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Couple of Alvarez points here

By Dejan Kovacevic | 12:46 p.m. Friday

No news here, but I did want to make a couple of Pedro Alvarez points here ...

> Seems to be a lot of discussion in the comments about the possibility he could have an injury, and that could be the reason for all this grievance stuff. Four points here:

1. When I wrote a couple of weeks ago that a major league contract was unlikely, I mentioned that players getting such contracts are risky for teams unless they have a physical beforehand, in the context that Scott Boras does not allow his players to take such physicals. The reason the contracts are risky: Only players with minor league contracts can have contracts completely voided if there is some huge issue with the physical. Alvarez has a minor league contract.

2. The Pirates would have no issue with Alvarez if he had some injury that, over a reasonable period of time, would heal properly. Their only concern would be if it were career-threatening. That is a very common approach in these cases, and Alvarez -- and Scott Boras -- would know that. Going through all this other stuff to disguise a minor injury, hence, would make no sense.

3. Before the union filed a grievance, it surely would check something like this out.

4. By all accounts, Alvarez is completely healthy.

> This $200,000 figure continues to get cited as being the Boras asking price to make this all go away. I genuinely do not know where this originated, but I can offer three points here, too:

1. The Pirates and Boras have not discussed a number of any kind. Boras has let it be known that his preference would be to revisit the negotiations, but there is no number.

2. Why would he ask for just $200,000? His final asking price of the Pirates on the evening of Aug. 15 was $8.5 million. If he really thought he could reopen all of this, why shoot so low.

3. There is no number.

> I referred in the main piece this morning to Bob Nutting being embarrassed last summer by a "vocal fan protest" as a result of the Matt Wieters fiasco. I most definitely was not referring to the walkout of 100 or so people that one night at PNC. In fact, that never even crossed my mind until I got a couple of reader emails about it this morning. The reference was to the general backlash, which was loud and strong. If I had been referring to the walkout, I would not have used an adjective such as "vocal" if only because it was more demonstrative than vocal.

> Please do not print copyrighted material in the comments, whether they are password-protected or not. Links are fine, as are short excerpts.

 


Posted Aug 29 2008, 12:46 PM by Dejan Kovacevic

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Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Couple of Alvarez points here
on Fri, Aug 29 2008 1:23 PM

Is there any indication that Boras was complicit with the Union in filing the grievance, or did he merely jump in with both feet when the opportunity presented itself?

juan pizarro wrote re: Couple of Alvarez points here
on Fri, Aug 29 2008 1:31 PM

Dejan

the $200k figure came from an article here, from mlb; link: mlb.mlb.com/.../article.jsp

i agree that asking for $200k seem silly, but that's what was noted.

juan pizarro wrote re: Couple of Alvarez points here
on Fri, Aug 29 2008 1:38 PM

and how about some upbeat news about DD, from our other paper in town; link: www.pittsburghlive.com/.../s_585398.html

thegunner wrote re: Couple of Alvarez points here
on Fri, Aug 29 2008 1:43 PM

If the arbitrator rules that the contract is NOT valid because of the fact that it was signed after midnight and the extension was not agreed to by the MLBPA, I do not see how they can continue to negotiate.

I would think that Alvarez's name would simply go back into the 2009 draft.

Schrute Farms wrote re: Couple of Alvarez points here
on Fri, Aug 29 2008 1:53 PM

Juan Pizarro 1968 Topps -- one of my all-time favorites because of the two holes in his T-shirt's armpit.  I wonder if Juan would have been ok with $6 million?

steve.z wrote re: Couple of Alvarez points here
on Sat, Aug 30 2008 2:33 PM

To avoid any misunderstanding about last summers walkout and the fan protest in general:

The walkout was just a small part of the larger protest of which the Pirate Fans for Change folk were the leaders. The fact that the walkout was called, was made public beforehand, garnered significant publicity was a key feature of the outcry over the Moskos selection. In fact, it provided a focal point to the vocal -- written and oral -- protests while it also generated national publicity for the fan reaction.

Stephen Zielinski

www.iratefans.com