Tabata: Arrested wife lied about pregnancy, past (Updated)

Weird,weird,weird weird.........I don't know how else to characterize it.This may end up being a movie.

Weird...I wasn't done

I applauded Ryan Doumit for being stand-up in his comments regarding what he had to do to be a better ballplayer.

My hat is off to Jose Tabata right now. Any questions about what kind of character he has have been answered by his response to the media regarding the situation with his wife.

He could have ducked, cast aspersions or made excuses.

He didn't.

Absolutely first class.

As far as the Mrs, it is sad to see someone so troubled. I hope once the legal issues are resolved she gets the help she needs.

Jose

And they call us insane.Sheesh

You know,we choose to be in here.What about Dejan? I used to think he was normal....AB normal(Young Frankenstein)

Maz

What happened to your avatar?  It seems to have disappeared.

I wonder what happens to her 4 teenage kids?

Reposted from the other thread, because my blood continues to boil...

I know this is ground others covered earlier, but Perrotto is an absolute disgrace. That "story" that he wrote, which I guess is supposed to be a column or something, is completely absurd. He's harping on the age gap because Tabata will make a lot of money in his life? Because if you're going to make a lot of dough, there's no need to marry an older person?  What are the implications here? That people should marry based on economic class? That if you aren't going to make a lot of money, maybe you should just marry an old person?  Bottom line: Tabata got bamboozled. Now he's being crucified by Perrotto. Not only needlessly, but inartfully.  I shudder to think that this is what passes for journalism, even when covering a team without a lot of success to report.  I, for one, will never read his garbage. I'm sorry, but I have no use for someone who could write that drivel.  

JAL -I don't know.I never noticed till now

How does one completely falsify a pregnancy?

What a world out there, another reason I'm glad I'm in here...

Maz

Weird, maybe JH will have an idea when he comes in

Calling Dr Hadar.Emergency.I have lost face.

Ok, let me be logical here... I was twenty years old once. I was 43 years old once, I am now years old. First I would never have married a 43 year old woman when I was twenty. I would have dated her maybe a month if nobody knew and she was fabulous in the bedroom. Today, even if my wife let me :---) I would not date a 43 year old woman unless she was in some fantastic shape and have on freaking heck of a personality.... ALL I KNOW IS... If the pirates knew he was married to a 43 year old woman. WHY WOULD WE OFFER A INSANE MAN SO MUCH MONEY? It just never ends for this team and its management decisions! Age 20 and he is married to a 43 year old woman. INSANE!! David

Uh-oh...Maz is back to being shadowman...look out!

BAB...I agree with your take on that piece.

It looks like Jose wasn't told the whole truth by Mrs. T...what a rotten thing to do to your spouse.  This is just a rotten situation and my heart goes out to Jose for the pain he is obviously feeling.  

BAB--drivel is what it is.  He should be embarrassed by it.  

Wow, who woulda thunkit?

Mrs. Tabata makes Anna Benson seem like Nun.

Why can't the Pirates have players with normal wives?

;-)

I believe Tabata got married after the Pirates traded for him.

And the Pirates haven't offered and are not paying him 'so much money'.  He's probably making the league minimum or some type of minor league salary...because he is a minor leaguer right now.  And please, Tabata isn't insane.  He's young.  There is only so much that the team can know about a player's private life

(the Pirates didn't know that Al Martin had two wives)

There are and were plenty of 'insane' ballplayers that got lots of money from every team.

When it comes to 'insanity' -why would teams pay guys like Bonds, Giambi, Sosa and all the rest when they knew the players were shooting themselves up with steroids?

Let's give Tabata and the FO a break.

If she lied about being pregnant, she could also have lied about many things - including her age.

It was not until after my 1st marriage eneded that I found out just how many people had known the score from the start - everyone except for me had issues with my ex. I chose not to see them.

All of us - I do mean ALL of us, make mistakes with relationships. Some mistakes are small and some are really big. That does not mean that the person making them needs to be "embarassed" by them or "insane."

"Where you stand depends on where you sit" - that is a good line to keep in mind here as it seems that is much easier to be critical of Tabata without knowing anything more about the circumstances beyond what we have read here.

Jose

@PFSince 60

I don't know, I don't blame the kid, a new country, plenty of dazzle, maybe naieve as all get out, but its not his fault, IMO.

People do things that normal people would never even in a million years think about.  Your wife tells you she is pregnant, why on this earth would anyone doubt that?

I would say though, that if I was the PBC, I would assign a "big brother" to him to help him get settled in things.

Not his fault at all, IMO, an evil person suckered him into something.

We've all been duped at least once, maybe not to this extent though

Didn't I read that Jose was 5'10'?  Roberto was that size and chiseled, I met him once outside Forbes Field, you used to be able to wait outside the gate and walk up with them to Gustine's

Pirate Fan

You should get an avatar-just click on my name for instructions if yoiu don't how to add one.

I stick with my 20 yr old male marrying a 43 year old woman philosophy; Its wierd!!  BUt I am an idiot. I mixed up Tabata with Alverez. Thus any punishment I receive for my written words and involving management I have to accept!

Go Pirates got my $370 season baseball channel to yell at ya for next 5 months!! David

Wow. - Interesting article.

If Tabata truly was duped and not the least bit complicit in this situation, then I really feel bad for the kid. - What a terribly difficult situation for a young man to handle.

I say if, simply because in today's world, you just never know. - For example, when Nancy Kerrigan was attacked by a pipe wielding madman in Detroit in 1994, initially who would have suspected that Tonya Harding and her husband Jeff Gilooly were behind the attack?

I like the "what would Clemente do" reference. - Sounds like that would be an excellent PBC Blog nickname for someone. - Better yet, they should market little black and gold rubber bracelets with the letters "WWCD" on them.

I hope Tabata is completely innocent in all of this and if so, he may become my favorite Pirate. If innocent, I'd like to see him overcome all this and achieve much success in his career.

Thundercrack--you too need an avatar--have you read the posts of other about how much easier avatars make it for us to navigate the threads.  Some people do not even read the shadow posts as look for familiar avatars.

How is marrying an older person insane?

@ bizrow: The number of psychological case studies of women falsifying pregnancies are legion - there are psychological conditions where the drive to have a child is so strong, a woman will fake a pregnancy and go as far as to steal another woman's child.

Recently in this area a woman feigned pregnancy, then lured a pregnant neighbo to an isolated area, attacked her and attempted to perform a C-section on the woman in order to "have" a baby. The attacker's husband was absolutely convinced she was pregnant.

Keep in mind that this woman apparently has not been living with Tabata until very recently - if they are not around each other, how would he know she wasn't pregnant?

Jose

Hard to understand how he can recognize and hit a curveball in a split second but can't recognize his wife was not pregnant when given a period of months to do so?

Hmmmm....-Ted Kluszewski. 'Big Klu.' First base.

He played for Cincinnati. - Traded for Dee Fondee, 1957.

I dont know what to make of this poor kid, but I still look forward to seeing him in our lineup in a year or so.

Avatar Nazi, er, I mean JAL.... (Just kidding).

I would like to add that I prefer people keep one avatar and stick with it.

When people change avatars frequently, it gets me all confused and I lose track of them.

Like Wilver for instance. - I had no idea that was him.

;-)

Tabata got married in January 2008 and was traded to the Pirates six months later in July 2008.

Jose---I was saying Perrotto should be embarassed by his story, not Jose should be embarassed.  

Hostage

That is good point too.  Wednesday we had over 350 posts on one thread and the avatars made it much easier to go back and read posts that were being referred to.  

Sorry, HuHo.  I had to change it once Pitt made it to the Elite 8.  Just for a little.

Next time I will alert you.  ;-)

Is there a rule that you have to have an avitar or you are not allowed to post?  Isn't having a name good enough?!  I mean come on, we're not even using our real names. The only avitar that I recognize and can immediatly put a name to is NutHo.  That's it.  I just want to read people's comments.  

If people don't want to read my posts because I don't have one, then so be it.

JosePagan---

I'm with you.  I feel really bad for the very young and obviously very naive Mr. Tabata.  I recall being pretty dumb when I was 20 when it came to relationships.  Fortunately, I didn't even think of marrying any of them.  Those crucifying Jose Tabata (JOHN PERROTTO!) ought to give the young man a break and realize that he was duped and is surely hurting in ten different ways today.

@ Arriba: Gotcha! I apologize for reading too fast!

Someone slipped crystal meth into my elavil again. I hate it when that happens...

Jose

@Jose P - re -women falsifying pregnancies

Thats why I never leave from under the bed except for meals and other necessities.

You look at the stuff going on out there and just have to shake your head/avatar.

I've most definitely lived a sheltered life, I've been lucky...

IMO, this is simply a case of a whacko predator and the victim.  (Hope I didn't go over the line there....)  The NuHo line...

Fair enough Wilver.

I recognized that it was for a good reason.

;-)

Geez---you guys and all your rules!  If I'd have known I couldn't change,  I'd have been more selective in what I chose.

JAL--does that mean you are going to be Wilbur for good, now?  Of course, NuHo cannot change his in any event.

;-)

Thundercrack

There is no rule, but since many posters have said they make the thread more colorful and and much easier to navigate and since the are free, why not add one.

As for the name--ever heard that picture is worth 1000 words?  It is the avatar that stands out, not the name--then the name is associated with avatar.

If you go through 350 posts looking for a name it will take a lot longer than if you can look for an avatar.

Wilver,

I would not be me without my avatar.

;-)

To go along with the lady who faked a pregnancy, I knew a girl at PSU who went the entire 9 months not realizing she was pregnant. She never developed the belly and she delivered a perfectly healthy child. She found out she was pregnant when she went to the hospital with very bad stomach cramps and they told her she was in labor.

No problem, Jose P.  I will try to be more precise.  Just wanted to make it clear we were on the same side on Jose T.

Bizrow,

"the Nuho line".

Good one.

Don't worry, DK will let you know when you cross the Nuho Line.

;-)

Arriba

It not a rule--Hostage just said what he preferred.  Changes are fine with me--I can keep up with them.  When I see 25 shadow men I can't tell who is who.  

JAL, re avatars, I try to read them all

@NuHo - re - the line

Its the crack of thunder and the lightening from the skies that scares me..

; }

JAL--I was just joking.

Bizrow

Some read them all, some do not read any, and some read certain posters and not others.  Tis a mixed bag of inmates :)

Arriba

I know,. I saw the smiley face :)

Ariba

On a basketball note--KY fired Gillispie today--think they will go after Dixon?

JAL,

John Smiley retired a long time ago.

Jose handled this professionally.

For all our sakes, may he take our his frustration and anger in the batters box and make it up to the Bigs soon!  

Hostage << I would like to add that I prefer people keep one avatar and stick with it.>>

I tend to agree with you, and I think that you have one of the best avatars; however, ugly is a changeling and there are so many “ugly” avatars to play off of.

;-)

JAL--I do, but I don't think he's going anywhere right now.  It may sound naive, but I think he is loyal to Nordenberg for taking a chance on him.  And it's not like they aren't paying him now.

Wow....what a weird case.

I feel terribly bad for Jose, who has just had his life pretty much ripped out from underneath of him. I imagine with the fraud and robbing history of his wife, that we can assume that she married him with the intent of stealing his money. As demented as this may sound, perhaps he is lucky things ended this soon...at least he won't have her as a crazy distraction to deal with. The poor guy was duped, plain and simple. Love is a crazy and mysterious thing...and it can make any of us do things we would normally never do. It's sad that Jose thought he had found someone to spend his life with...only to have that all taken away with the uttering of a few sentences on Tuesday. God that must have been one incredibly awkward conversation when they broke the news.

My heart goes out to the family of the baby, who will now likely be deported I imagine, if they are indeed illegals (which obviously they are, or they wouldn't have given her the baby to begin with!).

Hopefully Jose can get past this and move on with his life.

Hostage

He did but his face is still with us :)

ants may march to the pregame thread if you desire

Hmmm.. just wrote a long comment, but I think it never posted, like I got logged out between beginning it and when I went to submit. Oh well, I'll recap,...

@BAB - I didn't take Perottos story so bad. There's nothing wrong with an age difference in a relationship, but regardless of who's older, one has to question what's going on when the gap is that HUGE, especially with him being so young. And furthermore throw in that he's on the doorstep of making millions.

Typically you see older guys with younger girls because, let's face it, guys mature slower! But there's nothing wrong going the other way either. My wife happens to be 4 years older then I am.

We talk of "double standards", but I don't think that's the case in a situation like this. People generally don't think it's quite right when the age gap is that huge, especially considering one is a teenager. A 42YO man marries a 19YO woman/girl and he'd be labeled a Sugar Daddy, cradle robber, etc. She'd be labeled a gold digger, etc. People in general don't find a situation like that perfectly acceptable. I'm 40, my friends are 40+/-, if any of them started talking about marrying a 19YO I'd raise my eyebrows. You reverse it, and you've got a 42YO woman marrying a 19YO teenager, and you have to ask the same question(s) - why? Can it happen - sure! But you still have to ask, ESPECIALLY when the 19YO teenager is about to become a millionaire, is it really love, or is there more to it?

I think we just need to all chill out and ask ourselves...

WWCD?!?  That's what I'll be doing from here on out...

Ken,

Is that the bad guy from Clint Eastwood westerns?

I don't see Dixon leaving either.

Hostage

Tuco

Tuco = The ugly

Hostage, I refer you to the fact that the kid was a Yankee and if you recall...

Mike Kekich, Fritz Peterson swap lives and wives..

espn.go.com/.../moments.html

comes from that wonderful organization.

'nuff said about that.

PiratesFan--

It's interesting you consider your thinking "logical".  Maybe you and others think--logically--that it's crazy for any man or woman of any age to consider being with someone significantly older or younger than them.  The thing about love is, it's not really a thinking process, a LOGICAL process, if you will. Last I experienced, love was an EMOTION, not something I did an equation for and found that if I went to a banquet one night, and was at the bar at just the right moment to dirty a martini to right a wrong drink, that I would meet my future husband.  My uncle who is in his 60s is engaged to a woman in her 40s, only a few years older than me, as a matter of fact.  Sure, some eyebrows were raised, but this is the best relationship he has ever been in. Now she's in pretty good shape, but had some health problems. Did he go in search of a more "perfect" younger woman?  Nope.  He's had knee problems and other issues that come with "old age".  Did that make her break it off?  Nope. Because they LOVE each other. And for the record, he is beginning treatment for cancer very soon.  Did she run? Nope, they are still on track to get married in the fall.  

I think Jose Tabata's statement is graceful and emotional.  Truth be told, reading his statement brought tears too my eyes because it is clear that he really did love her, and was excited to be a father for the first time.  The emotional rawness is pretty clear, or is that illogical?

And to question his sanity, or the decision of the Pirates to "pay that much money to an INSANE man"?  Ridiculous. Should I not get a raise because my boyfriend is 7 years younger than me?  And should the Pirates not have paid Kris Benson so much money because married a stripper? Or was that ok because one would assume she would only steal his fortune in stacks of $1 bills?

Pirata13 -

Well said, as you did the other day. I hope The Man appreciates you as much as you deserve. Srsly.

Hap Cap 2U     __/_H_\

Aw, thanks, G-Man, he does.  And that really is how it all started, me dirtying his martini because the bartender messed it up.  He's the best, too. He really is.  :)

I don't which is funnier. A guy who was able to be fooled by his wife for 9 months that she is pregnant. Or the fact that the Pirates still manage to instill some kind of false hope in so many fans judging by the fact that people still participate in such huge numbers on this blog.

On a serious note, i know of people being fooled by a fat girl stuffing her belly further to simulate a pregnancy. But wouldn't a husband have seen her stomach at some point in the last 3 months? How the hell can the guy be so stupid to think that she is really pregnant?

That lady is locooo.  

g'night all, I am out. Have a great weekend.

Watch out for karma, saneman.

Considering karma can be good too, I sure as hell am looking forward to it Pirata13.

Have a beer in honor of Mrs Tabatsh** crazy.

Picture if you will. a teenager in a foreign land, unable to speak the local  language, in a totally strange unfamiliar environment. Picture a woman showing this young lad some affection, perhaps his first taste of a male/female relationship How many of us would refuse that were we in the same situation? Picutre the same older woman coming to the youger man claiming to be pregnant and demanding marriage. It's not too hard to see why and how this could have happened. I don't think I was anywhere near mature enough at the age of 19 or 20 to deal with that, and I didn't have the language and environmental things going on that Jose did. It's not hard to believe that he was duped, but it's far to easy to put blame on him, too easy and way too unfair.

That being said, John Perotto is a sleaze of the first degree for his article. I hope he loses his job for it. He has already lost any shred of credibility he might have had. This kind of mudslinging has no place in sports reporting.

@ Pirata,

You mention your uncle and his fiance, but they are 60's and 40's. Though the age difference is big, their respective ages make it a HUGE difference from a woman who's 42 and a 19 year old teenager. Those are two totally different can of worms.

And as for the beau being 7 years younger, congrats, I guess. But that's not really a huge difference or a big deal, unless you happen to be 20 :) 7 < 23. When you were graduating college (aged), he was about out of high school. When Mrs. Tabata was graduating college (age), Tabata wasn't even born!

I hope for his sake that Tabata's "contact with the jailed Pereira" includes serving her with anullment papers.

Let's not forget how local writers treated The Great One when he was brand-new and didn't speak much English.

WWCD indeed !

I've been having computer issues today, so I'm late in chiming in here...Pirata stated that MUCH better than I ever could.  I've come to see age as just a number...but that's just me, maybe.

Tedkin also makes a good point, and it makes Tabata neither a knucklehead, or anything else Perrotto called him...it makes him human...I'm not even going to use the "young" card because I think someone in an environement that's new to them and doesn't know anyone would respond to kindness and sympathies shown.  Being older just makes one more sceptical, but not any less susceptible, IMO.  

What the Pirates are paying him is completely immaterial.  And what were they to say anyway, since he was married pre-trade? No, we don't want him because of his wife?  Please.  At least he's in an environment now...in Pirate City...where he's got a lot of support and I love that this organization hasn't wavered in that backing.

Done now.

pirata, tedkin, and dmac - very well said. i wish I could have articulated my feelings as well as you all did. I really feel for young Jose. Signed by the Yankees, if memory serves(and it often doesn't) wasn't he one of the victims of the bonus kickback scam among agents and FO people. After all this when a woman, I won't call her a lady, comes along offering affection she could have told him she was from Mars and he probably would have accepted it.

My total disdain for MOST of the media comes despite having a mother who worked for the local newspaper and a brother who was a newspaper editor in Cal. for over 25 years. This was further reinforced by watching the UConn press coverage on ESPN and seeing Jim Calhoun (who I don't particularly like), after repeatedly stating he didn't want to comment further on the recruiting debacle that recently surfaced, answer questions for the nest 15-20 minutes about guess what? The recruiting debacle. "Nuff said.

"Let's not forget how local writers treated The Great One when he was brand-new and didn't speak much English. "

Heh, heh. For a second, I thought you were referring to Mario, then a split second later, I guess you were referring to Clemente.

The press coverage of Clemente had something to do with Clemente "not knowing his place" during a racist time in our history. Tabata is not being bashed for being a bad person. But seriously, if a lady doesn't look nine months preggers suddenly gives him a baby, you gotta wonder about this guy's gullibility.

Yeah, that would be Clemente, and the local writers made fun of him, ridiculed him, and directly led to him not saying much to reporters. I don't recall it being racially motivated at the time, but I could be mistaken.

"Tabata is not being bashed for being a bad person" So Perrotto calling him a knucklehead is not bashing? Sorry, but there is no excuse for a supposedly well-informed reporter to write that article in that manner.IMHO.

Tabata would appear to be extremely gullible, which is not all that rare for someone his age. I just hope he can get all this behind him and have a great career as a Bucco.

BTW, much was made of Mario's refusal to put on the Penguin sweater when he was drafted. That all seemed to vanish after his first shift against the Bruins.

I hope Tabata can prove himself to be 1/10 as good as Mario, albeit in different sports,  for he will be a star indeed.

Tedkin, Perroto was bashing Tabata for being knucklehead as per your own quote. How does that contradict with my statement that he wasnt being bashed for being a bad person.

I personally am bashing Tabata for being a very foolish person, at the very least. Let us not excuse age for getting fooled by his wife pretending to be pregnant for that long. It's his wife. He gets to see her body. He's gotta be a moron to believe that story by his wife. A foolishness only matched by David Littlefield trading for the 12M pitcher who couldn't throw better than the two gimmicks we picked up from India.

Kragbax--I agree that things can be different when the 2 people in question are the ages of my uncle and his fiance. But my point in general--because for some people it will always turn heads no matter what ages--is that while most people may not understand it, the 2 people in question may really be soulmates and that is all they know. My uncle recently asked why he & his lady couldn't have met years ago--keeping him from a nasty divorce and subsequent bad relationship. Aside from the fact that years ago she would have been a child, it's all fate and timing.  Many of us have gone through a lot of crap, and learned and grown to be the people capable of having a relationship with the one they are supposed to be with. I made a lot of stupid mistakes myself, I dated guys significantly younger than me (like way younger than The Man), but we are good people and we had fun.  It didn't pan out then, but a different time and place, who knows?

I am just tired of people lambasting him for being with someone he clearly cared about. Surely he has learned a huge lesson, but the bashing is not cool. And people--um, saneman--want to rip him for the whole fake pregnancy thing. Look, con men and con women are very good at what they do.  Believe it or not, there are ways to fake it, especially if they didn't see each other often--say, he was in Venezuela and she was in Florida or Puerto Rico.  No one knows the circumstances, so leave the poor kid alone. Just remember that people will go to extremes to make themselves and others believe what they say. Someone posed the hypothetical on this blog the other day that she wanted a baby, packed on the pounds and started the facade. Totally possible. Look, I have had more than one friend, who has been asked when she was due because of the weight she put on, and she wasn't pregnant. And one girl is built like me and the other is not. So seriously, it is totally possible that even if they saw each other here and there, she totally could have pulled off a pregnant look.

I just think that more people can be duped than they realize, and even though we'd all like to think it can't happen to us, I'll be the first to admit I've been suckered in by someone I was close to.