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Morning links: Amid the bright lights

By Dejan Kovacevic | 12:40 a.m. Monday

LAS VEGAS -- Greetings from this very strange place on the eve of the Winter Meetings.

There are few more misunderstood events in professional sports than this one, certainly from the reporter's perspective, so let me try to shed a little light on it based on the first four that I covered ...

Typical day starts around 7 a.m., getting to the main hotel -- the Bellagio, in this case, is a couple blocks away from the thriftier Marriott where I will be staying -- and setting up shop in a media workroom that is roughly the size of two football fields. Mostly, not much other than the clicking and clacking of keyboards goes on in there, though any actual news conferences will take place at a small setup contained there. For example, today will see Greg Maddux retire in that room, as well as the Veterans Committee's selections for the Hall.

From there, one is very much on his or her own.

There is not one main lobby at these things. There usually are two or there. But there is no rule that people have to go there to talk to anyone. They either gravitate or they do not. Sightings of actual general managers or upper team executives are very rare. Usually, it is assistants, scouts and the like. Players almost never come, though Jack Wilson will buck that trend. Mostly, it is a lot of reporters waiting, watching, whatever.

Truth be told, most of the communicating done at these Meetings is done no differently than if you stay home, which means phone, email or text. These can be used to arrange some face-to-face interviews -- always a good idea in a place so big -- or the communication can just stay electronic. Once a tip is had, it tends to be a really long walk from the lobby or lobbies back to the big media room if there is any urgency to get that information online.

Once a day, in the late afternoon, the local media contingent on hand -- there will be four from Pittsburgh -- will be ushered up to Neal Huntington's suite, but only after it is tidied up and all the relevant names have been erased off the big white board in there. I have seen those covered with blankets, too. He will chat for about 15 minutes, try like crazy to avoid giving out specifics of any potential personnel moves, and everyone goes right back to the whole lobby-then-type thing.

That is basically it. Even when one gets back to one's hotel room for the day, there is an understanding that the process here never sleeps. Baseball meetings, especially with agents, go on all through the night. Last year, I posted the item about the Pirates and Cleveland discussing Jason Bay at about 3 a.m., if memory serves, and that was because I heard about it at about 2:30 a.m.

Linkage to the general coverage ...

The biggest storyline could be among the first, as the Pirates and Tigers will meet early this week -- maybe as early as today -- to discuss Jack Wilson, I found out yesterday. Also in this report is word that the Pirates will have internal discussions regarding what to do about Denny Bautista and arbitration. If I were a betting man -- and Vegas would push someone to be exactly that -- I would not bet in favor of Bautista being tendered. But that is nothing more than a personal observation.

Also, know that the Q&A will come as scheduled this week, tomorrow through Friday. Here is the form.

And from other realms ...

Detroit did make a trade very early this morning, the Free Press reports, but it was for a catcher from Texas.

The Tigers' official site discusses Wilson.

This is Tim Dierkes' favorite week of the year.

PHOTO of Bellagio hotel: Me, sticking my phone camera out of the taxi window tonight


Posted Dec 08 2008, 12:40 AM by Dejan Kovacevic

Comments

Baywatch wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:51 AM

DK - I know you've been back for a week or so now, but just want to tell you again how great it is to have you back ... We had a lot of fun since the end of the season - and I think amazed even ourselves at how we well we've stuck together - but having you back has been like a nice, long, cold drink of water from my grandmother's old dipper.

How's that for an analogy?

And I've missed our phone camera photos, too. Maybe you can run a Best of DK's Camera Photos before too long. My personal favorite was Nyjer and his Dad!

Have a great week!

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:58 AM

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bucsfancents80 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:13 AM

Millar?  Its 2006 all over again.  Why not call up Burnitz, Randa, and Jose Hernandez too?  We had a 2 time all star right handed power bat that was in his prime.  Maybe we'll be 30-60 by the break just like 2006 too if these are the type of people we are looking at.  Millar has to be in his upper 30's.  Indeed he is 37.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:19 AM

Burnitz batted .230 hit 16 homers and had 49 rbi in 313 AB's in 2006.  Millar barely did much more than that with 200 plus more AB's.  The fans were all over Burnitz that season.  Can't imagine life would be much better with another stop gap type of player.  Keep Doug and Jason Michaels before ever thinking about paying this guy.  At least Doug and Jason want to be here.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:28 AM

Here are his stats:

sports.espn.go.com/.../stats

Pretty much been going downhill since 2003.  He has 7 career stolen bases so not exactly going to stretch out many infield hits or triples in the alley.  Our team speed is already suspect less Morgantown and Nate so this can't happen.  According to that site, he made almost 4 million in 2008.  Can't see him taking a paycut so this should not be considered if you realize he is a solid 5 years past his prime.

Dejan Kovacevic wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:35 AM

Greg,

The reference to Millar was solely to underscore what was out there in the right-handed power bat mold through free agency. Nothing more.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:39 AM

@bucs--Millar..

Don't blow a gasket. Millar wants to start...So does Doug...Who do you think they will choose? Someone they know or someone they don't...

This is nothing but posturing for the meetings.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:40 AM

DK nice to see you made it safe and sound...

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:49 AM

How many rumors do we hear every year and how many of them actually come true? If we didn't have rumors, we wouldn't have a whole lot to talk about, hence the term Hot Stove. I'm sure before this week is even half through, there will be more rumors than there are casinos.....

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:52 AM

And with that I will leave you with one more rumor

That I might be checking out for the night and not just going to lurk around for a while...

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:54 AM

Dear Mr. Kovacevic,

Thank you for your letter. Unfortunately, I am unable to honor your request. While I congratulate you on your achieving "big time newspaperman" status. And while I don't doubt your ability to "make or break a star with a single sentence", I am pretty comfortable with my career at this point in my life.

Although I will not be possible to close my show with you and I performing a duet, I will take a listen to Bizarre Love Triangle and we'll see if we can fit it into the show. I also regret to tell you that our front row center seats are sold out months in advance. I must also inform you that the shows scheduled for when you will be in town are sold out. And there's no way to get tickets. So please don't attempt to do so. The theater has very strict security and a very strict dress code. Please, and I cannot stress this enough, please do not attempt to gain entrance. Oh, and No; there is not a back entrance for you to enter through to avoid paparazzi. So please avoid the back of the theater. In fact, if I were you, I would avoid the Hilton Hotel entirely during your trip. I think it's going to closed for fumigation.

To answer some of your questions. I'm sorry, although I have met many of Hollywood's A-List I did not know anyone named Tooter Turtle nor did I ever meet anyone named Mr. Wizard. As for my appearance on Alice; I believe you may be thinking of Robert Goulet.

No, not everyone in Nevada has eight wives. Are you perhaps thinking of Utah? Yes, I have visited Hoover Dam. No, I did not try to pee off of it. Sorry. As for the rules of Baccarat, I'm sure you can purchase a book at your local book store to explain the rules. You will be happy to know that you can play "War" at some of the casinos. As for "52 Pick Up", I really don't know.

I don't know when I will make it to Pittsburgh but my management will put me up in a hotel. A top secret hotel that you wouldn't be able to find so don't try. Please heed my advise and do not attempt to try. But thank you for the generous offer of a pull-out couch. I'm sure that this Ron's Pizza Palace is very "nice and classy joint" and perhaps I'll make it there someday. Thank you for the recommendation.

I'm glad you enjoyed seeing me on The Muppet Show. Unfortunately, I do not keep in touch with the Swedish Chef and I doubt that he has a restaurant for you to visit in Vegas. I don't know where you may have heard that I was supposed to be the lead in "An Officer and a Gentleman". No one ever approached me about that. But bless you for asking.

Per your advice, I did Google you. You are quite the guitar player, but we are very happy with our current band lineup. And although it is very warm here in the desert; a Speedo is not considered proper attire outside of the pool areas.

Again, I think you may have me confused with another performer, regardless: Danke Schoen right back at ya!

Sincerely,

Barry Manilow  

LLOYD Be Free wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:03 AM

Actually, Millar at about $1.5million and knowing he would be a role player would be a decent addition.  Need that righty power off of the bench and it also makes it easier to trade ADLaRoche if he gets off to a good start and the Buccos don't.

I love DougM but he wants more and, as a player(not a leader) , he is a bad fit for this squad.

Dejan Kovacevic wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:14 AM

Dear Mr. Manilow,

Did anyone ever do a punk version of "Mandy?" Seems to lend itself to that sort of treatment.

Insane.

LLOYD Be Free wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:15 AM

Millar's D looks OK also so even if he's not the greatest FA signee we can hope for, he's surely not the worst.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:16 AM

Suddenly, the skies Vegas have turned cloudy, today. Shakespearean foreshadowing for the PBC?

I hope Jack ends up with the Dodgers. Wouldn't that be a treat for him and his family? Detroit is going to be a pretty dreary place with the automaker woes for the next few years. Though in a way, I guess that could make the local athletes all the move beloved in that town. Still, let Jack go home to L.A. I just hope we get back players more interesting than Delwyn Young or Chin Iung Hu.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:28 AM

BK,

I got the email notification that you posted another comment re: Freddy on Sir L's thread over in the forums.

Sorry, but yes you were still "far off." NH fielding inquiries about Freddy is not exactly close to what you were saying about our 2nd baseman. Of course, you were only trying "to get a rise out of (me)."

I WAS being my usual silly self today. For you, I don't know -maybe that was the beer from Vincent's talking ;-)

LLOYD Be Free wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:34 AM

Man, the midnight crew is tough.  Can't imagine the day crew.  Delwyn Young and CL Hu are not boring players if the Buccos can get them and a pitcher for Jack and maybe a low tier prospect........even if the Bucs gotta eat some salary.

Young is a switch hitter with some minor league pop and Hu is a D whiz who hit in the minors and hasn't in his 100 or so MLB at-bats.  Add a good pitching prospect and even eating a couple mil of Jack's contract is a no brainer......at least for those of us who have no brains.

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:38 AM

DK, You brought back a fuzzy memory.

A band called Me First and the Gimme Gimmes did a punk version of Mandy.

I saw a band do it at the Crocodile Cafe in Seattle. That was quite a few years ago and odds are I had at least two or three Red Stripes that night, I thought it was Spacehog that played it, but it was probably the Gimmes.

Here's what it says on their wiki page. "In August 2006 Me First and the Gimme Gimmes were scheduled to play three dates at PNC Park after Pirates games, but after they got booed on the first night, the next two nights were canceled. They were to play along with fireworks during the post-game "Skyblast" shows."

Guess if it's Pittsburgh, it better be Skynyrd.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:41 AM

"DougM...  ...is a bad fit for this squad."

JLP better not be right about them fumigating the Hilton, because my wife happens to work there! But if it IS true: LLoyd Be Freaky, why don't you mosey on over to the lobby and breathe in deeply, my man. It can't be as unhealthy for you as whatever it is you ARE breathing now.

Dejan Kovacevic wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:42 AM

Those guys had the audacity to mock 70s music in our hometown, where Foghat reigns supreme. Bad move. Almost as bad as choosing them to perform there.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:44 AM

"...at least for those of us who have no brains. ..."

Alright. You made fun of yourself, so I take back the Hilton fumes comment. But leave Doug M. alone! He happens to walk on water to some of us long-suffering Bucco fans.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:51 AM

I  think this actually was intended as a serious promotional piece:

www.youtube.com/watch

And it includes my favorite all-time Manilow line: "You get what get when you go for it." (Huh????????....)

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:51 AM

I have to get back to work. But speaking of 70s music:

"Tonight there's going to be a jailbreak. Somewhere in this town."

I would bet it's near the jail.

LLOYD Be Free wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:56 AM

JL, I'm a long sufferer too....and I absolutely love DougM.  But, as long as we have Adam LaRoche and a limited budget, and also a noncompetetive team, Doug is not the right fit.

Now if we trade Jack for a couple dudes that can help the big squad this year, trade for/or sign a short term big league shortstop, sign Ramon Vazquez and sign PByrd or some other SP to improve our squad, then Dirty Doug would be an invaluable player and worth some money that he's looking for.

LLOYD Be Free wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:06 AM

Oh, and in my opinion, Jack Wilson will not get traded during the Vegas vacation.  No team will overpay there and that is a requirement with Mr. Huntington.  If he can stay healthy into the regular season, then he will attract some major deals.  Especially if it lasts till the trade deadline.  

And, also my opinion, Freddy Sanchez should be on the same block as our shortstop.  Just like Wilson, he won't garner top dollar now, but if he hits 350 over the first third, and the Bucs are under .500, gotta go.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:07 AM

Lloyd,

Just what are you inhaling over there? KIDDING!!

But I don't follow your logic about trading Jack so that "then Dirty Doug would be an invaluable player and worth some money..."

But that's alright. Everyone's got a take, and mine's no more important than the next guys. I'm getting too tired to defend anyone, anymore tonight. It seems that's all I do around here.  Dejan, it's in your hands --get Doug re-signed this week. I already got the pictures of NH at the "private" party. Getting ready to wrap it up here soon...

JL wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:12 AM

Hey Lloyd, just notice your avatar --great moment in recent Pirate history! And I actually mean that. Some people ridicule that as a empty, phony gesture on McClendon's part. But I liked it. When the umps are against you, and even your own management is against you --swipe a base! Like Doug M., at least Lloyd gave a d_mn.

LLOYD Be Free wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:25 AM

JL, glad you appreciated LLoyd fighting for every win.  

What I wrote wasn't a "take".  It was a serious thought about the possibility of our Buccos making a playoff run in 2009.  

We need a lot of luck.  Status Quo is not as conducive to luck as is the squad making a major move.  JacKkWilson is my favorite Pirate but I would rather see the team win without him than lose with him.

And Doug is probably my next favorite.  And my "take" on him is the same.

LLOYD Be Free wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:35 AM

And I am sorry to get defensive dude.  Like you and every baseball fan in this city.........whatever it takes to win enough for a playoff push works!

Zachary Weiss wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 4:22 AM

The Tigers trading for Laird more than likely means that Jack will either go to the Dodgers or remain a Bucco. I just think that despite all that Jack has done for Pittsburgh, his injury over the last three weeks of the 2008 season will lower the player calibur the Dodgers offer. I think it is best that Wilson remains a Pirate.

jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:11 AM

If the Tigers were looking for a ss a catcher and another and they got the catcher how does that automatically rule out thier desire for a ss?  He is not even going to arbitration for two years and he cand not be blowing the budget, what am I missing here?

My thought is the tigers did not give up the system for laird and if I am thier boss I am thinking boy oh boy I got the catcher I wanted at not too much now I can get the ss I need and I hope to be there?

I think thiem getting laird for the price they paid makes them more likey to try for the ss they want.  I would doubt if either of the two pitchers the tigers gave away were deal makers for the Pirates.

this gives me a chance to vote my way on a jack wilson trade: if there is a show stopper move--move him-- he will be back ready to play full speed at st he will be worth much more come july and we will have more time to undertake a decision to his replacement--regardless of any issue the best issue for this team is to have a major league competant ss as we are not sure of the rest of the infield--remember what happened when he went down early  we all cried it looked like he was replaced with a shive==move jack if it is a move to help the big league team, now--this is the ss the cornerstone of any team and you have to hold out for more than hopefulls here.

jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:12 AM

whats this

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jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 6:12 AM

ants marching up a WV hollo

appealtosmail wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 8:32 AM

Many thanks to all who sent welcomes and greetings last week. I had no time to get back on. Anyway I think trading Jack, Freddie, LaRoche, Paulino or whoever will not have a great deal of consequence. The real change for us is down in the DR, Venezuela and in the draft. We're still stuck way down in deep muck and new management has us maybe able to wiggle our toes but it's going to be a long way out. Now, with that being said I'll be riveted this week to see if anything happens. Can't help it. I'm as crazy as all of you and am glad you understand.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 8:53 AM

@JL--Freddy

Honestly. The trading of Freddy would be a welcome event to me (personally) IMO he is avg at best. I would welcome a salary dump trade of him for either Negrych/Ford to come up or the acquisition of a 1 or 2 year replacement.

I am also leaning towards this model for first base...Get a box of broken bats for AdLa and let DD/Pearce fight it out along with an acquired (I like this line) Lefty McThump. May the best man win until Pedro proves he can not sufficiently play the hot corner but is knocking the ball into the river on a regular basis and make the move to first. That should give us a lineup that looks something like this in 10 IMHO

1B Pedro

2B Ford/Negrych

3B Walker/LaRoche

SS TBD

LF Nate

RF Moss

CF McClouth

C Doumit

Pearce, DD, and others filling the bench

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:22 AM

BK: What, no A.McCutchen or Tabata patroling the OF in 10? I highly disagree. More likely McCutch in CF, Nate in LF & Moss in RF...with a late season call-up of Tabata.....

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:25 AM

Bk: Just caught it, you got Nate in RF and McLouth in CF.....Man that guy must cover a lot of ground!

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:28 AM

@Pi--My bad..I meant McCutch in CF..I put Nate and McClouth in twice//LOL.

<<More likely McCutch in CF, Nate in LF & Moss in RF...with a late season call-up of Tabata.....>>

Correct, I see it that way as well. The only caveat to this is to make sure Moss's knee will hold up patrolling the OF. If it can't you may see him move to 1B.

Sorry for the typo error

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:30 AM

Bk: I take it you meant McCutchen vice McLouth in CF. I believe that Nyjmo will either be a 4th OF or have been traded by then......

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:31 AM

@PI--For those that have an aversion to the cold, please provide the forecast for your little corner of the world today...

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:34 AM

As for the TBD @ SS, I think that will be determined sometime this season. Whether it be this off season or at the trade deadline (we can only hope!)....

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:38 AM

Low tonight (its 10:35 Pm) will be near 70 degrees (brrrrr) with a high tomorrow in the upper 80's to low 90's. Always a slight chance of showers this time of year, but usually not lasting more than an hour.....

Arriba Wilver wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:38 AM

BK--I'm with you--two Nates are better than one. ;)

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:41 AM

DK and BK,

Not blowing a gasket, just not a fan of that type of free agent after all of the complaining over the previous administration.  Everyone here would be standing in line with pitchforks in hand if we signed Millar and he turned out to be another Burnitz.  His numbers pretty much tell you he won't be much more than that.  Was just presenting his stats and making the argument as to why I think it is not a good potential signing when he is clearly past his prime.

Might as well let someone else making the minimum get a shot over some guy that will hardly get any AB's and will be gone in a year.  That was the argument for most of Aug and Sept  Paraphrasing of course "let's have the young guys play and see what they can do."  That's why most of the veterans sat the final month or two.  So why consider someone who is in the same mold as those guys I mentioned from 2006.  

All I am saying is if that is what we are looking at in the Tier 2 market, go after pitching instead and save the money.  Millar isn't going to get you anymore wins.  We aren't fooling anyone, we have or are in the process of dumping all of our veterans.  It makes no sense to say we need a Right handed bat when we had Bay and Nady.  Millar isn't close to either of those two.  I'm not picking on Millar either, he was a good player in his prime.  Its frustrating when you hear a name and the only time we sign them is when there isn't much left in the tank.  Matt Morris...same deal.  Great name at the beginning of the decade, not by the time he signed with us.

I'd rather throw whatever dollars we have toward pitching.  Let the offense suffer, but at least we might be in most of the games if we upgrade the pitching staff solely.  These guys need a full year of on the job training if they are supposed to be our future.  

DMac wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:47 AM

Good morning all!

@DK...Thanks for the insight on the winter meetings.  I'm one of those that often wonders what goes on behind the scenes.  Glad to hear that you made it to Vegas okay.

Please be advised that JL is our man on the ground out there.  If you notice someone shadowing you, it's most likely him.  ;-)

It looks to be an interesting week...

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 9:50 AM

Well guys, gotta go see my VA shrink in Manila tomorrow and have to leave here at 6 Am.....Must get my snooze time in! Enjoyed my time here tonight (AM?) and hope we hear some news soon on the trade & free agent fronts.....Take care and stay warm!

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:25 AM

@PI--NyjMo.

I would like to think so but he may end up as trade bait as a speedy OF for someone like NYY that has gotten very old pretty quickly, (exception Nady) But he is not a speedster on the paths.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:28 AM

@bucs--Agreed.

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:30 AM

My two cents on the Winter Meetings. If you think that we come away from Vegas with anything but bare naked, you're higher than I looked yesterday. (Yes. DK and I share the same stylist.)

I don't know if this subject will come up at the meetings and I don't know who decides such things. But I would love to see the World Baseball Classic pushed back a few months. That way some of the northern cities could have a fair shake at hosting a few games. I would think if they shortened the rounds from 5 days to 4 that they could borrow players in May and June. The players, who really seemed to dig playing for their countries, would prefer to get a little seasoning before the WBC. This could grow to be on a scale of the World Cup. Well, maybe not that big. But I think they have a lot of room to grow.

Just curious. Is anyone planning on going to games at the SkyDome in March?

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:35 AM

@DK -DMac

You are one lucky man not to have DMac shadowing you.

@bucsfancents80

Now that makes sense to me as well.  If we trade away Jack and Freddy then why not let the youngins take oer and see what they have.  Do we realy think we will win with a couple of middle teir or aging players?  I rather see some young hungry players out there.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:37 AM

Wish I could Jose Lind.  I like your idea, not sure how they could pull that off and keep the 162 game schedule and the postseason in tact though.  The season will go into November next year as it is.  It might help season ticket sales though in markets like ours.  

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:40 AM

Madturk,

Yep, let's go all the way with this young building process if that is what has been chosen.  No replacing our veterans with past their prime replacements.  Get some pitching and if we need offensive help, that is usually easier to obtain during the season than pitching.

leadoff wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:41 AM

Good Morning All---

Some news from the Beaver County Times Sunday edition, no links. John Perotto

The Pirates might deal Freedie Sanchez at the winter meetings

The Pirates may also be shopping Adam LaRoach and John Grabow

Johns says because Ronny Paulino did very well in winter ball this year he may have upped his trade value

@Billy- why do you think McCuthen is the center fielder and Nate is the right fielder,  I fail to see how McCuthen can be anointed the center fielder over an all star center fielder when he hasn't done as well in the minors as Nate has done in the majors. From all reports I get, McCuthen has a lot to learn about defense. Just Curious

Baywatch wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:41 AM

JLP - We kid around about being in the asylum ... but I think you really are a nut fruitcake!

LloydBFree - You said twice about Doug asking for too much money. I don't remember seeing anything about how much he's asking ... has it been published?

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:44 AM

@Baywatch

LloydBFree - You said twice about Doug asking for too much money. I don't remember seeing anything about how much he's asking ... has it been published?

Yes I thought it was all about a starting job only?

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:48 AM

I really don't think there would have to be an interruption in play. Just play the regular schedule as planned. Hold the games in cities where the home team is on the road. Or in our case play them while they're at home, who would notice?

I know the owners would drop bricks over being without a star player for three or four games, but the other teams would also be at that disadvantage. The average for players borrowed per team would be around one. Although I didn't think about being without said player 3 weekends in a row. But I'm sure the extra cash they make from mrchandise, etc. would surely numb the pain a little.

leadoff wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:55 AM

Pants--

Take away allstar week, which is useless, replace it with 4 or five games and call it the world cup games.

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:56 AM

@Baywatch

I think that since Doug isn't offering to pay them, they consider it too high. Honestly, I'm surprised that they're still pretending to flirt.

WhyStanBelinda wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 10:57 AM

DK- I try not to use a taxi while in Vegas.  Walking and sightseeing is a two for one deal.

that and a $10 cab ride for four blocks is larceny.  

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:04 AM

They have a pretty decent bus system in Vegas. I rode it a few times the last time I was there. Actually, I almost got into a fist fight on it. I think that's a fluke though. He really shouldn't have been humming Limp Bizkit.

Avoid the buffet at the Boardwalk Casino at all cost. Unless you want a real good case of the Gary Glitters. The buffet at Ceasar's was fantastic and I had some nice meals inside Paris. FYI.

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:13 AM

But I have not ate here: www.post-gazette.com/.../933579-298.stm

Maybe an idea for a future gathering?

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:24 AM

@Leadoff--Nate vs McCutch in CF

I am basing my opinion on what I have read from the past and present management at ALL levels and maybe more importantly from listening to DK...DK if i amy quote you "He is the real deal"

I am not annointing him but I feel based upon all of the information that gives the PBC the best possible OF. Hey if he struggles in CF and thrives on the corner so be it.

DMac wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:26 AM

@Mad...Should I take that as a compliment or a dig?  ;-)

@DK...No worries...I wouldn't shadow the man able to get us the best information.  Besides, I have a friend that lives in Vegas.  We'd find some other kind of trouble to get into.  

@WSB...Somehow, I'm thinking DK wasn't up for much sight-seeing when he arrived last night/early this morning...more likely just getting to the hotel. ;-)

About DD's contract...I don't think we've heard anything about exact numbers, just that he wanted a chance to start.  If the Pirates deal Adam, that may bode well for Doug.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:30 AM

@JLP--<The average for players borrowed per team would be around one. Although I didn't think about being without said player 3 weekends in a row>>

What happens when said star blows out their arm or knee in the 9th inning of the final game?

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:35 AM

I think that's the risk they run every time they step on the field. However, and please any physiologists feel free to jump in, I think they would be less likely to suffer injury going full speed in May than they would be in March.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:36 AM

I would bet the only sight seeing DK will get is the daily commute from the Marriott to the Bellagio each morning and each night as well as the trip back to McCarron Airport.

Having fairly intimate knowledge of the press corps on travel...He is not leaving the Bellagio except for sleep and even that may end up as a nap in his chair in the Press Room if a deal or news is imminent. I would not be surprised that in his computer bag that there is a small travel toiletries kit...

Bizrow wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:40 AM

@ JLind Pants, the Boardwalk isn't there anymore, they are building some $$8 Billion city center or some such thing, one of the things hurting the casino owners what with the market and borrowing and all that stuff.

DK should try the buffet at the Bellagio, we think its one of the best ones there.  But what do we know?  Free drinks, most anythining would taste good....  :}

If we trade Laroche, where do we get any power at all??

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:58 AM

@Biz--power.

Pearce is a power bat, and should work nicely providing that he can hit the junk or be sesective enough to increase the walk total...But the issue is can he hit the junk. We know he can crush the fastball and odd pitch mistake.

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 11:59 AM

@Bizrow - That breaks my heart to hear about the Boardwalk. Almost as much as it bothered me to see the Cowboys pointing fingers last night. It had all the ambiance and taste of Burger King. What a horrible hotel.

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:13 PM

@DMac wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights

on Dec 8, 2008 11:26 AM

@Mad...Should I take that as a compliment or a dig?  ;-)

A compliment by all means.

Bizrow wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:15 PM

BK, I hope you are right about Pearce, that would be sweet

JLP- Understand about the tears with Boardwalk and expecially Cowboys, that was sweet indeed.

DK - one thing about Bellagio buffet, I hope you are allowed to use your expense statement....

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:27 PM

Bill, you never fail to amaze me with your insanity. In three years all Steve Pearce will have done is make people wonder "Think Chris Duffy sees the irony in working at Chipotle?"

Plenty of Hope wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:33 PM

Good afternoon inmates!

One word can describe how I feel about DK right now: jealous. Not for him being in Vegas, but because he is in primo newshunting, gathering and distributing mode in the very belly of baseball right now.

I hope, whether this week or soon, they acquire a power bat that hits from the right. What I, personally, missed losing Bay and Nady was not what most people missed: I missed Doumit sandwiched between two other power guys in the lineup. There was really no way for a pitcher to avoid all three of them in a row and Ryan usually got pitched to because bigger names were before and after him.

As for you, MR. PANTS (pause for a giggle just cuz I got to say that) you're meshing of a very small picture of partial nakedity and the name Barry Manilow side by side is too much for a Monday. Tone yourself down.

Baywatch - Hey there you! "Fruitcake" - you called someone a "Fruitcake." LMAO - that's old school right there and extremely fitting for this time of year.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:39 PM

@JLP--Pearce

The man can hit the fastball (a mile) is all I am saying. I am not drinking any SP Kool-Aid until he proves that he can hit the off-speed.

NuttingHostage wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:40 PM

Hello Everyone.....

Not sure if anyone caught John Mehno's column yesterday but he reported that recently "retired" Lanny Fratarre has expressed interest in several jobs recently include a local high school athletic director position, an announcing gig with the Atlanta Braves, and an opportunity with the soon to be launched MLB Network.

Apparently he had no plans to "retire" afterall.

That said, I'd be interested now in knowing the real reason Frattare no longer works for the Pirates.

Did the club give him the option of "retiring" or being fired?

Or did he simply choose to leave the organization for some reason? - And if so, what was his reason?

Anyone have any ideas?

www.altoonamirror.com/.../513915.html

Plenty of Hope wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:40 PM

<<Irony of working at Chipotle!">>

MUA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

nice one.

Jose Lind's Pants wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:53 PM

Hello... Nutting.

Bizrow wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:54 PM

POH, personally I'm jealous of DK as he is in Vegas, a wonderful place,

You guys (and ladies) do know the ants marched to a new post?

NuttingHostage wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:57 PM

Billy,

"Having fairly intimate knowledge of the press corps"

*Snicker*

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

;-)

DMac wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:01 PM

Wait!  Chipotle?  I thought Duffy was at some used car lot in Phoenix?  WTH?  ;-)

@Mad...Thanks...I think.  ;-)

If we trade Adam, would DD's avg. get better with more playing time?  I know he may not have much power, but if he gets more consistent AB's, if they fall in for more hits overall, that wouldn't be bad, would it?

Welcome back, NH!  How was your trip?

NuttingHostage wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:04 PM

Hi DMac,

My trip was terrific thanks. - No deer yet, but 10 days away at the cabin and in the woods does a man wonders.

Hope you had a good Thanksgiving and Black Friday Shopping Spree.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:24 PM

@DMac-Duffy

Supposedly he did not like the coffee at the Used Car Lot/ Irony of the bad food in Winter Ball...He is now the back-up  Burrito Maker at Chipolte....

DMac wrote re: Morning links: Amid the bright lights
on Mon, Dec 8 2008 1:48 PM

@NH...Sorry you didn't get a deer -- better luck next time.  But I can imagine the time in the cabin was fantastic.

Thanksgiving was okay, but I don't much go in for the Black Friday mayhem.

@BK...Umm...I don't suppose this would be the right time to mention that the chicken burritos at Chipotle are one of my favorite fast-food items?  *grin*