Pirates vs. Marlins, 7-3-09: Re-restart 8:05

Let's win this series.

Sweep, anyone?!

  IN NEAL WE TRUST!

early start tonight.

I'm hoping for Morton to get some run support, he's been pitching well but getting no Offense in return.

DK

Hey, we like the blank lineups, gives us time to predict :)

Why the early start? Anyone?

DK,

Greetings to you from the other side of the country.

My question from the previous thread...

Any indication that the Bucs get a last, best offer opportunity from Sano's people given the relationship with Gayo?

GO Ryan ..get well, FAST.

******

My favorite stadium name ... reminds me of too many SNL laughs!!

It's nice to see Doumit getting back onto a field and seeing action. It's going to be real interesting to see how this all plays out when he returns to the lineup.

IF I WERE JR

Amac cf

F Sanchez 2b

Ad Laroche 1b

G Jones rf

An Laroche3b

R Diaz c

B Moss Lf

J wilson SS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

@Joey Bats- CANDY GRAM!

Joey

You mean that a land shark never came to your door with a candygram?

sometimes the blank lineup is better than the real one.

85 degrees...nice.

@G-Man wrote re: Morning links: McCutchen aims high

on Jul 3, 2009 1:41 PM

mad -

>>We are looking for a 4th player but you have to be at least 6'0 to play golf with me at 6'7, Uglyken at 6'0 and G-Man at what 6'3 or 4?<<

Actually, I'm 6'6". We were both sitting down when we were talking. That's why I only looked 6'0" to you. :-)

_________________

I thought you were 6'3 or 6'4 not 6'0 that is Uglyken.  I may have shrunk an inch during my old age so I may be 6'6 as well.

@darylethepiratefan wrote re: Pirates vs. Marlins, 7-3-09: Doumit 0 for 2 in GCL rehab debut

on Jul 3, 2009 2:33 PM

IF I WERE JR

________

Nice line-up but if you were JR that line-up isn't weak enough.  You need Young or Valquez in it.

DK - no shots intended on comments regarding a blank lineup, you know us, we're just having fun, the simplest things humor us, you know...

When you put the lineup in, please remember MOSS!

Hey DK,

Lots of <a href="http://www.hyperlinkcode.com">rumors on a trade</a> involving Sanchez, Capps, and John Grabow.  Hear anything?  I'd like to give Huntington the benefit of the doubt, but at this point he's making trades like a 15 year old on a PS3.  Does he really intend on trading the entire MLB club and then just call up all of Indianapolis?

Here's my guess...

1.AMac CF

2.Freddy2B

3.BMoss LF

4.Ad Laroche 1B

5 Jones RF

6.An Laroche 3B

7.Jarimillo C

8. Jack SS

9 Morton P

I understand that you tall guys are handicapped, being so far away from the ball and whatnot, but if anyone needs a fourth, (albeit only 6'0"), shout out!

From an earlier post

@AW - re the draft pocket "in the top 5 in all of baseball?"

Am not sure what NH meant by that, he noted "over the past two years", may not mean anything, but may also give him some wiggle room

DK,

Hmmmm...thank you, sir.  I'll read more into your response than what was most likely intended simply because it'll make me feel better about the situation.

Stay cool....

Since yesterday is history, and tomorrow a mystery, then take care of the Marlins and do it tonight. Let's overcome the disappointment you have with the trades, the games you almost won but didn't, the lack of effectiveness in a few starting pitchers, the state of flux existing in who is playing and who is sitting, and numerous other obstacles that seem to exist. Let's get focused so that when the All-star break arrives, we are headed in a positive direction. This all starts tonight - "Hook them Marlins!" - THE BUCS START HERE!!

PS: Hopefully I successfully followed the directions in creating

     my avatar; if not, I'll keep on trying.

Bizrow,

You may be right but I don't sense that NH cares much about wiggle room.  I think he does what he thinks is right and just goes with it.  I sense that much confidence and belief in his own actions.

INWT.....

No line ups means JR is STILL throwing at the dartboard.;-)

coach

Takes a while to show up and make sure you hit save after uploading.  

I feel like Mikey and Life cereal after seeing the line up.I truly believe this is the BEST line up we can have.

 Hey,Maz likes it!!

Theres a Billy Mays commercial on right now, weird.

And yes, Mr Moss is in the lineup, tonight he goes deep

@socaldonn - re NH

Hope you are right, like we discussed the other day, and I'm not starting anything, he sure set the bar high for success regarding draft and signings in LA

30 days till non-waiver traded deadline, wonder what happens next?

If we get too far ahead we can always take out Moss and put Young in RF.Then we can see what"butterfingers" or "hot potato" actually mean, plus give the Marlins a chance to catch up.LOL

Biz--me neither, but my main point was that he said they were separate. IF they have the extra for the LA pocket, then it's coming from somewhere, and I don't think it is Seven Springs.  ;-)

I know this is a little late, but was it mentioned anywhere here that DL was at PNC during the Cubs series?  I think he had on a "nose and glasses" but he was there.

So Wilson moves to #2 and Sanchez back to #3

No episode of The Fielding Misadventures of DY tonight

Interesting lineup I guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out.  It would definately be nice to win this series especially having to go to Philly and Houston after this.

Good afternoon, fellow lunatics!

Has anyone been keeping a "tally" of the "other third" games (i.e. games that could go either way, but winning teams win)? I have not, but my sense is that we've been losing more of them lately (like yesterday).

Any thoughts?

EXTRA  EXTRA 25 CENTS TO ALL PIRATE GAMES NEXT HOMESTAND AND ALL THE HOT DOGS AND DRINKS FURNISHED BY NEAL HUNTINGTON FOR THE  DESTROY OF THE BUCS THIS YEAR AND NEXT 10 YEARS...............  First pitch honors to Nutting each night of home stand..........My comment is they should pay us to attend the games...................See you at the ballpark for a Quarter............            

Buccos own the fish

Biz,

The next 30 days should be quite interesting indeed but I think predictable in the sense that NH will deal if he feels he's getting more or better in return.   I don't foresee a dump just for the sake of payroll reduction.  Maybe I'm wrong but I feel the fire sale days are over.  

Neal, don't forsake me!!!!  

@geowes - other third

I know we talk about that sometimes, I think JAL might be keeping track

Hey charmsdaddy,

Tell me how you REALLY feel...

Maybe the early start is due to the holiday tomorrow?

geowes and Biz

I have them at 16-21 in those games, though a few are open to interpretation.

Good afternoon inmates near and far. Can Morton go more than 5 innings? Can he last 5 innings in that weather?  DK, chance of a storm? Come on it's South Florida, can't get past rush hour without getting wet...

Most stadiums are named for corporate sponsors, not SNL skits. What does the "Landshark" company do?  Brewers lead the Cubs 1-0 in the 5th..

And now a question or two for the blog.

On ESPN radio today they discussed if every team still deserves an All Star rep. Of course  the Pirates were oe of the teams in question. They decided because there has to be one player from each team, Adam LaRochewas most deserving. What is the inmates take on a player from every team, and is Adam the likely candidate from the Bucs?

Yoyum

pay no attention to Charmsdaddy--single A poster--no avatar and it shows

Any truth to the rumor that because of his "fielding prowess" Young for his own safety will wear a hard hat in the outfield,Stick um on his fingers and a seine net (instead of a glove!

radio wave:

Zach Duke gets my vote.

Sanchez would seem to be the national pick, though.

@ radiowave

LandShark is a beer company with links to Jimmy Buffet (who may or may not have/be developing an ownership interest in the Fish; I seem to recall he was part owner of one of the independent Northern League teams).

Arriba,

Regarding your question from the previous thread, everything I've read indicates that if the Bucs were to sign Sano, it would be an additional expenditure.  They'd be going outside of their planned budget to sign him, rather than taking away from their draft budget or anything.

Maz-

You've got it all wrong, MLB is putting in a new "outfield fly rule," just for Delwyn. Anything in his general area will be deemed an out, regardless of the actual outcome.

,-)

Radio,

 I still like the rule that every team has to have 1 representative. Otherwise the AL team would pretty much be Yanks and BoSOX.  For the Pirates rep. Adam has played well, but I think you'd have to give the nod to Freddy.  He's rebounded well from last year with all of the injuries and think about it how rough was it yesterday listening to at least 2  double plays that Vasquez couldn't turn. When Freddy's not in the lineup the team suffers from it.

Even though I think Freddie should be able to hit the same from the #2 and #3 spot ---I like this lineup.   Jack had a nice bunt yesterday.

DK: I visited the press box on Wednesday as part of the tour---which seat is yours?

What a great line up! and I think every player is in the right position too...this could be interesting...and JR needs to put this line up out there about 3-6 games in a row if he can. Get them used to to each other.

All Star Answer (my two sents): I don't think every team should be represented. Only exception if you are playing in a stadium that might not produce an all star. With that said, I would think McCutchen is most deserving along with Duke. I would be even ok with Sanchez.

@roxtar

You make the cut at 6'0.

If we can get G-Man back in the burgh then we are on.

Yotum-I also heard there is a DMZ area.Delwyn Mishandles Z'all

Pirates chances to win dim with each gray man post--yesterday the winning scored moments after the first gray man post appeared, last game the Pirates won, not a single gray man post during the game.  Bad karma.

@ CHARMSDADDY

              Still with the no Avatar?  they are not hard and they are interchangable.  I even had Daffy Duck paint a mustache on a special one that i have posted just for the weekend.

Morton and Volstad are very close past two games--both have given up 5 runs but Volstad went 6 both games and Morton 5 both games.

Hello everyone.

I'm glad to hear Ryan's out on the field and will be even happier when it's here in Pittsburgh.  

It looks like a solid lineup today...here's to hoping that we can keep our spotless record against the Fish this year in tact.  I can dream, right?

All-Stars...First, I like the idea that every team gets a representative.  Or like someone already mentioned, it would be all BoSox/Yanks for the AL.    I believe every team has at least 1 player that deserves the recognition.  I think we have 2...Zach and Freddy, though I can see where some would think Adam has a chance.  

Anyway, I'll be ready for first pitch...looking forward to it in fact. :-)

Oh...and from the previous thread...a single Twitter posting is a "tweet" I believe, not a "twit".     ;-)

I think everyone knew this was coming..Strasburg to pitch in Japan?

www.washingtonpost.com/.../AR2009070201804.html

                                 Time for a little of

                             THE PEPPER SHAKER

DMac, you are correct about a single twitter posting.  

Of Jones specifically, Russell added, "He could be one of those guys who just hasn't been given the opportunity. We think he looks really good, and we're looking forward to seeing more."

---  I think Russell has been reading my posts!  :-)

And I agree with the earlier post  that JR needs to stick with this lineup -when freddie is in there- for a good number of consecutive games (hey how about an entire week).   Freddie is a late scratch

WSB

That is Boras--Boras is Khan--wants to rule the world :)

In fact, it time to send Boras into space and let Captain Kirk deal with him in 2 to 3 thousand years.

I just hope Freddy's back isn't something that's more serious than they're leading onto.

 Nice to see JR giving Jones a boost in confidence.

WhyStan - I also found this

www.mlbtraderumors.com/.../could-strasburg-move-to-japan-avoid-draft.html

I wouldn't put it past Boras to do it.

FSF--Thanks, but I know that is what has been said.  My point is it has to come from somewhere (and it's not coming from the layoffs in the front office).  I'm not saying what's been said by the FO isn't factually correct, just that I don't know if in the end it is the truth (remember Absence of Malice?)  I don't even care if they take some money from the draft budget to sign Sano just because they said they wouldn't.  Most of that money is earmarked for high school pitchers anyway.  Nobody is a sure thing, right?

OK--who be the first to accuse FC of doing a Tonya Harding on Sanchez to keep him from triggering the contact option :)

Thanks Radio Wave!  

Anyone else think the sudden starts after none in forever for Vazquez is NH trying to get ANY value for him.

JAL -LOL!   I'll be the first to accuse the FO of being cheap and forcing the players to take cabs to the park instead of renting them stretch limos!!

JJ--I've been meaning to ask you--when did Morton's become known for pepper?  ;-)

JRay03--I mentioned that possibility yesterday, so I'm with you on Vazquez.

JAl--I wonder what Freddy's cousin thinks? ;-)

Goomba :

Scott Boras is the biggest piece of garbage and should be kicked out of MLB totally. Last year was pretty bad, costing Alvarez a year of development over 250,000 or whatever it was. But this is just insane. Do it Bud ban him for life.

I think Vazques makes about $2m per year.  That contract makes him tough to trade  (meaning nobody else wants it for a backup infielder)

Since me

Oh dear --more gray men

Click-my avatar-instructions for adding one-makes posts easier to follow-good karma

DK, the shots aren't too bad.

Are you 'criticizing' the stadium or that baseball is played in South Florida?

Is Pearce this year's Bullington?  In other words, bring him up but never use him?   I'm not complaining, just thought of it with Dejan's picture of him above.

DK

Ok, you are not Ansel Adams but the photos are not bad :)

Good Afternoon, Gang! HOME AGAIN!

Here less than an hour now ... Hard to explain, but after that whirlwind tour of meeting so many of you ... seems like a brave new world here.

I THINK I'm off the weekend, too. Not on the schedule anyway, according to a co-worker ... so we take in the Pirates vs. Marlins.

Yes, Garrett, rake unto your hearts' content! And Ryan, hurry on back now ... Can you imagine the difference it would make to have TWO guys in the lineup who are driving in runs CONSISTENTLY?

BTW, it's a little HOT down here! We can't believe, after a week in the Burgh, what the heat's like down here ... I think we experienced heat again the first time, when we pulled into Memphis last night.

Later!

But, I do believe they market it to institutions.

I f Strasburg doesn't sign with Washington...I wonder what that does to super evaluator"wakerider's" brilliant plan to lose as many games as possible to insure a great pick in the next draft?____________________________________

haha I'm good.  I know people don't like that fact that I'm right all the time. My player evaluations are all correct, and I know which players are not the future and need to be dealt or released..______________________________

haha, I just know baseball well, that's all. ___________

Although every win now hinders their draft pick.  Ideally they will lose enough to get a top pick, hopefully that will happen.  Maybe after the deadline we can make a charge at Nats.__________________

Let's keep Young in RF for a couple months._______

Wakerider certainly has a plan.Lose a ton of games and get that top pick,but if the top pick gets around the draft...or plays overseas then we lose a whole season and many other bad things.(self respect,fan base etc)

All this crap about Boras having his $50 million draft pick go to Japan is just further proof that Scott Boras is a cancer on the game of baseball. MLB should ban that man for life. The idea of asking 5X what the HIGH slot for a #1 pick in this economy is nothing short of criminal. If all the owners would get together and just refuse to deal with this psycho, the game would be much better for it, IMHO

"OK--who be the first to accuse FC of doing a Tonya Harding on Sanchez to keep him from triggering the contact option :)"

JAL,  The water is warm here i will dive in!!!!!

JRAY- I agree totally the worst one I heard of was Boras petitioning Selig to expand the World Series to 9 games so  that his clients have the opportunity to fully showcase their abilities on a much higher level. What a jagoff!

JAL- It'd never work sending Boras into space because he'd smuggle a PDA or Blackberry and cause intergalactic havoc.

I'm looking forward to getting Ryan back. If Ryan is close to ready and Jones keeps hitting shots, and Ad La can keep up his assault, suddenly we have a fairly powerful lineup. It would be nice to see Adam get some protection in the lineup and out of the #4 hole, where I don't really think he is all that comfortable. All this hinges on Adam NOT being traded, of course.

DK, please tell Moss that we enjoy your photos. Besides, I don't think they are bad ... though the field does look slanted. LOL  LaRoche, Salazar, and Pearce could've turned around and smiled when you said "cheese."  : )

Off the baseball theme for a second, I'm kinda bummed that no mention was made of my Alfred E Newman avatar. Doesn't anyone remember him?

Maz : Here's what will happen, Straus will go back in and we'll finish with the 3rd worst record, missing both the best hitting and pitching prospect supposedly ever by one pick. They we will draft a catcher i'm sure since we appear to need 10 of them in the minors.

Goomba

Very good  LOL

tedkin

I know Alfred well

Macs

Way to jump--now how do get Jray to recognize the value of an avatar?

Interesting little piece of info I found on mlbtraderumors.com

Kiley McDaniel of Baseball Prospectus sent out a tweet about the Domenican Signings.

twitter.com/.../2458086512

This could get real interesting.

JAL Thank You I try LOL

Goomba

It already is interesting and looks to get more interesting.

I want to apologize to all for my gray man posting that screwed the game for us yesterday.

Sorry I missed connecting, Mr Baywatch, some day I have to get the courage to get out from the under of the bed

How many miles did you log?

Getting new faces in here all the time, hope no one minds this but...

Bucco Nation (40 States in the Union)

Still looking for inmates from the following:

Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Hawaii, Minnesota, North Dakota,

Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Wyoming

Much thanks to thanks to coreybower for knocking Tennessee off the list

We do have 9 countries represented: Australia, Brazil, Canada, England, Germany, Ireland, Phillipines, Scotland and lest I forget, the good old USA, and close to her birthday, no less

Mark-

Now you've got one, the karma is sure to shift. ;-)

@Bizrow - "Sorry I missed connecting, Mr Baywatch, some day I have to get the courage to get out from the under of the bed. How many miles did you log?"

Haven't checked the odometer, Biz, but I can tell you for sure, it was roughly 21 hours each way. I'd say close to 3,000 miles.

Honestly, a tiring trip but worth it ... We saw six games (the entire Royals and Cubs series) ... I actually started to tire a little on Sunday, but we had our best night Monday with a victory and sitting with blogger friends again ... and we had some of the best seats in the house on Wednesday for our anniversary ... thanks Plenty!

Here's a photo of us in our seats on Wednesday, with a little sign language of the memorable date!

community.post-gazette.com/.../PiratesGame6-012.jpg.aspx

Isn't Mrs. Bay just TOO cute?

Markln

No problem  :)  Welcome back

@JRAY

             I WILL agree with you that Scott Boras is a piece of GARBAGE

if you will agree with me that having an Avatar is important  Deal?

They are easy to find easy to load if you need help just ask ok?

Can anyone help me with DK's twitter account? I'm new to twitter and can't find him on there.

macs....what do i do?

JRay

Click on my avatar for instructions and remember it will appear instantly--has to be a picture on your computer

JRay

twitter.com/Dejan_Kovacevic

DK's pictures are fine -- the problem is that Dolphins Stadium -- er, Landshark Stadium -- is positively, absolutely the worst baseball venue in America.  My son and I learned this when we took in a weekend series there a month ago.  No wonder people in Fort Lauderdale and Miami don't go out to support the Marlins.

Baywatch

glad to see you made it home safely. hope you can make this trip again in the near future

Bay

Great that you had a good time and made it back safely

DK...Thanks again for the photos.  They're pretty good.  Tell Brandon we expect a wave the next time, like Nate did. ;-)

@Bay...Very glad to hear you got home safely.  Sorry it's a furnace outside, though.  :-)

Late getting on and just caught up with all the posts. First, my two cents on the all star stuff. I really think that the 1 representative from each club is a great idea. It gives the guys from smaller clubs, like Nate last year, a chance to show what they can do. I also think that Freddy should be our candidate.

Now, onto Boras. He is a scumbag, always has been and always will be. Unless Bud grows a pair and stops him. And i doubt it will be any different next year when he has Bryce Harper as a client.

@ JRAY,  just Google search avatars and download one to your desktop

I have found Avatar pimp.com to be a great site for Avatars

After that just click on your name for instructions and go from there

we will be here if needed

What about the idea where fans would vote for the one representative from each team, leaving the managers to select the rest.  That way you get fan involvement and the managers are less handicapped as they try to win the all important game.

Check out ESPN's Ultimate Standings.  The Succos are ranked 94/122 major sports teams.  Plus, in the paper magazine, they are ranked 122/122 for commitment to winning.  Got to love it.  Let's see if they can get to 122 next year and unseat the Clippers!!!

sports.espn.go.com/.../story

Does anyone think we should put DON'T PITCH TO HANLEY IN THE GAMEPLAN TONIGHT?

Bay

Glad you had a good trip, now that you worked so hard pulling this off do the right thing the next couple of weeks.....................NOTHING

Good evening asylum, good thing I checked in because I thought game time was 7, 6:10 is umm different. Glad to see Moss and Jones in the OF again, also glad to hear Sanchez is not in trade talks. Also great to see Doumit playing games again, maybe just maybe NH will let him play in the Philly series. Lets hope Charlie gets a good outing tonight. Lets go Bucs!

"Unless Bud grows a pair and stops him"

@ BUC fan ct

Or you could say if Commissioner Barney Fyfe puts 2 bullets in his gun:)

Welcome back Bay! Glad to hear you had a great trip.

@JRAY  GREAT JOB

Excellent Avatar

macs

"Or you could say if Commissioner Barney Fyfe puts 2 bullets in his gun:)"

Hahahaha I like it!

I'm on the road and just found some wi-fi.  I'm in Erie, PA visiting my family.  Just a few observations: There is very little Pirate paraphernalia in the stores which carry tons of Steelers and Penguins (and Browns/Indians).  Very sad.  Also, I sat in on my dad's coffee clutch this morning.  The guys know a lot about the major league team but not about the farm... so they're frustrated.  I tried to give them pointers on what to watch for.

Keep the Sano tidbits coming.  I'm hanging on every word!

thanks macs

do i get my straight jacket now??

As far as Boras, why would you pick him as an agent if you want to PLAY in the majors? I can hear the conversation now.

Scott .. Sorry Steve, Washington offered a mere 30 million guarenteed and that is just unacceptable.

Steve: but dude, its more money than i'll ever spend in 3 lifetimes

Scott: we can't be bullied around by mlb, if they don't give us 50 mill, were going to Japan.

Steve: whats this we stuff, you moving with me? What makes you think the will pay that much?

Scott: no i have to be here to ruin the lives...er... represent others. But i hear the rice is great, even if they don't pay that much, we'll make you a citizen and after you serve in the Japanese army for 2 years you can be a free agent.

Steve: Army...what the....yo lets just take to 30 million, i don't want to get shot at

Scott:  trust me kid, (scott tuns away to hide his face) i'm doing whats in YOUR best interest

macs : thanks

hope you all enjoy my last post...off to watch the game!!

@ BAY

Welcome Home to what i am sure is probably a heat index in the low 100's

Here in Central Mississippi the heat index is only 102 today:)

We need to invite DK down here to get used to some real heat

Hi, everyone.  Enjoy your holiday.  I've been mostly lurking - needed a break.  But I wanted to comment just now on two things:

1)  Bay, happy to hear you made that long trip home w/o too much difficulty.  Great time spent w/ you and Mrs. Bay.  Say hello to her for me.

2)  Salazar!  And how appropriate that he is sighted at BP.  Good luck to you, Jeff, on your time up here.  I hope you get a good chance.

Game time.  Off to the TV.  Happy July 4th, a little early.

"I'm getting excited about our lineup, to be honest with you, and that has a lot to do with Garrett," Russell said. "Once we get Doumit back, and he's on his way, I think it's going to be interesting."

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Poor John Russell. He's like Charlie Brown always naively believing Lucy isn't going to pick up the football right before he tries to kick it.

I have no doubt in the next few weeks, Huntington will trade away most of the few remaining quality major league players Russell has leaving him to muddle through the rest of the season with a AAA-caliber line up.

@JRay03...Welcome!  You haven't been issued your straight jacket yet?  OMG!  I'll get someone right on it!  Meds should be along too...I wonder if Nurse Cratchett left early..hmm.   ;-)

JRay

Welcome to the asylum!

@ JRAY

              Great Post

Honestly now @ age 42 i would never pick Boras as my agent, my concience  

would bother me too much

If i were 22 it would be a much harder decision, but i hope i would do the right thing.

UGH I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT WHEN THEY DELAY A GAME BECAUSE OF THE "THREAT OF RAIN"!!!

@ GGG

Hey brother hows your dad?  give him my best!

Concerning the disconnect with the Bucs and your folks i totally get it

My dad went to game 7 of the 60 series, he just visited PNC for the first time 8 days ago!

                                FIST BUMP

@macs:

I'm 21 and there's not a chance I'd hire Boras. I think you'd make a similar decision, too. I think most kids with a good head on their shoulder would do the same.

JAL- I just passed 5,000 posts.Where am I in the order? Clean up,5th 6th?BTW where is Pants?Anybody seen Pants?

IF HE SEES A"WHO"YOU KNOW IT'S HORTON,BUT IF IT'S A K YOU IT IS MORTON

Maz

Good question

I will do my best to get an accounting of who the top 10 are in few days.  You should be pretty high.

there once was a young lad named jones

this AM there's ringing on all his phones

Irates was his first fan

he said I know he can

crush the ball because he is bad to the bones

Marty

Better to delay it than start and play 1/3 of an inning and stop it like last night

@Macs - Dad looks good.  I'll tell him you said hey.

I'll try to check in later... I hope I find a TV for the game!

"Im 21 and there's not a chance I'd hire Boras. I think you'd make a similar decision, too. I think most kids with a good head on their shoulder would do the same."

@ YOTUM

thats refreshing to hear, you are right i would have turned him away @ 22

@Capn - "Bay, happy to hear you made that long trip home w/o too much difficulty.  Great time spent w/ you and Mrs. Bay.  Say hello to her for me."

Capn, your newfound scorecard sidekick is in the living room right now ... making out her lineup! She told me to tell you so!

Not sure if you saw this one yet ... I think I've got one around here somewhere of you and Mrs. Bay keeping score ... btw, anyone else who'd like to see a dozen or so photos I made at and around the park on my trip, feel free to click on my profile, go to "view all files"/Bayburgh Trip and click through them ...

Well, Capn, I don't have that one in my profile area yet, in the meantime here's one of you, pen and scorecard in hand, with the  G-Man at last Saturday's game ... Best photo I took while I was there.

community.post-gazette.com/.../PiratesGame2-014.jpg.aspx

JAL

"Better to delay it than start and play 1/3 of an inning and stop it like last night"

True but still.....

I hate rain delays....especially when there is no rain falling.   >: (

buc fan in ct

I hate that FSN always plays Spotlight 1990, 1991, and 1992 Pirates!!

re:Boras

Last time I checked Boras has never put a gun to any player's saying they had to agree with him.  If a player really wants to play then they will sign.  

I am eighteen, and I believe I have good head on my shoulders and I would sign for him.  You cannot argue with the results.  With the few exceptions, the are hundreds of cases where he got a player the money they wanted.  It appears this is the opinion of a large portion of players.

maz

Your avatar changes seem have caught up with you :)

Finally time to playball!

Bay-Dump your cache and check my avie.

Maz

See the avatar is back

Did a quick look at things and think you are cleanup

I have 10,960

BK has 5,772

Dmac has 5507

You have just over 5000

JJ has 4,985

Bay has 4,799

Now we need BF Grad to get an avatar

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All right!  Time to play ball!

Alternate jersey tops with red 4th of July caps.  

AMac leads off and takes ball 1.  Misses again, 2-0.  In there for strike 1...2-1 count.  Low, 3-1. High strike and the count goes full, 3-2.  Drive to LF...and the catch is mde by Coghlan at the wall...dammit!  1 away.

Jack promptly grounds to SS, throw to 1st.  2 away.

Moss takes low, ball 1.  Low again, 2-0. WOOOOHOOOO!  Moss just sent one into the RF seats for a solo shot!  

Adam takes a strike, 0-1.  Misses, 1-1.  OOps...grounded back to the mound, throw to 1st side retired.

Bucs get 1, Fish coming to bat.  

@Biz- Nice call on Moss going deep!!!

LET'S GO BUCS!!!!

JAL & Maz: I have about 4.5. I don't think that even qualifies me as a batboy.

Maz, I don't get what you mean, dump my cache and check your avi???

WWWYP-

Boras gets results, true. But I wouldn't need to negotiate. Slot money is more than enough for an unproven entity.

Hopefully Moss's dinger is a sgn of things to come!

Ok, who called the Moss HR. I know someone did.

radio wave -

>>What is the inmates take on a player from every team, and is Adam the likely candidate from the Bucs?<<

Strictly my opinion: I don't take the All-Star Game seriously as a true baseball game. It's exhibition, despite what Bud Selig would have us believe. Thus, I'm okay with including a player from every team. That adds fan appeal for those in some cities who might not otherwise watch the game. I have more of an objection to fans voting for the starting lineup. I have that objection in every sport, not just baseball.

Freddy or Zach are the only logical Pirates who should be considered.

Coghlan takes strike 1.  Misses low, 1-1.  Misses again, 2-1.  Grounded to 2nd, Vazquez to Adam.  1 away.

Bonifacio takes outside, 1-0.  Catches the outside corner, 1-1.  Grounded to Vazquez, throw to Adam.  2 away.

Ramirez grounds the first one foul, 0-1.  Catches the outside corner, 0-2.  Just misses, 1-2.  Grounded to Andy, throw to Adam.  That ends the inning.

We go to the 2nd, Pirates 1, Fish Nada.  :-)

Come on Buccos...let's get a streak going before the break!!!!!  Nice start in the 1st.....keep it going......

Solo shot from Moss in top half, 1-2-3 from Charlie in bottom great start!

Re. Strasburg & Boras. Boras is a total sleaze, but I don't think he should be kicked out of the MLB. PA knew what he was getting into with Boras & he lost a year off his career for $200,000. Talk about missing the big picture.

I told my son a year or two ago that if he picked up 30 MPH on his fastball, he'd never be allowed to go with Boras as his agent.

I called the Moss dinger, but I've been doing it for a week, you put a monkey in front of a piano long enough, he'll play Bethoven   : }

Ramon Vazquez baby!!! WHOOOO!!!!!

Jones leads off and takes a strike, 0-1.  Rolled to 2nd, throw to 1st.  1 away.  

Andy takes in the dirt, 1-0.  Misses again, 2-0. Catches the outside corner, 2-1.  High and outside, 3-1.  And it's ball 4...Andy draws the walk.

Vazquez hits the first pitch to him the same spot as Moss for a 2-run shot!  WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!

Wow Jones can fly down the line.......i enjoy watching guys try to  beat out a "routine" groundball......shows they enjoy playing the game.....wow Ramon Vazquez with a homer.....keep it going!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nyjmo walked and stoled second in his debut for Worshington.

Too bad about Moss and the HR.  Probably assures he will be on the bench tomorrow.  ;-)  Go Bucs!

@JAL - re posts

How many does NuHo have?  During daylight, he seems to have 100 a day ; }

RAZOR RAMON!

Yotum

"Boras gets results, true. But I wouldn't need to negotiate. Slot money is more than enough for an unproven entity."

I'm not trying to take a hit at your character but you would be the first player to do this.  It is very easy to say that you would take slot but when you are told that you can make more.  Also I would have to believe that no top pick considers themself unproven.

Jaramillo takes a strike, 0-1  Misses inside, 1-1.  Outside, 2-1.  Fouled away, 2-2.  Grounded back to the mound, throw to 1st.  2 away.

Charlie takes a strike, 0-1.  Grounded to 3rd, Bonifacio to Cantu.  Side retired.

But they add 2 more...now 3-0.  

OMG, Vazquez hit one too. This is awesome. keep it up Bucs.

Nyjmo scored.

Nate is leading off for Atlanta and Nyjmo is leading off for the Nats against each other. That has to be odd.

NEAL RULES!

Arriba

We probably won't see him again until at least Monday now.

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Demery

I like the razor ramon mention!

mad, Uken, Arriba and Roxtar -

>>If we can get G-Man back in the burgh then we are on.<<

It's good to have five golfers interested since someone always seems to be unavailable when the day rolls around.

I'm not sure I'll be up to Pittsburgh again this year; I have already made two trips in 2009. Maybe next spring. But if I change my mind, I'll let you know.

Cantu takes a called strike, 0-1.  Fly bal lto RF...Moss gets there and makes the catch.  1 away.

Hermida takes outside, 1-0.  Inside, 2-0.  Grounded foul, 2-1.  Fouled away, 2-2.  Inside, and the count goes full, 3-2.  Fly ball to CF...AMac gets there and makes the catch.  2 away.

Uggla takes a called strike, 0-1.  Swings and misses, 0-2.  Fouled away.  And he goes down swinging!  That retires the side.

We head to the 3rd, 3-0 Pirates.  

Ok, Brandon, there are a lot of inmates that support you, you broke the ice, its been a while, I'm a licensed lunatic, can I ask for another one??

Well asylum I am out for the night, hope the bucs keep it up!! Goooo Bucs!!!!

Wow, Mortons got some zip on his fastball. I didnt notice that in his past couple starts.

WWWYP-

You're probably right. I don't know, I've just always understood that it doesn't take a whole lot to support me and my family. Maybe it's just modern society that's passed me by (despite being a member of the more "fast-paced, money-driven" society all my life). Meh.

Also, Sanchez was hardly a premier prospect, but he took slot. But enough on that debate, we'll agree to disagree. I shouldn't have tried to generalize based on my own perceptions.

I wonder how all those stupid draft grades from the media will be affected when the Nats don't sign their top pick? That's their fault for not gauging Boras' demands correctly up front. Last year I think the initial Alvarez demand was around 8M, and they came back to 6+. This year, initial was 20M. How much could Boras reasonably come down and not have it affect his future negotiations?

Wow, i just realized that A-Mac is 5-5 in stolen base attempts. Very nice. Lets let him run a little more often. We seemed to be slow in letting him run when he first came up.

I love these alternate jerseys but don't they have a horrible record on Fridays.

maz -

This is your BEST AVATAR EVER!  Capn thinks so, too.

Have a Hap Cap.  __/_H_\

AMac takes a called strike, 0-1.  Takes again, 0-2.  Fouled away.  Grounded back up the middle.  Uggla gets to it behind the bag, but with AMac's speed, he's safe with an INF single.  

Jack takes a strike on the outside corner, 0-1.  AMac goes and the throw does not get him.  He's 5-5 on SB's.  Count to Jack is 0-2.  Fouled away.  

The sky looks ugly and it's thundering a lot.

Jack fouls it away again.  Jack reaches out and bounces it to SS.  Ramirez comes in and gets to it, but it crawls up his arm and lands on the INF grass.  E-6.  

RUnners on the corner, no one out.

Moss takes ball 1.  Throw to 1st.  Fouled away, 1-1.  Swings and misses, 1-2.  Grounded to 2nd and Uggla can't pick it cleanly.  They JUST get Jack at 2nd for the force.  Moss is safe at 1st.  AMac scores.  1 away.

And NOW it's raining.  

Adam fouls the first pitch off, 0-1.  Misses outside, 1-1.  throw to 1st.  WAY outside to Adam.  Moss goes and he's called out, BUT he was SAFE!  Beat the tag.  2-2 count to Adam.  Misses outside, 3-2.  And he swings and misses for strike 3.

Bucs add 1 more...4-0 now.

Re - Boras, and I've asked this a few time, why aren't draft pick caps or slotting part of the basic agreement?  This is ridiculous, +4 million for a 16 yr old, asking 50 million for a guy out of college, for the life of me, I don't understand why MLB Players Union fights for stuff like this

This will kill baseball in the long run, you watch, PBC will get competetive and there will be a strike, but IMO, for the good of this game, things have to change

Yotum

I do not think it has to do with modern society.  I think throughout history people attempt to be as successful as possible.  If everyone settle for no more than they needed we would all be living in caves and eating berries.

RE: Bud banning Boras-

There has not been an independent Commissioner to care for "the best interest of BASEBALL" for decades!  Bud is an agent of the owners (who make more money if players get less).  I can't imagine him TRYING to ban an agent, without a major court case. In sports that have negotiated a cap/floor salary system, players are guaranteed a certain proportion of revenue. NEITHER owners nor the players have been attracted to that system thus far, though I think many fans would prefer it.

Bucs should have put the dagger in the fish that inning.