seats in 2008

     

     

  • Thu, Apr 9 2009 11:57 AM In reply to

    • Burghman
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     In early 2007, as the new chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Barney Frank sponsored H.R. 1427, a bill to create the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), granting that agency "general supervisory and regulatory authority over" Fannie and Freddie and directing it to reform the companies' business practices and regulate their exposure to credit and market risk.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.

    The FHFA was eventually created after Congress incorporated provisions that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said were "similar" to those of H.R. 1427 into the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, which Bush signed into law on July 30, 2008.

    Furthermore, before taking over the House Financial Services Committee chairmanship, Frank worked with committee chairman Rep. Michael Oxley (R-OH) on the Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005, which would have established the FHFA to replace the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) as overseer of the activities of Fannie and Freddie. After voting for the bill in committee, Frank voted against final passage of the bill on the House floor, stating that he was doing so because an amendment added to the bill on the House floor imposed restrictions on the kinds of nonprofit organizations that could receive funding under the bill

     

     

     

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.01427

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  • Tue, Apr 28 2009 8:56 PM In reply to

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    Burghman:

    bossman:

    That might be the way to go. Let "Big Brother" take care of you.  The Dems are all for it.

    They forget, however, that they were in charge during the last three years of the Bush admin, and things didn't turn out too well. 

    Bossman Mike

     

    Let's hear your take on what the dems did while "they were in charge" 

    And, you already have one thing wrong : they only had slight majorities after the 2006 mid-terms and didn't gain chairmanships of committee's until 2007 - that would make it the last 2 years of Bush.  They gained additional seats in 2008

    LMAO! Now I'm convinced this is Prospitt. 

    Hey, hucklebuck, how do you feel about Obama toeing the Bush Economic line?  Makes more sense with your man cruch calling the shots, eh?

    BTW, it's a shame that the P-G Forums doesn't support text editing.  I was looking forward to some "Thanks" in big red font. LOL!

     

     

     

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