Doubling up - 4-8-09

Yeah, but a lot of those pairs were linemates.  It's better to have two lines each with a 100 pt guy than an offense based mostly on Oates to Hull, for example.

Good point WilliamBeans. That's what impresses me the most about Sid & Geno, they accumulate a lot of their points away from each other.

Did Sakic and Forsberg play on the same line when they were putting up big numbers?

Seth, I figured I'd post this here, where it's most likely to get read.  You took a jab at Fleury last night for letting that puck sit there on the first goal.  Granted, he definitely misplayed it off of his stick, but I think you forgot that if he had played it when it was sitting there, he would have been penalized.  It wasn't in the trapezoid.

Actually, the statistics don't tell a different story. The statistics say these teams are better off.

Using the same metric, there have been 327 teams without 2+ 100 point scorers, those teams have won 18 cups or 5.5%.

I'd take my 16% chance over the 5.5% chance.

Furthermore, you look at 22 years and say that teams with 2+ 100 point scorers win the cup "only" 16% of the time. But only half of those years (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,96,99,06,07) had a team entered with 2+ 100 point scorers. In those 11 years, 4 times one of the teams with 2+ 100pt scorers won the cup (36%)...

So when one or more teams are in the playoffs with 2 scorers with 100+ pts one of them wins 36% of the time.

In your analysis it would be impossible to have 100% success, for example in 1987-88 there were 4 teams with 2+ 100 point scorers and only one of them could win.

or even simpler at the beginning of the year you have a 1/30 chance of winning (3%)...making the playoffs you have a 1/16 (6%) so still even though the 16% is an awkward stat it is better than 3% of 6%.

Any team with Hakan Loob should at least stand a chance.

Didn't Gretzky have a couple of 200 point seasons? It appears that is the true kiss of death...having someone score SOOO often obviously angers the keepers of karma and prevents you from even entering the playoffs.

Seth, correct me if I am wrong here, but I believe the 2005-06 Senators lost in the second round to the Buffalo Sabres.  The Conference Final that year was the Sabres-Hurricanes, with the Hurricanes moving on and winning the Stanley Cup over the miracle Oilers.  

Seth, what is the email address that you use to receive pictures? I've looked around the site for a while and can't track down where its at. I have some good pics from Tampa last night.  

Seth, nice SF2 reference... I never had the pleasure (?) of participating in a SF2 tourney (mostly because I believe fighters are the bane of my existence), let alone stuck with Chun Li.

I always preferred Mortal Kombat to Street Fighter.

according to this, all we gotta do is make the finals, and the Cup's ours.

once again, like mentioned above, increasing our odds, as we only have to win three rounds :P

Was Paul Stastny even born in 1987?  111 points is an impressive feat for an infant.  Not to shabby for a 30-something year old Peter Stastny either.

Interesting analysis and good comments!

Am I the only one who had a hard time looking past the 1992-1993 and 1995-1996 Penguins teams on this list?  Those were two of the finest teams ever on the ice in Pittsburgh and they both lost to teams that they would probably beat 80% of the time in a seven-game series.  The 1996 finals would have been sick between the Avs and Pens; instead we got a sweep.

'92-'93 team was the best in franchise history. Tragic ending though...

The '95-'96 team doesn't belong in the same conversation as the '92-'93 team or any of the Cup teams.  Although they were an offensive juggernaut, their defensive corps was below average at best.  Behind Sergei Zubov (who would be run out of town shortly thereafter) they were manned by a bunch of rejects and retreads like Chris Joseph, JJ Daigneault, Francois LeRoux, Dmitri Mironov, Chris Tamer, Stefan Bergkvist, Corey Foster and Brad Lauer.  That being said, they won their division and were probably a broken foot away from the finals.  That series would have been a lot of fun.

92-93 with four players with 100 points or more.  Unbelievable.  

We'll be lucky to have four players LEAGUE WIDE with 100 points or more...

@Revo - strong work.  thanks.

putting the #s in context as you do makes for a more insightful analysis.

@DG...ouch.

that Zubov trade still haunts.

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