Do we need — and can we afford — heath care reform?

Latest post Fri, Sep 18 2009 1:12 PM by Burghman. 5 replies.
  • Wed, Sep 16 2009 4:22 PM

    Do we need — and can we afford — heath care reform?

    Rasmussen Reports, a polling firm based in Asbury Park, N.J., show that President Obama’s health care reform was approved by some 51 percent of Americans after his speech before a joint session of Congress. That figure has dropped to 45 percent. Do we need -- and can we afford -- health care reform? [Read PG story.]

     

     

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  • Thu, Sep 17 2009 7:58 AM In reply to

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    PG Admin21:

    Rasmussen Reports, a polling firm based in Asbury Park, N.J., show that President Obama’s health care reform was approved by some 51 percent of Americans after his speech before a joint session of Congress. That figure has dropped to 45 percent. Do we need -- and can we afford -- health care reform?

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    First, depending on how the questions was asked, Rasumssen is largey a republican leaning polling organization and skews their results  It would be helpful if you posted what question was asked.

    Second of the 20 major industrialized countries in the world, the US is the only one without a public option for health care coverage.

    Third, in the US we pay more for health care than any in the world and our life expectancy is below some third world countries.

    Fourth, nobody in the other industrialized countries is bankrupted by health care costs

    Fifth, soaring health care costs in the US are crippling families and are projected to go from and average of 13,000/yr for a familiy to 22,000/yr.

    Six, for profit insurance companies routinely cancel coverage for sick patients in the name of profits and stock prices.

    Seven, in most countries health care is considered a right.

    Eight, Six million americans are estimated to travel abroad for health care

    Nine, cost isn't proof of quality

    In Health Care, Cost Isn’t Proof of High Quality

    In a Pennsylvania government survey of the state’s 60 hospitals that perform heart bypass surgery, the best-paid hospital received nearly $100,000, on average, for the operation while the least-paid got less than $20,000

    At both, patients had comparable lengths of stay and death rates.

    And among the 20 hospitals serving metropolitan Philadelphia, two of the highest paid actually had higher-than-expected death rates, the survey found

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/business/20070614_INSURE1.pdf

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/14/health/14insure.html

    MEXICO CITY It sounds almost too good to be true: a health care plan with no limits, no deductibles, free medicines, tests, X-rays, eyeglasses, even dental work all for a flat fee of $250 or less a year.

    To get it, you just have to move to Mexico.

    As the United States debates an overhaul of its health care system, thousands of American retirees in Mexico have quietly found a solution of their own, signing up for the health care plan run by the Mexican Social Security Institute.

     

     

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-08-31-mexico-health-care_N.htm

     

    Lower costs lure U.S. patients abroad for treatment

     

    Study: More than 6 million from U.S. will travel abroad for treatment in the next year

    Companies creating a niche in the service industry as medical travel planners

    Hospitals market upscale accommodations, Western-trained surgeons

     

    Next year alone, an estimated 6 million Americans will travel abroad for surgery, according to a 2008 Deloitte study. "Medical care in countries such as India, Thailand and Singapore can cost as little as 10 percent of the cost of comparable care in the United States," the report found.

    Companies such as Los Angeles-based Planet Hospital are creating a niche in the service industry as medical travel planners. One guidebook says that more than 200 have sprung up in the last few years. "We find the best possible surgeons and deliver their service to patients safely, affordably and immediately," said Rudy Rupak, president of Planet Hospital. "No one should have to choose between an operation to save their life or going bankrupt."

     

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/03/27/india.medical.travel/index.html

     

  • Thu, Sep 17 2009 1:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: Do we need — and can we afford — heath care reform?

     The Health Insurance Racket:

    Getting Rich by Denying Americans Care

    CIGNA’s Edward Hanway spends his holidays in a $13 million beach house in New Jersey. Meanwhile, regular Americans are routinely denied coverage for the care they need when they need it most.

    Welcome to the American health insurance industry. Instead of helping policyholders attain the health security they need for their families, big insurance companies get rich by denying coverage to patients. Now they’re sending lobbyists to Washington, DC to twist the arms of lawmakers to oppose reform of the status quo. Why? Because the status quo pays.

    Learn more about the glamorous lives of billionaire health insurance executives and tell us your story of being victimized by their greed.

     

     

    http://sickforprofit.com/

     

  • Thu, Sep 17 2009 4:21 PM In reply to

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    "No public option", "keep the government out of health care"

    Protesters should be careful for what they wish for.  Highmark has already posted it's hefty increases in premiums beginning in January.

     

     

  • Fri, Sep 18 2009 10:23 AM In reply to

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    PG Admin21:

    Rasmussen Reports, a polling firm based in Asbury Park, N.J., show that President Obama’s health care reform was approved by some 51 percent of Americans after his speech before a joint session of Congress. That figure has dropped to 45 percent. Do we need -- and can we afford -- health care reform? [Read PG story.]

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    The latest issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, one of the pre-eminent medical journals in the world, has results of a truly scientific poll whose methodology is indeed rigorous and public, which looked at physicians' views about the public option and expanding Medicare.

    Here is a summary of their findings:

     

     

     

     

    Overall, a majority of physicians (62.9%) supported public and private options (see Panel A of graph, at right). Only 27.3% supported offering private options only. Respondents - across all demographic subgroups, specialties, practice locations, and practice types - showed majority support (>57.4%) for the inclusion of a public option (see Table 1, online).

    Primary care providers were the most likely to support a public option (65.2%); among the other specialty groups, the "other" physicians - those in fields that generally have less regular direct contact with patients, such as radiology, anesthesiology, and nuclear medicine - were the least likely to support a public option, though 57.4% did so.

    Physicians in every census region showed majority support for a public option, with percentages in favor ranging from 58.9% in the South to 69.7% in the Northeast. Practice owners were less likely than nonowners to support a public option (59.7% vs. 67.1%, P<0.001), but a majority still supported it. Finally, there was also majority support for a public option among AMA members (62.2%).

     http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=1790&query=home

     

     

     

  • Fri, Sep 18 2009 1:12 PM In reply to

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     Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE58G6W520090917

     

    Of course, we're happy to spend trillions on war due to the deaths of 3,000 people

     

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