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Morning links: Grabow gets it done

By Dejan Kovacevic | 12:30 a.m. Sunday

I am negligent, over four years on this beat, of not writing enough about John Grabow.

On those occasions when he has given up a key home run, you can expect to read quotes from him. (He always will make himself available.) And, every once in a while, when he has an outing like the one last night -- one batter, one out, two men stranded, inning over -- he will get the kind of parenthetical mention I used in this morning's gamer.

Not good enough.

Stepping back for a moment, Grabow now has inherited 33 runners and allowed eight of them to score. In a sport filled with an increasing amount of statistics, the role of the middle reliever -- certainly the left-handed guy called on in tough situations -- can be singularly defined by that number. And few in the National League have been better at it than Grabow. Last year, the figure was 47 inherited, 17 scored. Since the end of June, he has been scored upon seven times in 32 appearances. He has a 2.88 ERA. Opponents are batting .215 against him.

He is also, in the intangible sense, one of the premier competitors on the team.

That is good enough.

Linkage to the general coverage ...

Pirates 6, Astros 4: Matt Capps' 20th save comes with an unusually large gathering for a late-September game. Sure, they came mostly for the band, but they seemed to appreciate the ninth inning.

Opinion: Columnist Bob Smizik suggests "Come watch history!" as the Pirates' 2009 marketing slogan.

Notebook: Jack Wilson did get a warm ovation as he pinch-hit last night for the first time in nearly a month, but those people seemed to miss out on the meaning. That will not happen if Wilson gets an at-bat this afternoon. Also, Frank Coonelly promises no sequel to the Fan Appreciation Day debacle of 2007.

Power rankings: Paul Meyer's comment next to the local club's position sums it up nicely.

And from other realms ...

From the team's official site, watch Ryan Doumit's swing on this two-run double last night. Has a little Brian Giles to it.

This will surprise no one, but ESPN's Jim Caple calls PNC Park the best sporting venue anywhere in the United States. And he offers this explanation: "Because a team that gets almost everything else wrong got everything right with this, the finest sports facility in the country. Because it is the perfect blend of architecture and environment."

A New York Times piece about Yankee Stadium illustrates the passion that many in the Bronx have had over the years for the Pirates because of No. 21. Thanks to old friend Ian DeArdo, who once gave me a full-day tour of London despite having known me only through the Q&A forum.

Bud Selig takes out a full-page ad in the Houston Chronicle to explain Major League Baseball's controversial decision to move those two home games against the Cubs to Milwaukee. But, with the Astros losing everywhere they go -- including here last night -- the complaints will ring increasingly hollow.

Bad day for Brian Moehler and the Astros, writes Brian McTaggart of the Chronicle.

In the blogosphere, Charlie Wilmoth at Bucs Dugout wonders why I -- and others -- did not cover the Nyjer Morgan/police thing the other night. I never speak for anyone else, but I have one very simple response for why I left it out of the paper:

It was not news.

1. There is almost no circumstance in which it reasonably can be considered news that someone gets pulled over for having tinted windows, then is not detained or arrested. On the police blotter for the City of Pittsburgh that day, if there were 728 incidents, that one surely ranked No. 728. On the list of crime stories published in the Post-Gazette that day, it would not have made the honorable-mention list. It was nothing.

2. Celebrity is a factor when making news judgments. Thus, I would argue that if one of the presidential candidates were pulled over in such a manner, for something that minor, it would qualify as news. Not a professional sports athlete. Not even a prominent one. To repeat, it was nothing.

3. I thought Russell Martin's remark regarding the police profiling was at least interesting enough to link to the L.A. Times' coverage solely for that purpose.

4. Morgan described himself as having lost his temper. He meant that he lost his cool or patience, in talking to him a couple times since then. Nothing happened. If Morgan actually had lost his temper with the police, there would have been quite the incident.

Finally, on a personal aside here that is semi-related, the local police have been far more visible along Federal and General Robinson streets after games, as anyone attending games regularly can attest. And they have been tough.

I was pulled over myself about a month ago on General Robinson. It was about 90 minutes after the game -- when I usually leave the stadium -- and the officer told me that I was swerving across the street's three lanes. I had no recollection of doing so but, being someone who obsessively checks text messages and other distracting fare, neither could I argue it much. He wanted to see if I was drinking, even though I told him I never had a drink in my life and felt I had demonstrated not only that I was coherent but also that I had just finished working at PNC. Even pulled out my Baseball Writers pass and my Post-Gazette ID.

Made no difference. He called for multiple backups, and my SUV suddenly was surrounded. I sat there for nearly a half-hour, with one of the backup policemen holding a flashlight in my direction the entire time, while they did a background check and asked me to tell my story again and again.

Was that newsworthy?

If I really did swerve or drive a little recklessly, then what I did probably was more egregious than the shading of Morgan's windows.

But would that same incident have been newsworthy, whether it was me or somebody a lot better known than me?

I respect Charlie's viewpoint on this and any matter, just as I acknowledge that there are some diehards who want every morsel they can get about their favorite team. But the judgment that is made at a newspaper relating to a police/crime story is made independent of sentiment like that.


Posted Sep 21 2008, 12:30 AM by Dejan Kovacevic
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Bizrow wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 12:46 AM

Nurse Ratchett just stopped by, she is much nicer since her lobotomy.

She noted that the PBC asylum wing is always much calmer when the PBC grabs a W.

I will not bogart this, but will pass it over to you.  A couple of thoughts...

09, there is hope, always hope, Moss is a keeper, and was listening to the radio today, starting depth will motivate and kick some fellows in the kahunas over the winter, a change in attitude and also motivation.

From an earlier comment on personal comments, keep it up, its what helps us inmates stay sane

Until my last breath, GO BUCS!!!!

These darn ants, they are all over the place

BadgerBuc wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 1:06 AM

Dejan,

Great to know you'll be in Milwaukee this week, as you've seemed to by-pass Bucco-Brewer match-ups at "The Keg" the past couple years.  I'm coming to thank Jack for all his uplifting, inspired play through the years when there wasn't much for which to be proud.  I know it's a tired topic, but MAYBE worth your latest assessment; is Sunday, September 21, 2008, Jumpin' Jack's last appearance at PNC in a Pirate uniform?   See ya Tuesday!

Baywatch wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 1:09 AM

DK - To me, it seems pretty bizarre that the Pittsburgh Police officer called for a backup after he pulled you over ... My goodness, I thought stuff like that only happened in little towns in Texas!

Catching up after being at work tonight ...

For a meaningless game, GREAT WIN!

From the game thread:

madturk2008 - AWESOME video of latter-year Johnny Cash. If that - and your new avatar - won't make me walk the line, nothing will.

jersey joe - Dude, I can't believe you saw Humble Pie in 1973 ... with or without Peter Frampton? I saw them around the same time frame, after Frampton left, in Charlotte, NC.

mazfromiowa - I can't remember all the details on your wager with Chicken on the Hill with Will, about Freddy and if he might walk again this year. Is it time to send the virtual pizza to Chickey?

BadgerBuc wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 1:20 AM

Dejan's remarks about Grabow remind me of a tiny sampling I got of the reliever while at a game September of last year in Milwaukee.  I sat in the RF bleacher section, first row above the Pirate bullpen.  While there was the usual fun and frivolity with the majority, including a couple just-called up guys (J. Perez, R. Sanchez come to mind), Grabow was pretty much off by himself throughout the game.  He spent time looking at charts, doing some intermittant stretching, and lightly tossing a ball against a wall.  His focus was unmistakeable.  That left an impression on me.  Even thoug that was just one game, one situation, Grabow showed how, as DK mentioned, he is one of the "premier competitors on the team."

BattlinBucs wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 1:23 AM

I agree on the great win.  I'm happy because it was my boss's 5 year old daughter's first game, so hopefully she had fun and will want to attend more.  I'd like to see at least the real young generation get to see a winning product on the field.  

In regards to Grabow, when someone is so good consistently over years it tends to lose its luster, sadly (see Albert Pujols MVP).  He has come into tough situations many times for our PBC and more times than not bailed them out.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 2:11 AM

In the Notebook piece on Jack Wilson, the second to last paragraph quote from him says it all about what a loss we are about to take. He has been such a pleasure to watch, such a stand-up man to always talk to the media and always be so genial during all this losing. Though I would be delighted if he could stay, the biggest part of me now wants to see him go so that he can enjoy winning during his career. More than Bay, more than Nady, Jack deserves to now have his day in the sun

"...remembering certain plays, some fun we've had. You always think about the positive. I'm that kind of guy. Regardless of the record or good years or bad years, I've had a really good time here. I've loved playing in Pittsburgh, and I've loved living here and raising my kids here."  -Jack Wilson

No go, Jack, and make us proud.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 3:31 AM

Feeling better, sorry could not resist.

On what may be his last game in a PBC uniform at PNC park.

Jack Wilson,

A player that maybe lost,

A friend and fond memories gained for a lifetime.

Thank you friend, the pleasure has been all ours.

jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 3:35 AM

Baywatch, Peter Frampton was live and on stage.

Since its laste I will add this, or early,  1976 at the oakland collosium I saw hot tuna gary wright fleetwood mac and peter frampton do you feel like I...

Grandkid kept me busy all yesterday so I missed most of the game and for sure the ninth.  I was just hoping  for hoping that we had that one in the bag.

Nice piece on John!

on moss, thanks to all for the nice links to stories on him.  I think Steve Blass first what I took as his thoughts on seeing moss that in a few years we will be saying, who did we trade for him.  Blass said the ball explodes off of his bat.

My pal who won the .500 wager for a fresh garden tomato has already telling fans we have a repeat wager for next year.   He did also admit that my preseason assesment was right and that even with just a medicore pitching staff we would have been over that mark easily.

I am still hoping to get to todays game would like to see the dorf, the grandboys did not want to go home last night so getting to the game depends on them going home, the little one is three, too bifg a crowd to take him since I would want to wacth some of the game.

As DK has pointed out, one thing to remember about tracy was his statement that if you see something one tiime in a guy--its in there.

This team as it stands is showing a rebound in scoring runs.  Not every day like earlier.  Which will lead me to a few thought changing  viewpoints about several players fior next year.

Thank you Jack.  I am not so convinced he will not be back.  unless someone goes down and someone deems it that they neadd a pretty good shortstop and will pay for it--I say he stays.  they are not going to unload him jus tto do it.  it would be suicide.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 3:40 AM

DK- After the game is over and the dust has settled at some point would you please post a Tribute/Thank you JW thread?

Just erring on the side of safe. I think we would like him to know how we feel before he may leave.

Please.

jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 3:43 AM

Billy, nice words about Jack.  He difinetly ranks in the catagory of alltime flavorite Buccos.  He is in that elite group of a true love every minte of every game pro.

Maybe my feelings on him not so sure he is going comes from the same spot it took me a week to accept that Roberto was actually gone.

trading him for anything less than a star pitcher or a teams best prospects would be like Franco going to seatlle.

JL, your hope for jack shows yours and our love of this guy.

PI Stingray wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 3:52 AM

Great piece on Grabo, DK. Also, Smizik with an article on the Bucs that actually makes sense! Hopefully the Pirates DO spend a few sheckles on mid-tier free agents that might work out like Lohse has with the Cards....

jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 4:09 AM

stingy,  I just did read Bobs words and he does make some valid points.  

Once bitten twice shy, though.  We have a litiny of going out on a branch too long to mention longer than the name bell.

i do think this group has a better talent viewpoint but can see nutting wanting to make sure with some results before he buys in to them whole hog.

Note this:  Bobs article states the team is wores off one year later, he does not say the organizational players top to bottom.

I hope he is not reading this becuase then next sunday oh my.

Top to bottom we are better than last year, and that does not include Pedro, who if as should be he becomes a Bucco he comes with the best outlook since Barry.  If pedro does not become a bucco then boris's dream of breaking the back of major league baseball has a bad end for all of us.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 5:20 AM

Though some on this forum might be loathe to admit it, PI Stingray and Jersey Joe correctly point out that Bob Smizik is right. There's always a piece, or two, to the puzzle that can be found in the FA market. The Pirates can't afford to not tap this resource. Of course, this goes along with better drafting, better player development, and retention of key players (McClouth, Doumit, AND DOUG MIENTKIEWICZ --you guys know me, had to say it).

JHadar wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 8:09 AM

JL et al -- Absolutely right, the FA market always produces a few affordable surprises.  Of course the problem is always recognizing and locating them; Lohse could also have been a Joe Randa or Jeromy Burnitz -- the kind of acquisition that most teams can afford to take a loss on, but for some reason the Bucs can't.  

Pitt Fans -- Thanks for not gloating, at least not here.  Great game though.

BK -- hope you're feeling better today.

DK -- driving and texting, not good.  We want to have you alive and healthy for next season.  Seems like city police do tend to make more out of small things than what they do out in the country.  

Keep Jack, Keep Doug.

sludgeworm wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 8:35 AM

hmmm....I thought we would get a Skynyrd report from Sir Dejan...

Won't you fly high, Free Bird, yeah....

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 8:42 AM

@JHadar

A 1 point win is not someting to gloat over.

In baseball sure, football no.  Pitt needs any win it can get...

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 8:49 AM

Can't make the game today, makes me sad in a way.

Hope the Pirates can score some runs in back to back games and make this home stand a fond memory for Jack if indeed he is traded over the winter. Hope to have him back though.  We do not have a shortstop that can replace him at this time.

Cruz does not have the range and Bixler needs to hit.

If they open the wallets for an FA or two I would like it to be somewhere else other than short.  Spending money on replacing something that we already have is stupid and does not improve the team (if you do that player better be better and here for a long term).  Keep what's good and spend where help is needed is how to improve.

And a good morning to you all.

jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 9:01 AM

Billy, one more day coser to feeling good and going home, keep the course.

JL wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 9:18 AM

Mad,

Right you are about how stupid it would be to deal Jack, just to then shop for another shortstop, who invariably would be inferior. If the baseball gods were to smile on us, the Regime would come to their senses and try to renegotiate an extention with Jack. But neither Jack, nor I for that matter, have faith in this happening. What Bob Smizik writes (and what I have believed and posted here ever since the Regime panicked and dealt Bay and Nady for prospects), is that SOME pitching be obtained through FA.

JHadar: yes, this route is not risk-free. But for that matter, neither is the draft (at which we have notoriously flopped for many years now), nor is dealing away our stars. The Pirates have nary a margin for error, but that's just all the more reason that no one method of obtaining talent can afford to be wasted. If management is to give up before they even try to see if they can find a piece or two to the puzzle in free agency --and I'm NOT saying that this was your point; I'm on my soapbox to everyone-- because they're afraid to take any risks, then we might as well consign ourselves to  losing forever. Even Tampa Bay went out and signed Cliff Floyd and Carlos Pena. In our case, we need a veteran pitche, or two. Not a Sabathia. But a Lohse. They're out there every year. We can ill afford a blunder (though if we survived Matt Morris, we can survive anything). But failure to try is not an option.

Cave Bonifield wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 9:53 AM

DK

In your game story you included Yates with those that provided scoreless relief. He gave up 2 runs.  

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 9:54 AM

@JL

I would say "failure to try is failure itself"

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 9:57 AM

@Baywatch

"madturk2008 - AWESOME video of latter-year Johnny Cash. If that - and your new avatar - won't make me walk the line, nothing will."

Anything to keep you in line and out of the tower.  That pic is how I feel about the end of the season.  Maybe we can add meat to the line-up and my bones next year.

madturk2008 wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 9:59 AM

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jersey joe wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 10:16 AM

JL,  rmember this about the new regime,  many speculate that the pedro problem came about not because of the late thing but because everyone around the world said the Buccos handed boris his self with respect to the pedro negotiatians.  

This was just not bloggers opinions but newspaper junkies around the place, tell him Billy,  thats the way it was.

Lets give it that.  Then we have to say that FCNH  hold their cards close to the vest.

I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt before throwing them under the bus.

They did not panick, we were not going anywheres with those three and given they could have made some move to shore up the mound and who knows what would have happened.

What they saw was a team maybe making .500 or a little

better, they chose much to your disliking to opt for a chance to imprve the organization

Delayed gratifcation

Believe you me I would have cherised a two pitcher pickup and made of run of it just as much as you.

There are too many sources out there sighting the quality of pickups that we need to give them a chance.  there are some who have written rthat we may have recieved as many as three top flight players in return and as many who will contribute at the major league level.

So, lets see what these guys do over the winter.

we are loaded with outfielders but not enough power there for many.  we could deal a center fielder and a first baseman and whatever to get a homerun guy in right or left.  or we could go the route of a thirdbaseman, but we have a few in the works there and pedro will be here by 2010 now that he screwed up next year.

Like I said I was all for your wishes at trading time  but now wonder where do we make a move.  I think dumping  a center fielder is the most likely choice. on the other hand there most agree that Moss is going to a 30 guy and if you move nate to left who do you dump then?

Your desires are that of all of ours, the trade was made, please expand on your thoughts to name and include now not before the trade your plans because I and others may be missing something, I do readily admit that I do not have the time to be up onm the league Fa's and other things but I and others can zero in once a suggestion is made to evaluate.

Good luck on helping us out

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 10:27 AM

To trade:

Unfortunately we may have to look at this the same way we "argued" about the departures of JBay, XMan, DMarte...We were not winning with them. Again unfortunately we are not winning with him. Statistically speaking he is having his worst season in the last 3 years. I think the biggest concern to me maybe the drop off in games played due to injury. We have all admitted (whether we believe it or not) that next year is a (another) rebuilding year. PBC has replaced 2 outfield spots, 3B, and quite possibly will replace a handful of the 5 pitchers. Maybe but doubtful AdLa may leave. So why not JW? PBC has at this point marginal SS's in Bixler and Cruz. If you trade JW for a prospect SS and or sign a FA SS you give Bixler and Cruz 1 more year to mature or not. If you keep Bixler and Cruz on the MLB roster they may bloom and it also gives the PBC time to shop for a quality SS. We have all but written 100 losses in the column for next year. Rebuild around another SS. Let JW try to finish his career in the bright lights like Bay, Nady,Marte. Of anyone on this roster I can think of no one more deserving.

BillyKidd wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 10:28 AM

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Ants Marching

mattenat wrote re: Morning links: Grabow gets it done
on Sun, Sep 21 2008 10:37 AM

As always, there's nerdy stats that can lend credence to an observed idea.  In this case, they do nothing but back up Dejan's assertion.  Fangraphs is a great site, for all sorts of stuff (be sure and check out the live win probability graphs next year) but one of the unique stats they keep is WPA.

Quoting the glossary:

WPA (win probability added): WPA is the difference in win expectancy (WE) between the start of the play and the end of the play. That difference is then credited/debited to the batter and the pitcher. Over the course of the season, each players’ WPA for individual plays is added up to get his season total WPA.

Here's the list of NL relievers this year in season WPA: http://tinyurl.com/4qt9cy.  Note Grabow in 4th place.