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Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?

By Dejan Kovacevic | 12:30 a.m. Wednesday

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MILWAUKEE -- We have some Qs ...

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Q: Looking forward to the next possible Pirates team that even achieves mediocrity, I started filling out my lineup card for April 4, 2011. But I ran into some hazy issues. Particularly, what can we make of Andy LaRoche?

Less than six months ago, he was seen as one of the top 15 prospects in baseball, somewhere between Jacoby Ellsbury and Matt Wieters. It sure would be nice to say we could get a .290 average with 25 home runs and 85 RBIs from him in 2011. Based on his minor league stats, that would seem well within the realm of possibility, but we all remember Chad Hermansen's minor league stats, too. Can Andy develop into the real deal? Are scouts sour on him now that he has struggled in the majors?

Brian Leary of Clarion

KOVACEVIC: It is entirely possible, Brian, that all the scouts were wrong. It happens, even to those capable of "walking on water," as was Woody Huyke's infamous declaration regarding Hermansen all those years ago.

I look at LaRoche with my untrained eye, and I cannot begin to understand what the scouts saw. I do not see the excellent eye that has been described. I do not see the even, controlled stroke. I see the power only when a pitcher hangs some awful breaking pitch. And, above all, I do not see this above-average glove.

Where is it? Any of it?

(And this is to say nothing of more than one issue already involving effort.)

That said, when you bring this up with people who have trained eyes, they look at you as if you are nuts. They see all kinds of talent, all kinds of potential, but they see a player who is immensely struggling and fighting himself and, as a result, making his hole even deeper.

And, as Neal Huntington mentioned a week back when I raised the "scholarship" issue with him regarding why LaRoche seems immune to accountability, there apparently are teams eager and willing to take LaRoche off the Pirates' hands.

Not seeing it.

By the way, Lloyd McClendon once said of Hermansen, "He doesn't look defeated when he strikes out." And he intended it as a positive. Buddy of mine used that as his scrolling screensaver.

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Q: Dejan, has Sean Burnett locked up a bullpen spot next year as a result of his second-half performance?

Brian Dulski of Lebanon, Ill.

KOVACEVIC: No, he has not, Brian. Management's view is that the only bullpen locks going into next spring are Matt Capps and John Grabow, though they seem to acknowledge Burnett right there in the next tier with Tyler Yates. The tier after that has Denny Bautista and T.J. Beam.

Burnett's splits are not as clean-cut as first-half/second-half, as these figures will show. But the most important element, probably, is that he has been very good since a Jeff Andrews mechanical instruction that moved him on the rubber and gave fresh life to his fastball and slider, as well as the implementation of a changeup that allowed him - finally - to get righties out.

It is fairly easy, I think, to project that Burnett will be part of the pen. For one, bear in mind that the Pirates control his major league rights for four more years and would risk losing him through waivers if they try to demote him. For another, add up all the left-handed relief candidates in the entire organization for 2009, and it comes down to ... well, Grabow and Burnett. Juan Perez is still down there, as is Dave Davidson in Class AA, but neither should be taken seriously going into the next spring training.

Hey, isn't Damaso Marte about to become a free agent?

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Q: Hi, Dejan. I went to the final game Sunday and, while the play on the field was not that enjoyable to watch, the scoreboard was another matter.

I appreciated the players thanking fans and their announcements of the winners of their jerseys. I was so looking forward to something more after the game, but there it fell flat. There was silence where I expected a speech and the only fans noticeably receiving attention were the winners. You've reported that there was more later. If I'd known, I would have waited, but I left.

This was a good start. Now, it needs a better finish.

Marda Hook of Wexford

KOVACEVIC: Nice to see that "Wexford" after your name, rather than "New York." Congratulations on the move, Marda.

I have said my piece regarding Sunday, as have several ticket-holders who attended, but I can add this: A couple readers wrote in complaining that ushers did not allow them to approach the field-level railing after the final out, which, if true, would be a first. Not to mention strange. If fans can approach that railing when the Yankees are taking batting practice, they certainly should be allowed to bid farewell to their own team.

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Thing No. 111 that makes Pittsburgh great: The long park along Fort Duquesne Boulevard, Downtown.

Nate Clark of Napa, Calif., emailed a link yesterday to the Library of Congress' collection of panoramic photos, which can dig up some great city shots (including the 1909 world championship PBC that adorns each edition of the Q&A).

Anyway, that got me thinking about a neat moment shared last week with this person I married a long time ago. (Multiple sources indicate strongly that we still are married, but I await independent confirmation when this whole baseball thing ends next week.) After a gyro stop on Sixth Street, we walked over to the portion of the park between the Clemente and Warhol bridges, and I asked her to look at the North Shore, way left and way right, to try to recall what it all looked like. The stadiums and dramatically upgraded riverfront, including the water steps, obviously stand out. But Alcoa's signature headquarters (funny how no neon sign is necessary in light of great design), the Lincoln at North Shore apartments (former residence), and the fairly new second Siemens building directly across the river did just as much to alter forever what had been ... well, does anybody really remember what was over there?

I do, specifically as it relates to all the houses.

It seems remarkable but, just a decade ago, there was an entire - though small - neighborhood directly on the site of PNC Park, closer to the first-base side. There was an extension of River Avenue along the water and two perpendicular side streets leading up to General Robinson, all filled with real houses with real people in them. There also were rows of houses along General Robinson. All were bought up by the city in one of the city's few financial contributions to Plan B.

The park itself has two tiers, the upper lined with a long, winding stone bench and some sturdy landscaping. The lower tier, which looked pretty stupid when it opened eight years ago, did actually fulfill its architect's promise that it would grow into something nice once the trees and other stuff grew up.

Oh, yeah, and that used to be a long parking lot.

The person who might merit credit for starting it all was the one laughed at when it started: Mayor Sophie.

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Until tomorrow ...


Posted Sep 24 2008, 12:30 AM by Dejan Kovacevic

Comments

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 12:43 AM

Mariners look like they want to put off their 100th loss for a day.  Nice comeback in their game with the Angels.  9-6 in the 8th.  They are trying to end a 12 game LOSING streak.  At least we cant lose 100 games.  We'll save that for next year.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 12:53 AM

3 teams have a good shot at 100 losses.  We won 68 in 2007, good enough for 2nd in the draft.  This year we will probably finish with less than 68 wins and pick 4th in 2009.  Go figure.

M's 99

Nats 98

Pads about to lose their 96th

ForbesFielder wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:02 AM

Good heavens, when and why did "bidding farewell" to the team become such a big issue? I guess it's nice that they gave away the jerseys, but I'm good to go without a formal goodbye or an anonymous AAA player tossing his sweaty cap into the stands and setting off a scramble near my seat. We have this big emotional goodbye and two weeks from now a couple of these guys will be signing autographs at the mall. Take it easy. It's not high school graduation where you're leaving your friends after 12 years. TJ Beam is going home for the winter. So be it.

PI Stingray wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:02 AM

Speaking of Chad Hermansen, I wonder what he has done with his life since his fall from baseball? That would be an interesting "Where is he now?" Any info on that DK?

mazfromiowa wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:05 AM

@DK

 I agree on Lil La.When I see him FLAIL at pitches in the dirt or look so bad on off speed pitches it took me back to high school  when I saw my 1st good slider.Maybe he and big bro and dad(of course dad was a pitcher) can do work in the off season maybe there are some possibilities.With PA and Walker coming up he needs to get his act together.Walker's glove work has really come along.(19 errors in over 500 ABs)Neil's average not quite .250Lil La's BA at .170 and 10 errors in 125 ABs not much to give hope

jersey joe wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:13 AM

Lets face it, it now looks like third base is a stop gap to pedro unless he is moved to first.  From that point of view I would hope the one who plays the best in spring is our guy for now.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:13 AM

Good points Forbes.

Most of the region could care less that the home portion of the season is over. The team should consider itself fortunate that anyone is scrambling to get their hands on anything related to this team.

JL wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:15 AM

PI,

I worked this year with a guy who went to high school with Chad. Says he was playing independent ball, somewhere. This guy also concurs with the concensus: about the nicest guy you'd ever meet. Very religious, married his high school sweetheart. Used to get ribbed all the time after '98, when McGuire had been on his tear.  ESPN kept trotting out stock footage of a Big Mac homer going over the wall with Hermanson futilely jumping up  trying to snag it. "Hey, Chad! That's YOU again!"

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:18 AM

They'll all be back in 4 months for PirateFest.  What an interesting event that should be in late January.

Teke's_Sunglasses wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:19 AM

Its true, the ushers were standing at the steps leading to the section around the dugouts and would not allow anyone down - even little kids.  Some people, ForbesFielder,  look forward to this day for all of the time they invest into the team between games and yes even blogging about it. A simple one on one from a player or coach could mean alot.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:23 AM

There were at least 10 players signing autographs for more than 30 minutes prior to the game.  In fact, most of them started signing around 12 noon along the 3rd base line.

Cajun Thunder wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:28 AM

The Dodgers aren't in the habit of getting rid of young players without a reason. This concerned me when we were talking about the possibility of a Jack Wilson trade to the Dodgers. Now it's being reinforced by the lack of performance by Andy LaRoche. I hope I am eventually proven wrong...but it doesn't look good at this point.

With Pedro Alvarez about to come into the fold...if someone makes a good offer for Andy LaRoche...I seriously would consider listening.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:31 AM

Morning Links are a little later than usual.  I know this because I usually make it to bed by now.  DK!!!!  

Im kidding around.  Have to give you a hard time, you'll be in hibernation soon.  :o)

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:33 AM

Had we held on to Bautista or Wigginton, we'd have some production at third at least.  Wigginton had 22 homers, last time I checked.

jersey joe wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:35 AM

Whiners, let me explain something, fans build a respect and liking to theiir team members.  On this team there are mnay nice folks Adam, his charity work.  Freddy his charity work  the list goes on and on.

There are players on this team who do hustle who do have good work ethics who like the fans.  It teacher=s our children a lot by showing the respect for the effert put in by saying thanks.

Perceprion is percieved, so no need to dribble about lack of this from your eyes etc.etc.

I do not get it, to whine about this is just whining.

I left early because my grandboys had enough for their first game.  I would have loved to get them down on the field.

you must have missed this converstion or i would have heard about it.

After a pirate game at forbes filed Al McBean lifted me down into the pirate bullpen for autographs, 45 or so years ago and I can still feel his lifting me to the ground.  and you would begrudge a fan of a memory like that, your whining has gone too far.  

its not like your aunt moving away forever like you said it is just saying thanks for your entertainment.  lighten up.

Dejan Kovacevic wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:41 AM

Give me a break on the links!

I kid, but it's going to take a little bit. Just got back to the hotel and haven't eaten anything since ... I don't remember.

It will take a bit.

bucsfancents80 wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:46 AM

Hey at least I got a reaction.  Enjoy something good to eat!

I'll catch up later today.

Nite DK.

Baywatch wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:50 AM

PI - Looks like JL may have gotten you pretty up-to-date on Hermansen.  I Googled for 10 pages, and the closest I could see of his activity in 2008 was that he was a non-roster invitee to the LA Angels spring training camp.

I also did a phone search for him, and it looks like our Chad is living in Henderson, Nevada. JL, know where that is?

PI Stingray wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 2:10 AM

@JL & Bay; Thanks for the info, thought he might be doing something besides baseball.....Once it gets in your blood, I guess it's hard to get it out of your system! Hopefully Lil LaR will work out better than Chad.....

BillyKidd wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 2:13 AM

Hey Bay! How were the wars? You missed a doozie last night..I think PF's homer is still traveling through space somewhere....The FAA called and wanted to know why a flight plan was not filed.

BillyKidd wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 2:17 AM

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Ants Marching!! in Quick Step Hup 2 Hup 2 Hup 2

Thanks PBC Blog.

jersey joe wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 2:28 AM

Billy and Bay, I never knew ants marched in platoon formation.

A little down time info.  as an MP at Ft. Ord so long ago, I detained general Omar Bradley for thirty minutes one saturday morning.  

I am still all for these trades.  I am also now for signing those two pichers everyone wanted to be sighned instead of the trades.  We have the bucs, put two vewterans on this squad and you will get improvement up and down.  

johnnyblaze wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 2:30 AM

Since you skipped it DK, I'll post the no. 1 (b/c I can't remember what number we're on) thing that makes Pittsburgh great: the fans. I can't imagine any baseball blog in the country that could have this following considering the plight of the team. We're *** when the servers are slow because we can't get up to date news on our team; we sign on at midnight just to check the morning links before we go to bed; We want you to set up a month's worth of timed releases just so we'll have something to talk about while you're on vacation. We are the definition of "fans".

Baywatch wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 2:38 AM

jersey joe - Hey, Hey buddy! The Magic Karstens Ride ... OK, I'll do what I can to find an e-mail from Lanny, though it looks like Karsty had his last start for the season ... Happy to see him do well ... and Pearce's dinger.

I wonder if ol' Jeffrey sings that to all his female conquests:

"Well, you don't know what we can find. Why don't you come with me little girl on a Magic Karstens Ride!"

Baywatch wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 2:48 AM

I thought we were all marching ... nobody's on the other channel yet!

aglebagel wrote re: Pirates Q&A: Andy Hermansen?
on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:28 PM

I knew Chad Hermansen personally when he was in the 'Burgh, and I was VERY disappointed to see this tongue-in-cheek comment about him, which is completely untrue.  Just because a guy doesn't show that he's disappointed, it doesn't mean he isn't.  I think that Chad taking his failures so hard is what caused him to lose confidence and create a major-league mental block he couldn't get over.  By the way, if you ever see a guy in an authentic Hermansen jersey, that's me.  It came from his locker and I still wear it often.

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on Wed, Sep 24 2008 1:32 PM

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