Jobs saved?

The Post-Gazette reported on the White House's contention that the stimulus "saved or created more than 1 million jobs" ("White House: Stimulus Saved Jobs," Oct. 31). While job creation is a customary government statistic, I don't recall prior administrations citing "jobs saved."

I certainly hope the stimulus allowed some to retain their jobs -- it was nearly $800 billion. But how does the president know how many jobs were saved? What's the basis for the claim?

Instead of reading about the effect of the stimulus, in the future I'd prefer to read an article in which the White House was forced to defend its dubious claims regarding "jobs saved."

JASON WEBB
Greenfield

 


Posted Nov 04 2009, 05:00 AM by Susan Mannella

Comments

peace wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 6:24 AM

Jason,

You must be new to Pittsburgh, let me clue you in....it is overwhelmingly liberal/democratic and the post gazette is its PR machine.  If you want to read something that is not advancing and praising the cause of the Obama/liberal agenda, I suggest you look to some publications in more progressive cities/regions of the country where the electorate base their choices on the progressive platforms of their candidates and not just the letter before their name.

Welcome to Pittsburgh....

myreply wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 7:00 AM

This admin. has to talk about "jobs saved" for the very fact that it is "dubious" and one can't disprove it.

They "can't" talk about jobs lost and new jobs for the simple fact that it's not dubious.  These facts can be proven.

Obama is Dubya.

DonF wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 8:26 AM

Obama is just like every other politician. He makes up numbers and spins things to his advantage. The thing that annoys me more about him is how he duped so many people into thinking he was all about "change". Remember all that stuff about transparency and putting bills online before they went thru and negotiations being televised on C-SPAN and no lobbyists in the White House? Just more broken promises, the same we have been getting from both parties for years.

myreply wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 9:10 AM

As I have said many times here - he is a politician first - no better, no worse - just the same.  History will tell the tale, like all other presidents.

my opinion wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:27 AM

myreply  Somethiing we can agree on 100%.  Well said.

Titan Lee wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 11:18 AM

I don't question any of those numbers.  They also showed since Obama became President:

# of volcanos erupting in Iowa:  Zero

# of earthquakes in Tennessee:  Zero

# of sightings of the Loch Ness Monster in Lake Erie:  Zero

All proven.  All facts.

my opinion wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 2:23 PM

titan Lee- well there you go, he is doing a fine job.

kurtsimmen wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 2:39 PM

Since nearly 30 years of "Trickle Down My Back and Tell Me It's Raining" economics have driven us to the brink of Hoovervilles and bread lines, I think it is fair to speculate on jobs saved by the responsible and appropriate actions taken by this administration.

DonF wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 3:45 PM

kurtsimmen - You are such a typical partisan hack. "We won, you lost..... I am a Democrat so Republicans like Reagan and Bush and Palin are bad.... Blah blah blah...." It's people like you who blindly support a party when all they do is use you. I will fully admit that the Republicans stabbed conservatives in the back, but I doubt you would ever have the intellectual honesty to admit that Obama has failed liberals in so many ways (not closing Gitmo, no transparency, lobbyists in the WH, no repealing of Don't Ask Don't Tell, handing billions of dollars out to huge coroporations, etc). Go ahead and keep being used - the Democrats and Republicans both love suckers like you.

my opinion wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 3:52 PM

kurtsimmen If I follow the logic in your post, because it rained last Tuesday and I went to bed late last night and did not have breakfast this morning, its ok for me to speculate and draw wild conclusions on unrelated topics.

You say the last 30 years of Trickle Down, but not true, we had 8 years of President Clinton in those 30 years.  And as you know he balanced the budget, no surplus. By the way, how did he do that?  My understanding is that Congress passes the budget, the president can just sign or veto or pocket veto.  Wow, I just remembered, Newt and gang were in charge of Congress at that time, Go figure.

kurtsimmen wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 4:12 PM

Don,

Help me out.  If you have some knowledge that I'm being used, please let me know how.

Please stop with the broken promises BS.  Personally I couldn't care less whether gitmo is closed or not but I will credit your spin meisters with doing a fine job of scaring the spit out of folks who are now convinced that even our supermax prisons (from which no one has ever escaped), could not possibly contain these mad dogs.  

As for transparency, This admin is a fishbowl compared to the last and I think that the fact that the health care debate has advanced as far as it has is proof in and of itself that lobbyists are now being pushed back against.

my opinion,

I'm never sure what you're talking about.

my opinion wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 6:19 PM

Kurtsimmen - "As for transparency, This admin is a fishbowl compared to the last and I think that the fact that the health care debate has advanced as far as it has is proof in and of itself that lobbyists are now being pushed back against.

Where do I find those bills online five days before he signs them? What time does C-SPAN show the healthcare negotiations and meetings? Is he pushing back against all lobbyists or just the ones not in his administration, wait, he won't have any in his administration, so they must not be there. He had all the news media in last week for "talks" ,no wait, only those he has in his pocket but not "FAUX". Healthcare, now because he is pushing back against the lobbyists or because it is a grab at controlling 1/6 of the economy?  I could go on, but you should get the picture by now.  

As far as President Bush not having an open administration, all you had to do was read the NY Times and you would have gotten almost every secret the adminstration had.

my opinion wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Wed, Nov 4 2009 8:56 PM

Kurtsimmen -

my opinion,

I'm never sure what you're talking about.

No doubt.

myreply wrote re: Jobs saved?
on Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:44 PM

Unemployment figure went over 10% nationally today.