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Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum

By Dejan Kovacevic | 11:31 a.m. Monday

LAS VEGAS -- Everyone is just beginning to set up, mostly media. The lobby has a couple scouts, not much more.

One thing to bear in mind for those of you intent on tracking this closely: There is a three-hour time difference between here and Pittsburgh, so the time here is 8:31 a.m., and the only meeting anyone has going right now is between their mouths and some coffee. Much of the developments coming out of here, one would expect, will be at night on the East Coast.

Will post updates here, as they come up ...

UPDATE 12:21 p.m.: OK, here is one little thing to start the day: The Marlins are looking for a catcher, and they still like Ronny Paulino. They like him all the more because he will make close to the minimum next season. Paulino, by the way, has been praised big-time by Rene Gayo in the past couple of weeks for tearing it up in the Dominican. ... Thing is, the teams that have approached the Pirates about Paulino just want them to give him up for nothing, because he spent half of 2008 in the minors. The Pirates, obviously, would like to get something and are not ruling out he could be Ryan Doumit's backup.

12:43 p.m.: Another little thing: The Pirates have signed pitcher Brian Slocum to a minor league contract. In 30 appearances for Class AAA Buffalo, including 11 starts. he went 3-7 with a 4.85 ERA.

1:45 p.m.: The Pirates remain a player for free agent Mark Loretta, a source just said, despite an upgraded offer this morning from Arizona. More on this later.

2:35 p.m.: Check elsewhere on the blog for Jack Wilson updates. That's where I will keep all the stuff about him, hopefully preventing this file from cluttering up.

2:38 p.m.: Missed this while in the lobby -- which is only a two-mile walk away from the work room -- but Al Oliver failed to get into the Hall on the Veterans Committee ballot.

2:40 p.m.: While I type this, Greg Maddux is formally announcing his retirement about 75 feet in front of me. He mostly is talking about old teammates, the glory days in Atlanta. What was most striking: "I expect to perform at a very high level, and I don't feel I can do that anymore." Maddux's lowest level was better than most guys' best.

2:45 p.m.: Almost forgot: Salomon Torres was in the lobby, too. He came over to shake hands while I was talking to the shortstop. Looked happy, healthy in his old age.

3:26 p.m.: The Pirates are not interested in Kevin Millar, the example I gave this morning as a right-handed power bat available in free agency.

3:32 p.m.: A source who deals with Japanese baseball said the Pirates are not pursuing any of the three veteran pitchers from that country who are free agents. No Kuwata for you.

5:52 p.m.: One name I have heard not at all today, which kind of surprises me: Freddy Sanchez.

6:13 p.m.: Just an advisory: The media session with Neal Huntington is at 7 p.m. your time. After that, I will make a separate post of it, then take a break. Any further updates will stay on this thread to avoid confusion.

8 p.m.: I call your attention to the new Huntington thread above for excerpts from his media session. Not much news in there, other than this: Brandon Moss is doing fine after a checkup in Pittsburgh and should get through spring training in a protective mode. ... Phil Dumatrait remains "a little behind" and will need to start throwing soon, or the Pirates will consider him only for bullpen duty. ... A corner utility infielder is a need for the Pirates. ... Other stuff is up there in the quotes.


Posted Dec 08 2008, 11:31 AM by Dejan Kovacevic
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JermaineAllensworthFan69 wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:42 AM

I'll be refreshing every 5 minutes!

Bizrow wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:50 AM

@ JLind Pants, the Boardwalk isn't there anymore, they are building some $$8 Billion city center or some such thing, one of the things hurting the casino owners what with the market and borrowing and all that stuff.

DK should try the buffet at the Bellagio, we think its one of the best ones there.  But what do we know?  Free drinks, most anythining would taste good....  :}

If we trade Laroche, where do we get any power at all??

lethalshine wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:51 AM

What do all the media do during the begining of the Winter Meetings. Hang out together or are they all sneaking around the hallways trying to sneak up on a conversation so they can be first with some news?

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:12 PM

DK,

We'll be up with you!  I am thinking of it as if the Bucs are starting a 3 game series on the west coast and the game doesn't start until 1005pm eastern.  Peace of cake.

Have a great day!

jbrindger wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:14 PM

Dejan,

Do you look forward to seeing anyone in particular at the Winter Meetings that follow other teams or work for any of the other sports news services like ESPN or CNNSI?

LarryZ wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:32 PM

I think many Bucco fans are a little nuts For instance, many want to get rid of a bonafide battihng champion (Freddie Sanchez) and a catcher who hit a solid .310 in his rookie seaons (Paulino). Sure Ronnie has issues with giving a full effort, and Freddie has plate discipline issues, but these can be remedied with a little coaching. Why are Pirates followers comlaing about losing 17 years in a row but in the same breath want to get rid of whatever few decent hitters we DO have?  It doesn't make sense. Paulino hit .306 with a .550 slugging percentage in AAA last season.  I think this is more reflective of Pirates coaching and the inability to motivate players to the fullest potential.

WTM wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:35 PM

According to Baseball America, the Pirates have signed RHP Brian Slocum as a minor league free agent.  He has very brief MLB experience, but he looks mainly like AAA depth.  Stats are here:

www.thebaseballcube.com/.../Brian-Slocum.shtml

LarryZ wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:48 PM

And hey, the great Jose Offerman is on Ronny's team too!  I thought he retired awhile ago....

NuttingHostage wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:01 PM

"The Pirates have signed pitcher Brian Slocum to a minor league contract. In 30 appearances for Class AAA Buffalo, including 11 starts. he went 3-7 with a 4.85 ERA."

Hot diggity!!!

One small step for Brian Slocum, one giant leap toward a championship caliber Nutting Pirate Baseball Club.

HAHAHAHA.

leadoff wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:01 PM

@Larry--

Who said they wanted to get rid of Freddy?

As I posted on the morning thread, Perotto from the Times said the Pirates have him on the block at the Vegas Meetings, not the fans!

Cave Bonifield wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:02 PM

Opie

Keep those MiLFA signings coming.  

BillyKidd wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:05 PM

NH--Welcome Back...I see that the deer did not get their guns to shoot back.

Cave Bonifield wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:07 PM

Nutting Hostage

At least it wasn't Heathcliff.

leadoff wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:08 PM

I think we are going "get rid of happy"!!

You still have to field a team in 2009, at lot of people the reports have the Pirates getting are not any better than what we already have in the system, all they do is make the system larger, but by no means better, you still have to have some ball players with experience in your starting lineup if you expect to win, EXPECT TO WIN, VERY INTERESTING, can't possibly expect to win without any veterans. There is no way I am trading Freddy for a middle of the road minor league player or players, or Adam LaRoach for anything but a major league starter.

JHadar wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:08 PM

You know every year every club signs a bunch of so-so players to minor league contracts and in every forum somebody has to ridicule it because they have some other agenda.  Yawn.

WTM wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:09 PM

We do all understand, don't we, that the Pirates have to have a pitching staff at Indianapolis and, like every other team in MLB, they're not all going to be hot prospects?

NuttingHostage wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:09 PM

Thanks Billy.

No, the deer were fine.

Mother Nature was in a beaotchy mood though. - It was 5 degrees F with 8 inches of snow on the ground on Saturday morning when I left the truck. - The difference in weather at higher elevations is incredible.

JHadar wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:09 PM

NH -- how'd the hunting go?

SirLochsby wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:13 PM

Was I the only one who saw the lede and thought, "Oh crap.  Heathcliff Slocum?  Really?!??  Is that the best we can do?  Here we go again on the retread route...  I thought he was retired...  Oh well..."

NuttingHostage wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:14 PM

Cave - Great point. - Heathcliff, the most successful Slocum ever.

JHadar - Fun, but no deer yet. - I was holding out for a buck last week and saw one but could not verify the number of points which is a requirement in PA. - Going back out later this week and will take a doe or two should the opportunity present itself. - Thanks for asking.

irate fan wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:20 PM

@SirLochsby - <Was I the only one who saw the lede and thought, "Oh crap.  Heathcliff Slocum?>

No, I thought the same thing. My reaction was the same as yours also. Is that the best we can do?

BillyKidd wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:22 PM

@JH--Your cold..

How are you feeling? Did Mrs.H catch your cold like you thought?

Plenty of Hope wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:24 PM

When are we going to sign some ERAs under 3? Can we target UNDER 3?

Srsly.

NH - I thought of you often last week as we wrote hunting story after hunting story. I get carcass photo submissions in here like crazy. Your buck is out there, sir.

Have hope. Plenty of Hope.

NuttingHostage wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:31 PM

POH,

I am glad you think of me when you see photos of deer carcasses.

;-)

Oh, I haven't given up hope. - Last year I took a 7 pt at 3:00 PM on the second to last day of the season.

WTM wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:32 PM

Guys with ERAs under 3.00 aren't available as AAA roster filler.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:36 PM

Re: Slocum

When are we going to stop signing Cleveland's leftovers?

jbrindger wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:39 PM

Anyone hear any word on the Rule 5 draft and if the NH is going to make a play. I would assume he is but who might that person be?

jbrindger wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:43 PM

If we do make a trade with the Tigers and end up with a glut of outfielders do we turn around and make a trade to say the Angels for Brandon Wood or Oakland for Bobby Crosby.

Another thought I had was revisiting the trade with the Rays for Reid Brignac. I love Moss but I could see him getting dealt.  Maybe I am wrong on that, but  Matt Joyce seems like he has more of an upside than Moss from just quickly looking over his numbers.

uglyken wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:46 PM

Good afternoon inmates…

I see we have a pretty complete cast of characters here today (JAL still out of town).

Sir & irate

When I read the headline to the new thread I thought exactly the same thing.

PoH <<ERAs under 3>>

I'd be happy to see someone under 4.00

leadoff wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:46 PM

@BF80- When are we going to stop signing Cleveland's leftovers?  Neal hasn't branched out much, he still thinks all the talent is in the AL Central.

I think the Pirates want to get rid of Jack no matter what, If they pay his salary or part of it and get one or two minor league players that are not any better than what we have in the system already, that is a player dump, not a salary dump.

Doesn't make sense to me.

JHadar wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:49 PM

BK -- Cold is still here and Mrs. H has it.  Mine is getting better, no fever but still have the cough so am staying home and not affecting anyone.  Called in today and told 'em I'd come in anything broke.  So far, so good.  Freezing drizzle this afternoon on the prairie as a prelude to a predicted 7-in, but predictions for these types of storms are seldom correct.

NH -- Is there a penalty if you miscount the points, or some minimum number of points that can be harvested?

JJP313 wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:52 PM

I don't think Slocum's numbers are all that bad.  The guy really struggled as a starter and did decent job as a reliever.  His strike out numbers and contact rate are good.  HIgh walk rate through.  As a right he's been really effective against left handers.   Probably has some control issue but the numbers say he probably has some pretty good stuff. Quality arms have clearly been something Huntingdon is looking for.

jbrindger wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:54 PM

If the Pirates are going young, then it makes sense. If they are trying to win this year then they should hang onto him.

The question is how young do the Pirates want to go?

leadoff wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:57 PM

@Ugh-I'd be happy to see someone under 4.00

Those are major league starters and they are 15-20 mil pitchers, we might have one this year if Maholm gets off to a good start. Unfortuneatly the draft did not have any of those projected in 2008, so the only way we are going to get one is hope there is one in the 2009 draft, or get lucky some how. I understand the Pirates are looking at a right hand pitcher from Missouri, Kyle Gibson, I think he is ranked 7th in next years draft at this point.

BillyKidd wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:58 PM

@JJP313--Welcome to the Asylum. You are now an official Inmate.

G-Man wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:59 PM

PoH -

Not just ERA, but when are we going to sign a pitcher who is not a billion games under 500? In fact, are there any pitchers anywhere who are not under 500? Math says two teams play in each game, so on the whole, somebody has to be over 500 if another guy is under. But I never see those pitchers' career stats anywhere or, at best, it's some guy with 300 decisions who is 151-149. Maybe it's because pitchers over 500 don't get traded or released as often and thus aren't showing up in the articles I read about trades. Ramble, ramble. Sigh!

Cave Bonifield wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:00 PM

Loretta would be a welcome addition.  Good veteran presence and bat off the bench and a much needed back up infielder and spot starter.  An upgrade over Chris Gomez.  

WhyStanBelinda wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:04 PM

New hall of famer, veterans comittee results..

sports.espn.go.com/.../story

JJP313 wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:08 PM

I'm just saying its a low risk move and the guy seems like he can throw a baseball.

Cave Bonifield wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:09 PM

Gman

There is a luxury tax on pitchers over .500.  That is why we don't see any in Pirates uniforms.  

NuttingHostage wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:13 PM

JHadar,

"NH -- Is there a penalty if you miscount the points, or some minimum number of points that can be harvested?"

Yes. - I forget the fine amount. In some parts of the state a buck must have at least 3 points on one side of the rack and other parts of the state a buck must have 4 points on one side of the rack.

Gotta hunt by the rules.

Cave Bonifield wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:14 PM

313

Agreed.  There is nothing wrong with low risk, high potential return investments.  It is culling them out that is difficult.  

I say keep that spigot open and gulp away.

JL wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:30 PM

G'day All.

Just popping back in from a busy morning of tailing NH around all the Vegas strip clubs (boy, he sure knows how to tuck $100 bills into interesting places).

Yes JLP, the Boardwalk, Westward Ho, the Klondike --all blown up or otherwise defunct. Alas, there's no where left for a poor fella to grab a $1.99 All-You-Can-Eat buffet...

madturk2008 wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:32 PM

I can't bemoan the fact that we signed Brian Slocum.  At  least, it did not cost us a player in that deal.  Now if we traded for him that would be a very bad deal.

I don't have see it as bad to get players fringe or not for the minors. If it does not cost us our tradable players for something better then go for it.  At least if they work out we have something.  If not it did not take away from the major league staff.

JL wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:36 PM

LarryZ and Leadoff,

I see that you two fine gentleman are again coming to Freddy's defense. I noticed that you guys were also fighting the good fight the other day. For those of you who were wondering why BK was addressing such a comment to me at the top of this thread, have a gander at THIS one (the highlight: the horse photo; lowlights:his calling the current front office, essentially, a bunch of losers, and everything he had to say about Freddy).

community.post-gazette.com/.../45952.aspx

DMac wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:38 PM

@JL...Did you get to eaves drop on any deals?  

It will be interesting to see how/if any of these pitchers we've signed recently will work out.  

JL wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:41 PM

Slocum:

He was signed to a minor leaugue contract. So the risk to us is minimal. The more of THESE kind of signings, the merrier. Some of them will hopefully flesh out the Indy staff and be ready when the inevitable injuries strike during the season. We might even find another Doumatrait who actually looks like he can pitch (except when he's injuring our dear catcher --I still think POH won't recognize him by name ;-)  ).

BillyKidd wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:47 PM

@JL--Not sure why you would want to call attention to your own self portrait?

LMAO...

JL wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:47 PM

DMac,

"JL...Did you get to eaves drop on any deals?"  

Yes, two deals.

The first one was when NH and his sidekick, Del Taco, struck a deal for "two girls for two hours at a sleazy little place waaayy down at the end of The Strip."

The second deal, was when I produced the photos of their little liaison, and got NH to agree to re-sign Doug. I told him,

if the announcement doesn't come by the end of the week, I'm posting images on this very forum.  

For now, this is just between you and me, DMac  ;-)

uglyken wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:48 PM

@cave <<I say keep that spigot open and gulp away.>>

I agree completely. Like MadTurk said, I have no problem signing minor league FA's to minor league contracts. Someone may pan out, and the farm teams need arms too.

JL wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:51 PM

"Not sure why you would want to call attention to your own self portrait?"

I'm the other end of that horse. ;-)

JL wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:52 PM

Cave and Ugly:

@cave <<I say keep that spigot open and gulp away.>>

I agree completely. Like MadTurk said, I have no problem signing minor league FA's to minor league contracts. Someone may pan out, and the farm teams need arms too.

Me three!

madturk2008 wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:54 PM

Ants march.   Detriot out twins maybe in on Jack.  New thread by our leader

BillyKidd wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:03 PM

@JL--<I'm the other end of that horse. ;-)>

Buddy, That was my line you stole....;-)

G-Man wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:05 PM

LarryZ and Leadoff -

To describe it in other terms, our dear brother BK feels about Freddy Sanchez about the same as he feels for Ben Roethlisberger and roughly equal to my feelings for Adam LaRoche.

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:26 PM

NH - Your HAHAHAHA scares me as much as Plenty's mua-ha-ha-ha. Why is that?

It's getting pretty bad when we've got so many people in the asylum that we shorten their handle down to a number, like, "313." Couldn't we make it a little more personal and make it JJP :-)

JJP, by the way, WELCOME! I'm your day-of-entry cruise host here on the Love Boat (though I'm not nearly as cute as Lauren Tewes). Thanks for your inside and evaluation on Slocum ... Would Joe Kerrigan Jr. be more personal than JJP?

Plenty and All (sounds like the way people in Texas talk, and all) -

Just a quick reminder that our new guy Haigwood had a 3.37 ERA last year in 67 appearances ... albeit a 2-3 record, G-Man, you can't have everything. I'd start him over Duke right now!

web.minorleaguebaseball.com/.../stats.jsp

Now, is anyone around to see this post since we have 45 FRIKKIN THREADS OUT THERE TODAY??. If we keep going with four or more threads a day, they're going to have to change my medication.

DMac - If you're reading this, I picked up Jackson Browne, Running on Empty CD today ... fun.

DMac wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:31 PM

@Bay...I'm here...trying to keep track of everything.

I have that on vinyl and maybe cassette, since I used to dub everything down from my LP's to cassette.  I haven't listened to it in ages though.

Bizrow wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:35 PM

@Bay, hey, thats 4 times as many possibilities for me to get busted at work checking all the info out... ;}

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:37 PM

Thank God, DMac ... somebody I know in this multitude of THREADS! I

G-Man wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:38 PM

Bay -

>>I picked up Jackson Browne, Running on Empty CD today<<

Is that in honor of WSB's travails last night trying to find petrol in Hagerstown?

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:49 PM

@G-Man - >>I picked up Jackson Browne, Running on Empty CD today<<

"Is that in honor of WSB's travails last night trying to find petrol in Hagerstown?"

For the love of Page Odle, G-Man ... I think your sole mission in life is to crack me up! (see other stuff, wherever that thread is now!)

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:51 PM

New info from DK (same thread, though, don't worry my paranoid friends)

"A source who deals with Japanese baseball said the Pirates are not pursuing any of the three veteran pitchers from that country who are free agents."

I was wondering what JL was doing in Las Vegas!

Plenty of Hope wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:55 PM

Baywatch - you may captain the Love Boat. You'd rock at it. I can see you in the white hat now. Maybe Gopher can keep you from standing too close to the smoke stacks and catching afire! G-Man could be "Doc."

Welcome JJP313.

Someone tell me where JAL is. I have abandonment issues.

Plenty of Hope wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:58 PM

Holy crap I just jumped on my desk, spanked my own backside and hummed the theme to lone ranger!

NO KUWATA FOR YOU.

Yes, Elizabeth, there is a Santa Claus.

In this moment in time, I am in love with FC and NH. Srsly.

leadoff wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 4:09 PM

@JL

I see that you two fine gentleman are again coming to Freddy's defense. I noticed that you guys were also fighting the good fight the other day.

Not really fighting any fight for any player, just think trading to be trading without understanding the true value of what you already have is not a wise thing to do.

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 4:09 PM

Nurse Ratched ... the football helmet, please. For Plenty. She's doin' the Lone Ranger things again.

G-Man wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 4:12 PM

PoH -

>>G-Man could be "Doc."<<

That could require some serious acting effort from me. Wasn't Doc sort of a ladies man? My lifetime batting average with the fairer sex is along the lines of what Andy La hit in Pittsburgh this year.

>>Holy crap<<

In the interest of keeping this blog family-friendly, please append the word "Batman" next time you use that exclamation. I don't know why, but it seems more wholesome that way.

Plenty of Hope wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 4:28 PM

G-Man - those relationships on the love boat for you, a permanent crew member, begin and end in what, five days? Man up and enjoy it. Srsly.

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 5:48 PM

I gotta give DK credit: Is there anyone else on here today, besides me, who feels like he/she is right there with Dejan at the Winter Meetings? I'd say that's the mark of a good reporter, writer ... and all-round wild and crazy guy!

DMac wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 5:55 PM

@Bay...I do indeed!  It's been fun trying to keep up and not have to wait to hear on ESPN, or until the late update later tonight.

Dejan Kovacevic wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:03 PM

That is not talk, Joe, and it most definitely is true.

I try to be very careful when using absolute terms like those you saw in the initial report. I was told definitively this morning that the Tigers were not getting Jack Wilson and that they soon would sign Adam Everett. A couple hours later, they signed Everett.

Plenty of Hope wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:06 PM

I have the urge to run into the media room and yell "Freddy Sanchez!" just so DK has to get back on here and say "now I have heard someone say Freddy Sanchez."

Rich wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:46 PM

DK,

What's the scoop on Laroche? Would you think a team that has a good lineup already would be willing to deal with his early season struggles and take him on?

G-Man wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:48 PM

Bay -

>>Is there anyone else...who feels like he/she is right there with Dejan at the Winter Meetings?<<

Let's see. DK is in Las Vegas. I am in Richmond. It's about 35 degrees here today. Uh, I guess that means "No!"

Still, the reporting is great and has a very much real-time feel.

G-Man wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:51 PM

Rich -

Re Adam LaRoche: You are toying with my feelings and getting my hopes up. If we cannot get someone to trade for him, I have not given up hope he will become a professional hunter.

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:51 PM

Rich - I figure we're in a quandry on LaRoche ... I mean, why shouldn't WE take another chance on him hitting in April and May? JAL has pointed out, that with his flaws, he's STILL compares favorably with other first basemen in the league, hittingwise, and maybe a little better fieldingwise.

Sorry, I realize you addressed your question to DK. Not an answer, of course, just a comment. I hope he gets his spring funk stuff sorted out.

Rich wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 7:17 PM

I hear you guys, I'd just like to get rid of people like him who dream about hunting while they are playing first, much like I wanted to get rid of Duffy (which they finally did) I don't care how much we hear about Adam spending time in the batting cage.

STLRFANRC wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 7:26 PM

hey, there's a reason why he's on special medication.  

Baywatch wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 7:53 PM

Wonder if they could make a SPECIAL SPECIAL medication that kicks in on April 1 instead of June 1! G-Man, you're the pharmaceutical expert ...

BillyKidd wrote re: Winter Meetings, Day 1: Pirates sign Slocum
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 8:04 PM

DK just posted the NH Day 1 recap thread...