Poll for the brain-dead

And your point is?

Bogus poll? I must be missing something here.

37% believe B.O. is a socialist

59% believe B.O. is a marxist

Sounds about right to me.

So, yes. Just what is your point, Reg?

I have to join the others in asking what the point is? This was an online poll available to visitors of an off beat website with less than a thousand respondents as of a couple of minutes ago. I could poll on move-on and probably get numbers that show that Dick Cheney was satans son; so what does that have to do with anything?

Mainstream conservatives look at the Presidents policies and conclude that some of them seem socialist in their nature. If the President is a socialist or not (I would have voted traditional liberal-traditional being the 60s-70s fashion) is not the issue, it's his policies that matter. Your poll is interesting, and I'm sure that you all had a good laugh, but it is essencially anecdotal, entirely unscientific and useless.

For at least another few months, unless the first two words from a Republican's or conservative's mouth are "I apologize" or "forgive me," I am not much interested in what follows.

Their opinions concerning President Obama, particularly with respect to terms they couldn't define with a pistol in the ear, are especially irrelevant.

Well, I suppose that conservatives will have to accept your lack of intrest with patient endurance until that time when our opinions are, once again, relevent in your eyes. Until then we will watch for your smug dismissals of what we say with gratitude, that even though it be negative, you at least regard us in some manner.

mugsy:

Come on!  

Mainstream conservatives *are* irrelevant because they – you – are doing nothing to reign in the crazies on your side.  That, I’m pretty sure, is what Infinonymous was talking about; this (the whole page, not just the cartoon at the top):

macyapper.blogspot.com/.../stupidity-works-edition.html

After 9/11, while virtually all mainstream Muslims, including governments and organizations, were being careful to say nothing in support of terrorism, they were conspicuously not denouncing it either.  That silence was a poisonous issue for some years.  American hardliners were particularly incensed.

Where are your mainstream conservatives now?

I agree with Mugsy that the poll was stupid and irrelevant, due to the sampling used.  If you did a MoveOn website poll you would no doubt get a majority saying O is a capitalist tool.

 I  think Reg's goal was to point out that people like Viguerie

are willing to use any sleight-of-hand nonsense in an attempt to manipulate the GOP for their own ends.

regis:

Exactly.

Even in the "brain-dead" the heart can be kept beating with extraordinary means.  

A man was just interviewed in Chicago, about why the olympic games should be held there.  He said that they put on so many "fun" events that Chicago is a natural.  

I mean beating to death a young man, is about as "fun" as you can get.  yeesh!

There are huge crowds gathering waiting for the announcement of Chicago being picked.  Do they know something the rest of the world doesn't know?

"The premise is so stupid, so juvenile, so insistently right-wing politically correct (and the guy has the gall to cite political correctness) that it clears all political doubts in about three seconds."

That is absurd. You can find idiotic extremists of the left and the right. They don't represent the whole, and using them as examples in this way is a lazy and/or dishonest argument. We have several such arguments making the rounds now; all who oppose Obama are racists, and all liberals want Roman Polanski to be set free are just two of the sillier ones. Basic logic flows from the general to the specific, not the other way around.

I think I figured out "the point".

Reg, was just trying to make "the point" that all conseratives are crazy. But it is not crazy to realize that some of Obama's policies are socialist in nature.

If, Mugsy, there would have been a poll on Move.On that said Dick Cheney was Satan's son, Reg would not mention it.

Ladyburg:

We should give Reg a break.  After all he isn't a journalist.  He's proven time and time again that he is nothing but a blogger.  He tells us of his travels, his thoughts and his biases.  That's a blogger - not a journalist.

We can expect no more or no less from him.  

SHOCKING news: Chicago will not host 2016 Olympic Games.!

Shocking to who? The lamestream media and Obama cheerleaders that thought just because HE is now POTUS and HE is from Chicago, it would be a slam-dunk!

As Rush said today - "Does this mean the Olympic Committee is racist?

This is the best news of the day. Now Obama thugs in Chicago and from Chicago now in this administration will not be able to reap thousands of dollars from the games.

Speaking of Chicago, why didn't Obama just stay there and clean up that mess?

Oh! I thought Reg was a comedian!

Ladyburg:

Rush is so right - I wonder how long it will take MSNBC to say it was because obama is black that Chicago didn't get the nod.  They blame racism on everything else - why should this be any different?

Obama just makes messes - he doesn't clean them up.  Messiahs don't clean.

And as far as Reg being a comedian - I must disagree on that one - comedians are funny.

All right, Reg, I realize that some folks, even folks who post on this site, are of the same mindset as Mr. Viguerie, but they are still a small minority of conservatives.

Ladybug, again, quoting Rush makes you sound as smart as I would sound if I quoted Keith Olbermann, and lamestream media wasn't funny the first 100 times you said it.

Comparing Olbermann and Rush is apples to oranges.

Rush is right on with every prediction he makes about this administration. He knows them better than they know themselves. Keith on the other hand should just stick to his national football gig.

Kevin: It is the lamestream media NOT the mainstream. I don't think its funny. It wasn't meant to be funny.Actually, it is quite sad that our media does the poor job they do.

Lame - disabled, weak. And that is just what our "news" media is. If I have to refer to them as lamestream another 100 times, I will do so.

Kevin:

The Reg's of this world don't give a rat's behind that it is a small minority on either side that are kooks.  He's just looking after "his" side.  And from all I've seen in his blogging, it is the left side.

Must disagree with your second thought.  Rush did have a valid point on the racist angle.  The left has blames racism on everything that does not go along with their ideology - why would this be any different.

And I don't think that Ladyburg thinks "lamestream" media is "funny" - she, like myself, thinks it's pretty sad.

Sorry Ladyburg, your letter appeared after I posted.  I stepped all over your answer.  Guess it doesn't hurt to hear two people say it though.

If the left doesn't cry "racism" as the reason Chicago was not chosen for the Olymipcs, they can always fall back on:

a. right-wing conspiracy

b. right-wing talk radio

c. Fox News

d. and last, but not least - GEORGE W. BUSH!

Ladybug, you say "Comparing Olbermann and Rush is apples to oranges." Both are extremely biased, spew venom, and really care only about their own ratings. Nothing either of them say is credible, because both would say and do anything they think will contribute to increasing or maintaining their listeners. Neither is a journalist, both are just showmen.

Myreply, Rush is making the same wrongheaded type of argument Reg is-only a very few radical liberals think all conservative opposition to Obama is rooted in racism. The vast majority of us, including the president, understand that there were actually conservatives who disliked liberal ideas long before there was a black president. Don't put all liberals in the same fake box, and we will continue to do the same for you by fighting when someone like Reg tries to make all conservatives look like kooks.  

Kevin:

I thought you knew me better by now.  I do not consider myself Rep or Dem - conservative in my thinking but not republican politically.

I have always said that both sides are equally quilty of wrong doing in the political arena.

But the one thing I will not tolerate - is one party using "race" as a nail in which to drive, whenever no other excuse can be used.  It is wrong morally and in the end, politically.  And during the election and now, it is being used over and over again.  I hate it - I will not tolerate it - and I will speak out against it.

You have never, and will never see me "clump" anyone in the same box.  One size fits all is a fallacy - it never looks right on all.

Myreply, your words were, "The left has blames racism on everything that does not go along with their ideology - why would this be any different."

That is lumping me and other liberals in with those extremists and dishonest folks. I, and most of the liberals I know, do not assume a person is a racist if they are conservative. I disagree with most of the conservative ideology, but I don't think of them (you) as being any less moral or ethical. I respect Jimmy Carter a great deal, but he is way off base on this.

By the way, lamestream media is a pun, a clever play on words that is at least partially done with humorous intentions. It is annoying when repeated ad nauseum.  

Kevin:

It is only those (and I did not say all) on the left that have played this race card.  I have not heard the right use this tactic.  So, I stand by my words, understanding that it is not "all", since I did not say all.  Believe me, you will know when I mean "all".

I would like to see more of those on this site, that don't believe that things like this should be part of our vernacular, speak up.  

It will not stop unless, we - all of us- speak up.

And I still think lamestream media is a good play on words.  It is a better name than I would call them in polite company.  It is more annoying what they report, (or what they fail to report)than what Ladyburg says.

myreply:

You just said:  “It is only those (and I did not say all) on the left that have played this race card.  I have not heard the right use this tactic.”

You have said such things before.

You were, in response, on one of those recent occasions, asked point-blank:  “Is it Ok to picture Obama with a bone in his nose or call him the ‘Magic Negro’?”

You of course did not answer.  You never do.  (I do mean never.)  

Are you that oblivious, or that dishonest?

callsign:

"I do not suffer fools gladly".

myreply:

I am vanquished.

Tourist and kevin,

Why do you waste your time on the brain dead?

myreply:

This is troubling.  Is myooz right?  Have I been foolish?  Have I been wasting my time?  Are you, after all, just a big old fuzzy fraud?  Please, lover, say something responsive!

myooz:

Is it so bad?  I mean, it’s not like it’s hard.

tourist,

You give her the undeserved attention she craves.

myooz:

“Undeserved” is part of the point.  I hope it highlights that not everyone turning out to speak has something worth saying.  To an extent, we are obligated to listen.  Then we have to ignore them if we’re going to get anything done.

Besides, I still have my question about this one:  oblivious or dishonest?

Oblivious