Jerks have the last word

I continue to play catch up after my return from vacation. In going through the old papers, I came upon Wednesday's PG. There on the front page was a picture of Sen. Arlen Specter at a town hall meeting in Lebanon, Pa., being a confronted by a man bellowing in rage and stabbing the air with an accusing finger.

Although the caption did not specifically say so, I assume he was a "conservative" - because uncivil behavior born of unthinking rage has become the preferred attitude of "conservatives" lately. In towns across America, the Joe the Plumber type has become Joe the Jerk. I put "conservative" in quote marks because -- naviely perhaps -- I think real conservatives might be appalled at the jerks operating in their name.

I am not much for jerks, although goodness knows I have played the part myself over the years, something I am not proud of. But these jerks have absolutely no shame. They are on a mission from the Almighty or Rush Limbaugh, And to think, all this rage because of a proposal to give all Americans health care. 

The defenders of these jerks recall the recent time when liberals resisting George W. Bush would say that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. But that is something I have never said and have problems with. I think you can love your country without making a perfect ass of yourself, which these angry men and their consorts do very well.

Moreover, I do not remember liberals setting out to corrupt public discussion on anything like the scale that has been seen in recent days. Whatever one's politics, this ought to be considered an affront to public decency. Free speech isn't about ranting and raving and shouting someone else down. Of all people, conservatives with their perennial concern about values ought to recognise that.

Sen. Specter came into the Post-Gazette this morning to speak to the editorial board. He looked sort of beaten down, lacking his usual vitality. This is an observation, not a criticism. I would appear like that too after the bitter and potentially dangerous tongue lashing he has received. I reckon anyone would.

I asked him why he doesn't draw the line on the most flagrant perpetrators of hate, the people who have clearly crossed the line and aren't at the meeting to discuss issues but to intimidate. He had just told us that he has stopped one guy from being thrown out. I told him that perhaps the guy should have been thrown out if he couldn't behave himself.

He said he didn't want to do that. His pay scale required him to get out and listen to the people - a very noble attitude, but something he will get no credit for. In fact, as he admitted, the biggest jerks at the meetings are invited onto talk shows later. "I've created a whole string of talk show celebrities," he joked ruefully.

But it really isn't very funny. Tolerance should never become licence for intolerable behavior - because that only encourages more of the same. People should be allowed to be angry, sure, but if they can't control themselves, they ought to be made to leave the meeting for the benefit of those who can.

As if all this news of the social fabric being ripped apart for mean political gain wasn't bad and frightening enough, I read that Rick Santorum is going out to Iowa, perhaps to sniff out his presidential hopes. Of course! The ultimate divisive man for divisive times!

What did W.B. Yeats write about another Second Coming?

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last

Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?"

The sensible people of this great nation better start putting country first or we are in for more trouble than angry men can dream of.

Sorry, I hope to be be in a better mood on Monday. It's just that I go away for a few days and America goes mad.

 


Posted Aug 14 2009, 06:51 PM by Reg Henry

Comments

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Sat, Aug 15 2009 10:15 AM

You talk of "conservative's"  "uncivil behavior born of unthinking rage".  While I don't condon rude and obnoxious behavior, you behavior on this site today, points out that you are the same.  You cannot take the high road when demeaning others as you have again and again.  It is hypocritical, to say the least.  Most issues are not republican or democratic - you must know that.  Health is totally an independent issue.

Perhaps it is because people's concerns are not being addressed.  Perhaps it is because people are being ignored, like your not publicly answering my inquiry as to why there is such inconsistancy in the PG's posting of these letters.  

When you can't ,or won't, answer such a simple question, how do you suppose I will ever take you seriously on the really "important" issues of today and tomorrow?  Now, I am sure you don't care one iota if I take you seriously or not - but you should - this lack of care is why newspapers are going out of business.  They go out of business because they don't keep an eye on business.

You can quote all the saying and poems you like, and it still comes down to responsibility to your readers and yourself.  I have seen little of that lately.

PghGirl wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Sun, Aug 16 2009 11:48 AM

Jerks are completely bipartisan & the designation applies to liberals & conservatives equally. Liberals are just as intolerant as conservatives. And for all of the equality, justice, free-speech & other basic civil rights which are supposed to be at the core of democracy, the Democratic party & it's supporters sure seem to revel in hypocrisy as of late.

This is the party labeling folks "un-American" for asking questions about a vague plan which would completely overhaul healthcare as we know it yet has no dedicated funding source & would affect the rest of us while keeping our politicians segregated & protected from the healthcare system of the average citizen.

This is the party that tries to pretend that "racism" against our multi-racial President is the driving force behind dissatisfaction with 2 fairly crappy proposals from our almost totally white Congress.

Most significantly, this is the party that ignores true racism based on political bent. To wit, it's ok for a white politician (Barbara Boxer) to be unbelievably condescending & blatantly racist toward a black man when he isn’t liberal enough. In fact, the media made Harry Alford out to be the jerk in the situation although Boxer was the jerk, no matter which party you belong to or how you feel about the climate change legislation. When it’s a conservative of any race acting insultingly & ignorantly toward a LIBERAL person of color, it’s a capital crime but when a minority isn’t liberal enough the democratic Party not only turns a blind eye toward real racism but even supports slander of the victim.

There is certainly a lot of jerk-syndrome going around today & it’s definitely afflicting liberals as much or more than conservatives in the summer of 2009.

myooz wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Sun, Aug 16 2009 12:45 PM

While I do not agree with the town hall "jerks" I understand their anger because most truly believe that President Obama's healthcare plan “untruths” will bankrupt the nation. What I do not understand is: Where was/is the righteous indignation or lynch mobs to confront politicians such as Arlen Specter who in fact are already responsible for bankrupting the country, morally and monetarily, by authorizing G.W.Bush's invasion of Iraq based on blatant lies.

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Sun, Aug 16 2009 1:43 PM

Isn't it amazing that I, PghGirl and myooz "understand the anger" of the town hall "jerks", but neither this paper nor the members of Congress nor the presdient, understands?

The mere fact that this paper refers to these people as "jerks" says volumes.  Perhaps it is not only the "boorish and the rude" who are "jerks" here.

PghGirl wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 8:29 AM

Or perhaps it's just that the boorish & rude have louder voices, as they tend to create our laws & speak to millions of Americans from the editorial pages of major domestic publications ;)

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 9:54 AM

pghgirl:

I've seen alot of "boorish and rude" on this site (including myself at times).  Would you like to speak out to that?  

In silence, is pain heard.

John Lease wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 10:03 AM

Reg, boors will be with us always.  

I'd agree though, toss the nutters out.  If you can't make your point without screaming, crying, yelling, cursing, it's not really a point, or at least not one worth hearing.

I do fault Obama for not taking the lead on this.  He's lived here all his life, he knows what a bunch of mulletheads a lot of people are.  A lot of people are never going to support him, no matter what.

There isn't a need to pacify the imbeciles, nor is there a need for moronic points of view.  Not all ideas are created equal, despite what 'birthers' believe.

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 11:00 AM

John:

It's hard to hear you through your liberal bias and name-calling.  You yell much too loudly.

PghGirl wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 11:59 AM

Ahh, another perfect example of liberal bias. Not all ideas are created equal & not all points of view deserve to be heard. I suppose only those deemed liberal enough need be heard.

John Lease wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 2:50 PM

Liberal bias?  I'm not the New York Times.

But not all ideas are created equal, nor are all people worth your time.  Let me show you an example if you need one.

People have been saying Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, so he is ineligible to be president.

If you find any credence in this, your are just too dumb to have a valuable opinion.

I could give you other examples, but this should be sufficient for anyone of reasonable intellect.  

And if it isn't, then 100 aren't going to get the point thru.

regis wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 2:50 PM

I don't know if jerks will have the last word, but they certainly have more words.

Ladyburg wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 6:04 PM

Must be that Reg was living on another planet when he writes that he can't remember uncivil behavior born of unthinking rage in reference to liberals.

If free speech is not about ranting, raving and shouting someone down for conseratives, why is that and other boorish behavior ok for the libs?

Don't you remember Bush being called "Hitler"?

Don't you remember Bush being called a "racist" and a hater

 of black people because of what happened in N.O.?

Don't you remember war protesters (you know those

 peace loving loons) that marched with a dummny with a

 George Bush face with a noose around his neck?

Don't you remember a movie that was deemed acceptable

 (freedom of speech, of couse) that was a story about the

  assasination of Bush?

Don't you remember the picture of Bush made to look like Hitler?

There were many questions asked at town-halls meetings that were not shouted out but of course, the left-leaning media would show the man who was "bellowing in range and stabbing the air with an accusing finger." Shocker!

Yeah Reg, you better beware of those seniors who are being labeled racist, being accused of belonging to white hate groups and least we not foget, THE MOB!!

Beware Reg! Obama will soon be using another of those scare tactis (you know, those SCARE tactics that the left are so fond of accusing the right of doing?). They might tell you that those white-haired right-wing (although some are left-wing) nuts that belong to the MOB might hunt down your family, tie cement shoes to their feet and dump them in the nearest river, if you attend a town-hall and support Obama's government controlled health-care (otherwise, known as "reform", wink, wink). BOO!

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Mon, Aug 17 2009 6:40 PM

Yes Regis - you do.

PghGirl wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Tue, Aug 18 2009 8:22 AM

“People have been saying Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, so he is ineligible to be president.

If you find any credence in this, your are just too dumb to have a valuable opinion.

I could give you other examples, but this should be sufficient for anyone of reasonable intellect.“

No, all ideas aren't created equal, nor all does everyone deserve to be heard by everyone else but nobody is fit to decide what is or isn't worthy. If you disagree, then you’re against the 1st Amendment & to say that’s lacking “reasonable intellect” would be an understatement.

For every talk-radio host or whoever questioning Obama’s birth location, there are 20 "journalists" in the popular media whining that opposition to this ridiculously superficial, vague, un-researched healthcare proposal is “racism” directed at our multi-racial President--  even though the crappy proposals were drafted by our almost totally white Congress.

I could give countless others but as you said, any intelligent person gets the gist from any one of the myriad examples. There’s absolutely nothing being done by conservatives that the liberals aren't equally guilty of doing. To pretend otherwise is to paint yourself as one of those lacking in “reasonable intellect”.

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Tue, Aug 18 2009 9:53 AM

Since I like the english language so much I looked up the meaning of "jerk"  (for preciseness).

Jerk:  A stupid or fatuous person.

Fatuous:  Stupid, asinine, inane  (Don't you just love that word?)

Yep, those meanings certainly fit this op-ed piece.

Reg, America hasn't grown mad - it's just grown fat-uous.

John Lease wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Tue, Aug 18 2009 1:51 PM

No, all ideas aren't created equal, nor all does everyone deserve to be heard by everyone else but nobody is fit to decide what is or isn't worthy. If you disagree, then you’re against the 1st Amendment & to say that’s lacking “reasonable intellect” would be an understatement.

For every talk-radio host or whoever questioning Obama’s birth location, there are 20 "journalists" in the popular media whining that opposition to this ridiculously superficial, vague, un-researched healthcare proposal is “racism” directed at our multi-racial President--  even though the crappy proposals were drafted by our almost totally white Congress.

I could give countless others but as you said, any intelligent person gets the gist from any one of the myriad examples. There’s absolutely nothing being done by conservatives that the liberals aren't equally guilty of doing. To pretend otherwise is to paint yourself as one of those lacking in “reasonable intellect”.

Nor all does?  Nobody is fit to decide what is and isn't worthy?

Sure, there's plenty of people who are smart enough to decide what is and isn't worthy. That's such a stupid straw man argument though, it fills me with suspicion that you, in fact, aren't worthy.

Nice dog picture though.

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Tue, Aug 18 2009 2:36 PM

Lease:

Who are you or what are you?

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Tue, Aug 18 2009 5:03 PM

Lease:

You said that you are not the New York Times.  Hell, you're not the Post Gazette.

myreply wrote re: Jerks have the last word
on Tue, Aug 18 2009 5:05 PM

And thank God the "sensible people of this great nation ARE putting country first".