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One on one with Matt Clement

  Mike White | Friday, June 26, 10 a.m.

You'd have to agree that Matt Clement's story certainly is an interesting one. He retired as a major-league baseball pitcher only a few months ago. On Monday night, he was hired as Butler High School's new boys' basketball coach.

He is a 1993 Butler graduate who always used to say that coaching basketball would be his ultimate goal when he was finished with baseball. I spent some time with Clement at his Butler home the other day for a feature story in Sunday's newspaper. But newspaper stories can't go on forever. Clement had some interesting things to say that didn't make the story. Here are a few subjects Clement talked about:

On who impacted him the most during his major-league career:  "The first was Trevor Hoffman, just as far as his work ethic, how hard you have to work to be good at something. You don’t know how hard that guy works. The second would’ve been Greg Maddux. I only got to spend one year with him and I don’t know if I learned everything I could’ve learned from him. But the stuff that goes through his head, how he figures things out was unbelievable. He just shows you how good you have to be mentally to be successful at the game.

"The best thing about Maddux was how humble he was. He was crazy, just with his some of his antics and different things he did. But he never wanted any credit for anything. If he helped you, he’d say, ‘Don’t tell the paper I helped you. Just say you did it.’ I’ve been around so many superstars with so many different attitudes. This guy could’ve had the biggest attitude, but he had the smallest one and he helped me so much just on how to pitch."

On Manny being Manny. Clement played a few seasons with Manny Ramirez and the Boston Red Sox and has a Ramirez autographed jersey on a wall in his house: "Everyone knows Manny. I love Manny. He was one of the hardest working guys I ever played with. I might be one of the few people to talk good about him, but he's a guy who would come to the field early to work. He had his moments. I think where he gets misunderstood is he makes about two bone0headed plays a year. Then all of a sudden, all of his bonehead plays over the years come up.

"But I liked him. The first two years I was in Boston, he was batting, like, .180 in May. But he acted the same way as if he were batting .300. I loved how even-keeled he was. He was always the same person whether he hit a home run or grounded out. He was never beating on walls and screaming. You get what you get with Manny, but if I had to pick one person that I played with who I needed to win a game, it would absolutely be Manny."

 

 

On the places he played and what he likes about living in Butler: "During the season, I loved the places I played. But places like Boston and Chicago were just crazy. No matter where you went, people talked about the season. But I’ve always enjoyed myself here in Butler. I like the change of seasons. Football season is one of my favorite seasons. I like the fall. A lot of places I could’ve lived, there wasn’t a fall. There was summer and a winter."

On his days playing basketball at Butler. He was a starting point guard on the 1993 team that made it to the WPIAL Class AAAA championship: "I’ve always supported the programs at Butler and I’ve always said being a basketball player was one of the coolest times of my life. The teammates I had, the winning we did – it’s always been something I really enjoyed. Obviously, basketball is my first love."

On high school sports now and when he played:  "I think what is kind of cool and unique about me is I played in 1993 when the coaching styles were a little more ‘knock you over, drag you down, beat you up.’ I was perfect for that mold. I think from 1993 to 2009 things have changed. If you beat kids down enough, parents will be in there saying you’re hurting kids’ emotions. I think one of the things that I bring to the table is I lived through that change and was a competitor through that change."I’d like to say kids are the same, but times have changed. I was nuts back then. Hopefully, I have about 10 kids who are as nuts as I was. But when you talk about what kind of style I’ll have as a coach, I think the one thing you have to bring up is we’re going to play defense. The No. 1 focus of what we’re going to do is play defense. We’re going to have some fun. We’re not going to try and win games 28-20, but our offense is going to be determined by what we have on offense. If I say we’re going to shoot 3-pointers, and we don’t have the players to shoot 3-pointers, then we’re going to lose."

On his passion for being "prepared":  I don’t do things for a joke. When I go into something, I’m dead serious about it. My biggest issue (he laughs) is I never want to feel like I’m not prepared enough. When I played, I’d study films, run extra and do whatever I thought I needed to be prepared. One thing I promise you [about coaching] is that we will never ‘not’ be prepared. My conscience doesn’t let me not be prepared. If I had one worry (he laughs again), it’s that if there are 300 films to watch for a game, I’ll try and watch all 300 of them. That’s how I operate. If you play professional sports, you have to go above and beyond just what is expected – and I plan to bring that same attiude into coaching."


Posted Jun 26 2009, 09:50 AM by Mike White

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Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Sat, Jun 27 2009 8:47 AM

You know, the Bible tellls us not to gossip.  In this case, I can't help it.  

And more so, I'm hoping it's all true!

As sports archives inform,Matt Clement has had a heckuva run in the bigs, and notably for a kid who was a fine athlete, but no child prodigy beyond a blazing fast ball that none had much idea where it would land.  But he tamed that pitch and a bunch of others, and he made it.  Made it quite well by every measure.  Won a pile of games.  Never got arrested.  Did it all absent of steroids.  Never allowed his fame to overcome his godly humility and his grass-roots work ethic.

Growing up in the 'burbs of Butler, we despised the Golden Tornado, their hogging the sports page often when it wasn't merited in the Butler Eagle, and their Matt Clement-types.  

But you know, with this selection, I've become a huge Butler bball booster, hoping that Clement's run is hugely successful and lasting a lifetime for him, his family, and his players.  

Why? Well my gossip sources tell me that Matt Clement is not only a fine athlete, but more important, one of the most decent of our kind.  Good luck, Matt!  Do your best in shaping some good teams, and molding young men.  The latter is so much more important.  Butler made a solid choice, one that will serve their community.

But do win some games, Matt.  There are plenty of nuts in the likes of Lyndora, Meridian, and the Island who'll not be satisfied with mere man-making.

Go Tornado!

Bobbi Jean wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Sat, Jun 27 2009 12:01 PM

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble here, but this story has more negative outcomes than positive ones.  He is not qualified to coach a Quad A baskeball program.  It's small town school board politics at its best.  The safe, easy choice, is not the right one.  What justification can one make to support this hire?  2 yrs rec league coaching?  16 yrs MLB experience? The 'B' stands for baseball, not basketball, by the way.  

If someone with Matt's exact credentials applied for the Butler opening, but grew up in , let's say, Birmingham, AL, the school board would have laughed at the application, saying this person is not qualified to be a head coach. But because he's from Butler, there's extra special consideration.  This reeks of provincialism at its best, and bypassing much better qualified candidates, at its worst.  This story feels good now, but dig deep, and you'll see a flawed interviewing / selection process for this one.  

A good guy who supports the community does not equal good basketball coach.  Sorry.

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:00 AM

Since mine is th sole pollyannish response toward which Bobbi Jean's observation might be directed, allow a brief response.

Not pooh-poohing "experience", I'd say Matt Clement has a ton of it in rather high pressure scenarios.  Including one of Butler's few winning basketball eras.  So I don't buy the idea that because he's only coached some youth hoops, he's not qualified to coach a AAAA program like Butler's.  

The x and o's are the same regardless.  And he knows what a winning program looks like.  For sure don't you hope he'll learn and get better as well.  Butler has had no track record of hiring and retaining anyone with great experience on the court and building men.  While I''ll not go back thru the very long list of failed coaches there, I would venture that probably the best they ever had was Terry Thompson.  And he left Butler after building a winner which nearly immediately went back in the tank.

The only challenge Matt will have, and fortunately for him and his family he's a wealth of income unrelated to his work there @ BHS ...and he's a wealth of faith with the firmest of foundations, it seems in light of Mike White's article in the Sunday PG.  Both will serve him well in 2 ways:

1. Being free to do that which he deems is right and best in building a program in disarray.  That'll take time.

2. Being free to tell meddling parents to go to <BLEEP> (Matt would not say this, I suspect. ;-)   )

So is there some risk in hiring Matt Clement?  You bet?  But one thing the community of Butler knows is they've a loyal, faithful man who'll work hard, knows the game, and more important will love his young men in a heavenly way.  And maybe coach them to do the same along the way to winning a few ballgames or at the very least, doing their best and respecting their competitors and teammates.  Those lessons are way more important than trying to figure out what the heck a dribble-drive is!

Lastly, looking back over the myriad of mediocre Butler basketball teams over the past 50 years (with a few abberant seasons), it seems like there's been plenty of risk in hiring a bunch of coaches with all kinds of "experience" in ranting, raving, etc. and not winning many seaons along the way.

Pick your risk.  I'm betting on Clement, although I've never met him.

Bobbi Jean wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Sun, Jun 28 2009 9:01 PM

Whistle Pig--I hate to say this but you are uninformed about the success of Butler in the 1990's. WPIAL Title in 1991, anyone?  Western Region runner up in State 1993.  Not an aberration.   The best coach was not Terry Thompson.  The x's and o's are not the same.  It's the very reason coaches in High school can't make the leap to College, it's different.  Having never played the game, I'll take a wild guess here that a 10 year old requires a different strategy vs. a 17 year old?  If you think it's the same, you fell into the same trap Butler's School Board did.  

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Mon, Jun 29 2009 7:24 AM

Bobbi Jean, you're moon-walking.

Indeed Butler's had some notable success. btw, who was the point guard on that nice '91 team????  Yea, you got it.

But your Magnet myopia is blinding you.  Butler, as the perennial monster school in the WPIAL for many decades, graduating 1300 or so at its peak, and still among the top 2 or 3 ...has had a history of mediocrity over the past half century.  Heck, most of the Cubs AC teams could consistently beat Butler basketball teams.  

As for '91, '93?  Even a blind pig can win a title when you have more boys graduating than any of your competitors ...for the past 50 years and more!  Ask Ed Hepe.

Youve gotta be another blind Butler basketball mama living in the lala land of the tarnished Golden Tornado.  And over the past 25 years or so that mediocrity has been like a tidal wave sweeping over your football program as well.

Yours is called dreaming.  And Matt Clement can only be an asset to a chronically underachieving, pervasively poor athletic program in which the best kids no longer care to perform for their school.  

Now, if you want to talk about the girls, that's a different story.

Gladiator_Pride wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Mon, Jun 29 2009 8:45 AM

Wow, great stuff Mike.  I just read the article from Sunday's paper and then backtracked and saw this blog post.  Well done.

As far as politics are concerned, sure there was probably some but this isn't quite as bad as some of the screwups we've seen this spring (West Mifflin girls' coach, Hempfield boys' coach, Gateway football staff having to wait so long before jobs were finalized, not to mention some of the way crazy stuff that I hear is happening in Cambria County outside of the WPIAL-footprint).

You're talking about a former pro athlete here.  To say he's not qualified for the job is misguided.  Not for basketball.  Plus, this guy is well-off financially so he can pour as much time as he wants in the job without worrying about full time work as a teacher or administrator.  I think it's a positive for Butler.  If you don't like the pick, who else would you have wanted in the job?

Now if Butler could get their football program turned around...

Bobbi Jean wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Mon, Jun 29 2009 1:01 PM

Gladiator--Why do you imply the basketball program is turned around b/c they hired Clement? That's too presumptious for me.  And there were at least two candidates for the position  that would coach circles around Clement.  I don't want to breach their confidentiality by stating their names.  

Let me get this straight--A 16 year professional athlete in baseball who coached two years of 4th grade basketball is qualified to take over a basketball program?? You can't be serious.  If that's the case, how many former professional baseball players are coaching HS basketball right now?

Butler qualified for WPIAL and  state playoffs from 1988 - 1997, including said WPIAL title in 91, and West Region Final Runner up in 93, 95, 97.  That's a bit more than blind pig stuff.

Whistle, you talk out of both sides of your mouth. The girls at Butler are a different story?  Lose in 1st round of playoffs this year as #2 seed.  That's underachieving with one of the country's best players.  Do your homework.

You don't even know who started for Butler in 91.  And if this wasn't an underhanded way to hand Clement the job, why did the former coach get fired in Mid-April, only after Clement decided to retire ( a full 2 months after their season was over).  Think about it.

Gladiator_Pride wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Mon, Jun 29 2009 2:17 PM

bobbi jean, that's probably poor wording on my part.  I re-read my post and I see how you could take that I was implying the basketball team was turned around.  My only point was that I took this hire as a positive and step in the right direction and looking at Butler's football records of recent (in the WPIAL where EVERYONE makes the postseason), they could use a boost too.

We obviously disagree with the hire, but I like to give a guy a chance before he's written off.  

You don't think the lessons Matt learned playing MLB can't be off great importance to young men as far as competition is concerned?  You don't think he comes in right away with a respect factor high off the bat?  Sometimes there is more than Xs and Os.  This kind of thinking outside of the box could be fine (fair enough, it could fail miserably, we shall see).

You seem to be taking this rather personally and I'm not sure there's some reading in between the lines that needs to be done or if you just don't like the hire.  Like I said in my first post, there has been some stuff in Cambria County that's gone on that I've been privy to all the parties involved as far as who got hired vs. who wanted the job.  Without knowing all the people that applied for the Butler job and their corresponding resumes, well, it's hard for me to look at this as a "bad hire".

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Mon, Jun 29 2009 5:42 PM

It seems you're on the $, Gladiator, in noting that bobbi jean is emotionally wrapped up in someone who did NOT get hired. And rather than expose him and his merits, she prefers to drag down a local hero and good man by any apparent measure.  Welcome back to Butler, Matt!

In fact, Clement brings little risk..  Butler's program has only one way to go. As illustrated by referring to the good old days of nearly 20 years past.   Heck, I remember when Terry Hanratty played for a very so-so Tornado 5 too,

Clement's great risk is just one.

Butler "boosters" like Bobbi'll do anything but.  Her kind is living 20 years hence in applauding really ancient history, and there are a great many who join her who haunt the Hot Dog Shop, or Burger Hut, or wherever they hang more recently.  As noted, Clement has plenty of stick-it-in-your-ear money.  Hopefully the Board will give him some time to build a program, not merely win a few games.

Go get 'em, Matt. Be fearless. You've the BIG AD on your side! I join others in betting this becomes a super hire.  Lots of upside for a fading town that could use a boost in communtiy pride.  Matt Clement has done that before from afar, and I'm betting he can do it again, up close and personal.

By the way, sports history is filled with extraordinary stories of successful coaches with minimal "W's" as they came to their tasks.  All were great teachers.  Teach the locals, Mr. Clement.  About playing the games of basketball and life.

Bobbi Jean wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Tue, Jun 30 2009 10:55 AM

You've offered up nothing but cliched responses, mindless fluff and cute slogans.  Can we get something thought provoking?  This no longer interests me.

dontbotherme wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Tue, Jun 30 2009 2:22 PM

Whistle Pig; your comments are humorous to say the least.  Misinformation about Butler's basketball program is just one of the many things you state here that are totally off base.  From around the late 80's thru the late 90's Butler boys basketball was an elite program.  Nothing to do with Terry Thompson at all, and there were players a lot better than Matt Clement during those years.  If you read the Butler Eagle like you claim in your first post you'll know who those players were.  What this hire has done for one thing, is open the door for anyone who was a mediocre-at-best hs player in any sport to come out and apply for any coaching vacancy, just because it's something "they've always wanted to do".  You yourself Whistle Pig are qualified to coach hs sports based on the criteria used by the Butler School Board.  Forget the pro athlete aspect; does he know how to relate to an average hs player in 2009?  What about dealing with parents?   Something tells me that if a multi-millionaire has to put up with 1/10th of what high school coaches have to deal with on a regular basis simply because that coaching salary may play a significant part in their finances, then he could walk away from this job in a New York minute.   In other words, he doesn't really need this job, and it sounds like it's just something he wants to do because he cannot play baseball any longer.  Bobbie Jean mentions the timing of the firing of the coach from last season, and that seems awfully coincidental with the announcement of Clement retiring from baseball.

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Tue, Jun 30 2009 4:23 PM

don, you've some points I'll give to you.  But your notion that Butler has been an "elite" program for a decade is not one of them.  That's pure folly.  A few good seasons. And let it go at that.  And none in recent years.

But what this thread does illustrate is the delusional view Butlerites have of their athletic program.  Given the history and magnitude of the place ...since escaping Section 3 of yore, should NEVER have a down year.  It's a very sad and fading scenario with nothing but turnover after turnover ...and I'm not talking basketball or football games... coaches, ADs, you name it.  Now why would that be?  Not because it's an "elite" program.  Maybe playing football in the '60s.  

And I'll stick by the notion that Terry Thompson was without a doubt the best hoops coach Butler has had in 50 seasons or more. The only one to win a state championship!

dontbotherme wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Tue, Jun 30 2009 7:25 PM

Whistle Pig, if anyone is delusional it's you and your memory or lack of one regarding Butler HS Basketball!  Here are the Cliff Notes - Terry Thompson hired in 1981 from Knoch; won MAYBE 4 games his 1st season at Butler.  Realized he couldn't get it done with the hand he was dealt, so Chuck DeVenzio (RIP) sent him a player from Aruba, via his son Dick DeVenzio (RIP), then the meltdown occurred.  Let's just say that drugs were dealt in Butler around that time.  Terry Thompson leaves Butler to coach at Fairview in Erie, never to be heard from again.  Dave Barnes then gets hired and is more into Tennis than Basketball.  He gets fired, then in 1989, 1990, 1991, and 1992 Butler wins Section 3 Title those 4 consecutive seasons, wins the WPIAL AAAA Title in 1991, makes it to the Western Finals in 1991 and lost the game to go to Hershey to Altoona, which featured 9th grade sensation Dan Fortson.  1993 Butler fails to win Section 3, but makes it to the WPIAL AAAA Championship game only to lose to New Castle featuring the 2 guys from Houston, Texas.  Good night Whistle Pig, I'm really tired now!!    

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Tue, Jun 30 2009 9:10 PM

4 competitive years since ....Let's see 1965?  No, go back further n that.  1955?  Nope, not there yet.  Remember when we used to jump it up after every basket @ the old Y/Cubs AC?  Hey, Armco had a heckuva Y team.

Yea, Butler is an "elite" program. In your dreams.  That is the really laughable notion.  Like Obama promising us "no tax incresases last fall."  uh huh.  

I'll make you a friendly bet.  Take the  athletic seasons since 1950... I'll bet over that 60 year period, Butler ...that your allegedly  "elite" basketball school ...has had fewer winning seasons than losers?  Wanna  bet???.   Heck, Seneca Valley now thumps Butler's  elite basketball powerhouse. I think we're in the Twilight Zone.

And remember ...Butler's long been  THE BIGGEST school in the WPIAL for most of those seasons.  Always top 3!  Heck, Farrell used to whoop up on the Tornado when Butler had 1,300 kids to a class and Farrell was graduating maybe 70 or 80?  Yea, elite.

Who was the most successful coach in Butler HS hoop history?  George Abraham?  Following  years of mediocrity at that other Butler Co. powerhouse up the road?  Who else?

Butler is a graveyard for coaches in any sport. And it's threads like this one that offer some illumination as to why that is so.  Only in Butler would the old football coach run the school board, trying to return the place to its perceived golden era.  Sorta like Bobbi Jean's inkling at now in hoops?  A golden era of 3 or 4 seasons in a monumentally weak section.  Remember, Armstrong Central  won that section around that time, as I recall.  And the school was only in existence for 3 or 4 years before disbanding.  No Farrells, Ambridges, Aliquippas, Beaver Falls among that stellar bunch.  Only Butler.

Butler being called "elite" in anything beyond swimming and gymnastics is a total joke.  And even those are now ancient history.  Not many Olympians coming off the hill these days.

And let's move on from a stretch of 3 or 4 seasons when a few players carried a very weak Section 3.    

Check it out ...1955 - 2009.  Basketball thrills in Butler are like Brigadoon ...only to be experienced every 100 years.  Literally.

Since you're tired, go back to dreaming about Tank Rettig, the Saul boys, Scott Milanovich, and Terry Hanratty.

Now to the BHS question of the day:  Has Butler EVER had a legitimate, big time  Division I basketballl player?    Name him. Probably one of the best ??? Matt Clement.  Go figure.  

And remember ...this THE biggest WPIAL school nearly every season.

Nope, I remain persuaded that Matt Clement is a super hire for Butler basketball, whatever the timing.  The only basketball legacy worth resurrecting there?  He was one of the stars.

But alleged Butler boosters ...quit spitting and shooting @ the messenger and now your new coach, and give him a chance.  

And if you want to shoot the evil perpetrators of that which you are bemoaing, go after your School Board.

Then get behind Matt Clement.  He's a born n bred Butler boy whose made it  big time for longer than any other Tornado alum in any sport in modern history.  And to boot, he's the kind of man any father'd be proud of ...and many more'd be happy to have their sons hanging with.

Gladiator_Pride wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 8:49 AM

The word "elite" is so overused in the sports vocabulary these days.  There is a level of performance greater than average but less than truly elite.  Good, very good, solid, above average.  Those all could be appropriate terms.  A truly elite program is one with mulitple state titles, state title game appearances, etc.  They should have a certain mystique about them.

To suggest that Butler basketball is an elite program is laughable.  I'm not saying that to sound insulting.  They have a very good program with tradition and loyal following but that is a very different thing than being considered elite.  

Thomas Jefferson football is an example of an elite program.  Southern Columbia football is another example (although they've fallen off a tad).  

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 9:22 AM

Gladiator, you seem to be a most reasonable, decent, kind chap.  Much more so than me.  And as such, you're no doubt inclined to kindness when dealing with delusion.  Bless your heart.

Yes, you're right about TJ, SC, USC perhaps in hoops, Farrell years back, etc.

But Butler basketball, and like yours while my comment will do so to the emotionally engaged,  is not intended to insult or anger ...but neither is it PC.  Has epitomized mediocrity and less over the decades.  Yes, a few windows of winning, but few and far between.  And literally, never an elite player has come from there ...beyond football.  And WWC.  Big John Studd, rest his gentle soul, was a 6'10" center there.  Can anyone name just one over 60 seasons?  Again, just facts.

It has not been a "very good program with tradition and loyal following."  Perspective:  Butler HS had NEVER even filled its own gym until a playoff game between 2 small local outlying schools ...Mars and Knoch ...played there.  Now remember, this is one of 2 or 3 largest schools in the WPIAL.

Let's get honest here.  And we're both right. Elite is laughable when talking about Butler basketball.  And here's hoping Coach Clement can transform 60 years of ho-hum.  He can't do any worse than the community's been accustomed to.

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 9:25 AM

btw, an archival search will reveal one of these blog-masters pondering the very question about the grand mystery of the WPIAL ... the amazing mediocrity of Butler HS athletics. Check it out.

dontbotherme wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 10:54 AM

Since Whistle Pig's complete lack of BHS basketball history is now exposed, the best comeback he has is my use of the term "elite".  Ok WP, I'll give you that one - I was totally wrong.  Let's just call it an amazing playoff run from the late 80's to the late 90's, all done with no BIG TIME D-1 basketball players.  Is that better???    As for the rest of your comments regarding the lack of a loyal following and Matt C being the only BIG TIME D-1 hoops recruit - WRONG & WRONG!  

Gladiator_Pride wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 11:50 AM

Another word on "elite" teams/programs, it is my opinion that such a title can be revoked over a period of time due to lack of winning.  For instance, the University of Miami football program had some very lean years.  They lost some of their mojo.

Speaking of mojo, look at Permian High School in Odessa, Texas of Friday Night Lights fame.  Sure they have a lot of history and tradition and for a lot of their history they would definitely be considered an elite program.  However, they've fallen on hard times as of late and have actually hired back Gary Gaines, the coach of the FNL season.  No one familiar with Texas HS football would have considered them elite for I'm guessing 5-7 years if not longer.

Then, you have teams on the cusp of elite status but just can't get past a hump.  For instance, out of District 4, look at Selinsgrove football.  They have been dominant in the 4-AAA scene since at least 2004, have undefeated seasons, won district titles and advanced in states.  However, they can't seem to get past the WPIAL (and TJ in particular).  Now, their community supports them feverishly and thinks greatly of the program as they should.  They should be proud of what they've accomplished the last few years.  

The problem is that most people associated with an "elite" program don't have these distinctions.  Their feeling is "once elite, always elite" and tend to live in yesteryear.  That's where Butler comes in.

OK, so the program has had some success in the past.  I don't profess to have a lot of knowledge about the traditions of the school.  What I do have is facts in the form of numbers.  From last year back to 2001, you have one playoff appearance and the following records:  7-14, 13-9, 12-12, 14-10, 11-13, 10-14, 7-17 and 7-17.

That's not elite.  That's not even good.  It's mediocre.  I say give Coach Clement a chance.

Bobbi Jean wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 2:12 PM

Sorry I can't resist jumping back into this maelstrom.  Here's the deal, we're not debating whether or not Butler is an elite program --it doesn't matter--we're not talking about who all the D-1 players were that played at Butler--again it doesn't matter--the crux of the issue is this...

The Butler School Board selected Clement for the position before interviewing anyone, and tried to slip this hire in the back door. The school board opened the position up ONLY after Clement retired.  Can't anyone else see this??

They were hoping that coaches who were actually qualified for the role, wouldn't apply , so they could somehow prop this selection up.  It's shady back room dealings, and now you know why Butler has not won, or is not an elite program, it's decisions like these that have contributed to its demise. Whistle--you are proving my point why Butler is mired in mediocrity, they are afraid of winning.  THe school board would rather have a nice guy and a guy they can control and be .500, than hire the RIGHT guy for the job.  

And lastly, Clement didn't start Varsity until halfway thru Jr season. And he was NOT offered scholarships to Pitt, Duquesne and Robert Morris.  Lafayette yes, Pitt no.  I know for a fact.  It's the public relations machine spinning out of control...Pretty soon we'll read an article from Mike White that says he turned down UNC to go the the Padres. It's just not true.  

Whistle Pig wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 3:04 PM

BJ ...I do think you're getting closer to some kind of point. But with only inklings, self-proclamations that you know more about Matt than Matt, and inuendo that there was some mysterious mastermind of th hardwood just dying to come and extricate Butler from what we finally agree, is chronic medicrity.

But to cry foul about the Board being political in its appointments is like complaining that grass is green or yogurt is filled with bacteria.  That's what School Boards are.  Political bodies elected by the polity to make choices for them.  And when the polity doesn't like the choices, do something about it.  Run. Vote 'em out. Share the facts of the case.

But at least in the latter, all you've done is whine about what your elected reps have allegedly done in hiring what virtually all perceive to be a coach of exceptional character, in love with and loyal to his community when he could afford to live anywhere in the world, with coaching experience in the recent system (altho you somehow believe that persons coaching younger youth are somehow less qualified to coach older youths when many would say that is THE most challenging and important place to have stellar, knowledgeable coaches), played and started on Butler's only stellar team in the past 60 years, and then went on to become a professional athlete absent of steroids and peccadillos.  

My God, what do they want?  

Prbly a screamer and coaching hobo who'll come for a few seasons, maybe get a few wins, decide like many, Butler boosters are spoied-sports and the dying town is a haven for drug trafficking where the best kids prefer to be in the school musical  ...and discover that North Allegheny pays more, lots more, and off they go.  

Of course the Board is political. EVERYTHING is political.  Tells us something new, please.  But quit dragging a good man and his appointees in the mud with winks, raised eyebrows, and allegations that you somehow know all Coach Clement's collegiate offers from nearly 20 years ago.

How about Eddie Vargo?  Did he have any offers to catch for anyone besides the Butler Bluesox in Pullman.  If you want to bellyache about boondoggles and politicians, start there.  At the heart of Butler's economic revival.  Jeesh!

dontbotherme wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Wed, Jul 1 2009 3:14 PM

Bobbi Jean - thank you for clearing the air and reminding us as to what the real issues are regarding this matter.  We all got sidetracked, but only because of bad information being posted here that needed to be addressed.  It's misinformation like that as well as misinformation in the Mr. White articles about Mr. Clement being offered those D-1 scholarships in basketball from the likes of Pitt, Duq., Robert Morris,& Bucknell which as you state is totally inaccurate.  My guess is that it's an attempt to divert attention away from his inexperience as a basketball coach save for 2 years as a 4th grade coach.  I'm a little stunned that Mr. Clement hasn't had Mr. White put in a retraction regarding those basketball scholarship offers, being that the Bible, in addition to giving 3,000 reasons for remaining grounded, also states Thou Shall Not Bear False Witness.

Gladiator_Pride wrote re: One on one with Matt Clement
on Thu, Jul 2 2009 11:15 AM

Sorry, I thought the elite conversation was interesting and relevant...but to get back on track...

Keep in mind have nothing vested in Butler athletics and don't know Matt Clement from anybody.  There is a big difference between a D1 school "recruiting" a player and a D1 school making an offer.  I went back and re-read the story from the Sunday paper online and I don't think Mike White misrepresented anything.  He named schools that may have showed interest but just said "He had some Division I scholarship offers".  I don't think Clement nor White need to make any retraction.  Recruiting or showing interest can be as little as one form letter with no follow-up ever.  

I'm of the opinion that the point is moot as far as him getting the job.  So what if he did or did not receive a scholarship offer from a particular school over ten years ago?  

Sure, all school boards are political.  Where's the blog post about the situation at West Mifflin?  Mike?  Colin?  I think that topic would offer up a lot of comments.

There's been a few good articles, but you can't comment on PG articles (that's too bad, maybe that's something the web folks should look into).