Nothing imminent on Sanchez

There's only reaction after watching in amazement the strong emotions vehemently displayed on the previous thread:

HA HA HA

Dumpity dump dump,

dumpity dump dump,

Look at Nutting go,

dumpity dump dump,

dumpti dump dump,

Bob says Freddy must go!

Hostage

Now who is getting repetitive :)

I haven't had a huge problem with the trades that have been made to this point, but will the front office come to a point in which they realize that nobody is going to pay to see an unrecognizable team?

WOW, How many people have jumped off the bride already....LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL...I predict Freddy is not going anywhere...Management read the blog and changed there mind....NOT

wow 401 posts.

I'm not even going to try and catch up.

JAL,

Oh please. It is a commonly known fact here on the blog that the repetitive rule does not apply to corny ryhmes.

Geez.

;-)

Halliday to the Pirates?  Duke, Lincoln and Capps?  

This could change the tune.

Again....now that McLouth and Morgan are gone, and the PBC has officially punted, I don't have an issue if they trade Sanchez or anyone else for that matter provided they get a good return and that the trade is not made solely for the purposes of dumping salary which is what I suspect.....but that said it seems to me that if it is true that Neal is pushing hard to dump Freddy before the All Star Game, Neal is trying very hard to give Pirate fans a great big middle finger.

I mean most traditional baseball fans look forward to seeing their home town player in the mid summer classic and it seems like Neal is purposefully attempting to take that away from Pirate fans as payment for the abuse he has taken for all his other salary dumps.

FREDDY IS GETTING READY!

Hostage

There is no repetitive rule--I least I do not remeber putting one in the blog info :)

I still want the Pirates to win, starting tomorrow..

As Roseann Roseannadanna used to say: Never mind.

Hostage

Think we might have a best seller in Corny Rhymes of the Blog?

Now if could remember how to spell remember :)

IT'S A CULTURE OF WINNING!

JAL

You better not either for fear of accumulating additional groupies ;)

NuHo ever consider maybe Dejan jumped the gun a bit and his source did as well. Oh but it isn't like you to come up with an original thought. And by the way, who cares about the MLB All-Star game honestly?

All the people who "knew" this was going to happen will now fade away.As you leave ALL  the lifeboats ....please return life jackets as next time the women and children may need them.  ;-)

Demery,

Do you remember the nickname Bob Prince hung on your namesake?

Hey hows this for weird?

Joel Hanrahan just picked up his first win of the year an hour ago, and he's not even on the team.

Further complicating this, Nyjer Morgan scored the winning run as pinch runner for Elijah Dukes who is currently in the minors.

It was the completion of the Astros-Nationals game that was suspended 2 months ago in the bottom of the 11th inning tied 10-10.

Morgan had to pinch run for Dukes when play resumed tonight. Dukes had walked after 1 out before the game was suspended. Then Willingham singled Morgan to third, Bard hit a fielders choice but Miguel Tejada made a throwing error to allow Morgan to score the winning run.

Hanrahan was the pitcher of record.

Crazy!

Repost from the "more rational" chat thread:

Maz--I agree it is much better over here tonight, but, all due respect, the rest of your post indicates you didn't read mine because it addresses nothing I said.

And NuHo last night was arriving in a hornet's  nest without knowinging the context, which once I provided it to him he understood.

I was wondering if we could actually face the following situation:  Freddy gets traded prior to the All-Star game, he is replaced by JW, and JW is replaced prior to the All-Star game.  It would certainly put us on the map.

John K

Well, groupies are not faithful--one seemed to move me to Hostage :)

Honestly, Gang ... Looks to me like SF has a good reason to want Freddy ... They're only 7 games behind the Dodgers, AND have a winning record. BUT I look at their roster and the only two guys I see that I'd take for him are the pitchers Cain and Lincecum ... yeah, dream on and both are headed for the All-Star game.

That being said, I think if they want Freddy bad enough they will come forth with some top notch prospects ... yes, it might have to be A prospects. But then again, I figure if we got two A prospects from the Yankees for Hinske, surely we could get a nice AAA or AA prospect from the Giants, maybe two.

Glad to read this, and wow what a thread that previous one was, 401 crazied post about a trade involving Freddy. That last thread truely demonstrates why we are the asylum.

Arriba

I read a story today that said if freddy got traded he would still be on AS team and the Pirates would not another player.  Of course if someone pulls out die to injury a Pirate amy be picked if the trade happens.

Pig Legs:  Do you think there is any way the PBC can claim a win since Nyjer was on the Bucs at the time of the original game and Hanrahan is on the Bucs now.  Seems a little unfair the Bucs don't get anything out of it. ;-)

I still think it will happen. The judgement on the trade will be the return. Imn my opinion,( and remember I was recently called ignorant and told I didn't unerstand baseball on this blog ) the Pirates trade since NH have been:

Nady: Good

Bay: Bad ( and unnecessary)

McLouth: very Bad ( timing and return)

MorganL Good ( with hope)

so about .500. If you throw in the Torres/Sanchez deal as half a deal, he is about .450, or what the Pirates are playing. He needs to have a real good deal for Freddy ( and I wouldn't call anything I have heard rumored good), and a decent deal for Capps and Laroche.

If I had my way, resign Jack, pick up Freddy's option then trade him next year or this winter, trade Capps, trade Laroche if you can get a power hitter ( a lefty major league prospect not affiliate fodder) in return. Otherwise I'd pursue a hometown discount to stay with his little brother).

Finally, if Grabow is to be an A free agent.. LET HIM WALK!

But I'm ignorant

If Freddy gets shipped to SF the name I keep hearing is Jonathan Sanchez, whose is the left handed Charlie Morton, with a 95mph fastball. But also heard the Giants will not part with him now because he has to be moved to the rotation while Big Unit is on the D.L.

Well, time for fishing, to steal a line, we are all in this together, and have to stick there, thick or thin

Bucco Nation (40 States in the Union)

Still looking for inmates from the following:

Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Hawaii, Minnesota, North Dakota,

Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Wyoming

We do have 9 countries represented: Australia, Brazil, Canada, England, Germany, Ireland, Phillipines, Scotland and lest I forget, the good old USA

In the off season, we talked about blowing this team up, as some have posted, buys NH and FC time, but its funny, or sad, NH has a plan to sign kids cheap, and sorry if I missed posts earlier, but you agree to a deal with a blue chopper and Budmeister says no??  Two things, isn't that illegal and doesn't that show FC is in his pocket??

BigBob must be saying YEEEESSSSSS

NH is getting his kahunas cut out right now

I log in, & I think I get to do it...

Ants marching!

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Plenty of Hope wrote re: Nothing imminent on Sanchez

on Thu, Jul 9 2009 8:24 PM

I still want the Pirates to win, starting tomorrow..

POH,

Me too!  I have wanted that since opening day 1966, which is the first season I remember vividly.  

As a retired soldier, I don't believe in punting or taking "seasons off" which is what I think has happened in 2008 and 2009.  I find it hard to believe there was no way to improve a last place team during two consecutive off seasons.    

That perceived lack of effort and "commitment to winning" is what has me in such a foul mood when they trade good players away for players we may or may not see in future seasons.  

That being said, Let's Go Bucs!!!!!

JAL--thanks for ruining my fantasy. ;-)  So what uniform does Freddy wear in that case, I wonder.

Ah, if only we could all be as wise and "rational" as some, the world would be a much better place!  There would be singing and dancing, and lots and lots of rhyming.....

It has been pointed out on this blog that the Giants are "loaded" at DoubleA. Also, during Piratesfest, it was noted that there was a rumor that the Pirates would trade Adam to the Giants for Jonathan Sanchez. Could they still be interested in Sanchez, I hope not.

where there is smoke, there is fire, right?  so this isn't really smoke yet, right Dejan?

if the Pirates were allotted an additional all star (should Freddy be traded prior to the game) wouldn't that just give everyone another reason to gripe that "The Pirates traded another all start today!" down the road?

The one all star per team rule is a baseball absurdity.  Look at Ted Lilly of the Scrubs.  Last year the northsiders voted in plenty of all stars because there was interest.  This year, they voted in NOBODY, because as much interest isn't there.  Tell me, are more people in Chicago going to watch the all star game because Ted LIlly may get to pitch an inning?  NO.  It works for Pittsburgh where there isn't enough reason for us to vote in our own player, but having our player selected gives us a rooting interest in the game (remember Nate McLouth's outfield assist to save the game last year??)

I'm grouchy but my point is the at least one all star per team rule is lousy because in the end all it gives to the casual observer is a higher platform to complain on when Nate and Freddy get traded, to name the recent year All Stars.

Hey fellow lunatics.  Greetings from Madison, WI!  I've been a long-time lurker and infrequent poster here.

Just wanted to drop my two cents in, since my entire ride home today was spent listening to the local sports talk radio show where they were really pushing for the  Brew Crew to make a trade for Freddie.  He would be a good fit here.  They don't really need a guy with power (they have a good bit) they need someone who just makes contact, and is good in the field.  What I haven't heard though is if the Pirates are interested in anything the Brewers have to offer.

A sports talk show host being interested is a lot different than a GM being interested though.  Has there been any rumors regarding the Brewers?

Don't know what they would have to offer the Buccos in return though.  I'd be sad to see Sanchez leave Pittsburgh, but I've liked many of the trades that the FO has made lately, and see hope on the horizon.  I'm especially interested in seeing how Milledge does.

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Who really cares about whether you'll see these guys in the future or not?  The ones that are here are not going to win anything so what is the purpose of keeping them?  We have to catch lightning in a bottle like we did years ago in the Tony Pena deal.  

socal, it had something to do with a frog?

@demery,

ding, ding, ding.....congrats.  Good memories of the Gunner.

@ Rich - I'm not sure about any rumors linked to the Brewers since Solomon Torres trade.

Really, I think the Brewers could definitely appreciate Freddy. I'm sure that their system could accomodate a request from the Pirates for a decent return, but the media always says their guys are "untouchable" who is that shortstop there that is blocked by JJ?  And Gamel is considered untouchable too, right?  there team is stacked with players from their system, eventually they will deal, we could really use a future SS...

All of that said, I would absolutely loathe a trade of Freddy to the Crew.  For many reasons, starting with the Pirates futility against Milwaukee (soon to end!!!) and I wouldn't want Freddy to have to listen to Ryan Braun complain about everything under the sun or dome.

I can't believe they are thinking about trading Sanchez.  They shouldn't.  In fact they never should have made those other trades.  Look at the line up they could have had.

CF- McCLOUTH

2B- SANCHEZ

LF- BAY

C- DOUMIT

RF- NADY

1B- LaROCHE

3B- ANYBODY (Maybe a guy like Jose Bautista)

SS- WILSON

And the rotation:

LHP- MAHOLM

RHP- SNELL

LHP- DUKE

LHP- GORZELANNY

RHP- (Maybe a veteran guy like Matt Morris)

That right there is a title contending team!  Oh wait, that's right, that team was assebbled for the first half of last season and they were 20 GAMES OUT OF CONTENTION BY THE DEADLINE!!!!!  Stop acting like they traded away murderers row.  The front office is doing the only thing they can do and try to catch lightning in a bottle like Tampa, Colorado, and Florida did.  Is it going to work, who knows.  It's obviously worth a shot.

imminent as in the next 24-72 hours is one thing but the team's obviously has it on their radar to trade Sanchez soon. Why else remove signs and pictures in certain places within the business and baseball operations areas?

Sanchez being traded shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, he's not a 'young' player and is scheduled to make $8 million as a player or club option. The Pirates are losing money this year, ticket sales are down and MLB overall revenues don't look good for teams needing the revenue-sharing check.

There's little chance this team has Sanchez, Wilson, or LaRoche on August 1, 2009

@ SEC. 143

Great post.  I was about to flip out on your lineup there till I read the bottom.  Thank you for having a mind.  Everyone seems to think we've dismantled a championship team.  

They aren't stupid, they wouldn't trade Sanchez before the All Star game. Look for him to move within a couple of weeks of that, probably to the Rockies.

Scorus

No offense but 16 years of stupidity claims this team is more than qualified to trade Sanchez before the All-Star break.

Ants marched?

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The Giants are in desperate need of offense which could be good if the Pirates trade Sanchez to them. On the other hand, since they have a number of weak positions. they can really shop around for the best deal. I think they are more likely to make a deal near the trade deadline.

I live in the Bay area and don't get the impression they will give up anyone major to improve their offense unless it was really a stud or good package for them.

Freddy Sanchez is not worth $8 million.

Hey, DK, anything new on the Sanchez trade?  It is one o'clock---do you know where your correspondent is?

From the Seattle Times Blog... (Maybe we want to bring back the "Great" Chris Shelton...

In other news, the Mariners have called up Chris Shelton, who you saw on the opposite page taking grounders at third base. Shelton was moved from first base to third about two weeks into the Class AAA season just to get everybody playing time with the logjam over at first. Shelton said Tacoma manager Darren Brown told him not to put pressure on himself to learn the position, just to go out and have fun. He knows it's his bat the team is interested in and that this is just a temporary solution to an abundance of personnel playing the same position as him.

Shelton got off to a slow start in AAA, but then his bat picked up where it left off in spring training.

"I got sent down and was frustrated with that,'' he said. "And then, a couple of days into it, I was able to move on.''

The third base role has been a challenge. Shelton admitted he's had good days and bad and is simply looking to stay consistent -- on the good side, naturally.

"I wouldn't say I'm pretty comfortable, but I'm getting better,'' he said.

Shelton admitted he was disappointed when he didn't get called up right away once Adrian Beltre went down.

"I'd be lying if I said no,'' he said. "But if they wanted to call me up, they would, and here I am.''

The reason he wasn't called up right away was that the Mariners have no intention of letting him play third. He's here strictly to replace Mike Sweeney as a pinch-hitter and as a DH when the M's face a lefty starter. I asked manager Don Wakamatsu whether he'd gotten positive reports on Shelton's third base glove.

Trying to keep a straight face, Wakamatsu was brutally honest.

"Not good,'' he said. "It was the first thing I asked him. I said 'Now you're a Gold Glove, right?' and he said "Uh, I'm working on it.' No, I wouldn't consider him unless it's an emergency. His true position is first base.''