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Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09

PREGAME

-Greetings from drizzly Pittsburgh. We're officially convinced Pittsburgh has the worst weather in the world.

-Right off the bat we're reminded the Penguins' dads are on the trip.

-Paul Alexander reminds us the Staals are brothers as well.

-Dany Sabourin gets the start? Interesting.

-Andrew Raycroft gets the nod for Colorado.

-Alex Goligoski, Pascal Dupuis and Mark Eaton are the Penguin's scratches.

-Can anyone tell us what exactly Philippe Boucher has done as of late to earn playing time?

-Ian Laperriere, Ben Guite and Kyle Cumskey are Colorado's scratches.

-Maxime Talbot looking pretty clean-shaven:

 FIRST PERIOD

19:26: John-Michael Liles pushes a backhander on net. Sabourin kicks it out.

18:49: Raycroft fights off a shot by Ryan Whitney with his shoulder.

18:15:  Marek Svatos blasts a slapper from the right wingers

15:46: Wojtek Wolski grabs a turnover in the slot and directs a shot on net. Sabourin eats it up.

18:05: Maxime Talbot is denied in by Raycroft.

16:53: A shot by Tyler Arnason is knocked away by Sabourin's blocker.

15:07: Evgeni Malkin dishes a pass to Sykora. Sykora blasts a slapper form the slot. Raycroft is in perfect position for the save.

14:56: T.J. Hensik clangs a blast off the post.

13:58: Arnason chips a puck towards the net. Sabourin is there to nab it.

13:48: Bob Errey sort of makes fun of Joe Sakic for his snowblower mishap. What the heck?

13:35: Chris Minard takes shot on net after the whistle. The Avalanche players take exception. A small scrum ensues.

12:45: A slapper by Kennedy is blocked by Brett Clark.

12:33: Sabourin knocks a away a slapper.

12:04: Tucker blasts a slapper wide of the cage from the right wing.

9:16: Well that's pretty much par for the course with the Penguins. A lucky bounce works against them. Milan Hejduk enters the offensive zone and dishes a pass to Wolski trailing. With Ryan Smythe charging towards the front of the cage, Wolski blasts a slapper. It appears to hit off either Smyth or Orpik and beats Sabourin. Give Smyth credit for causing that goal doing what he does best. Either way, Smyth gets credit for the goal. Wolski and Hejduk get assists. "Hey Song." Avalanche 1-0.

7:18: Hejduk slides a shot wide of the net.

6:59: Sabourin covers up a shot by David Jones from the right wing.

6:12: The Avalanche is called for too many men on the ice. Darcy Tucker will serve the penalty.

5:13: Clark comes up ice and blasts a slapper on net. Sabourin gloves it. Clark was offsides either way.

4:18: Whoa look at that. A power play goal. A pretty nifty one at that. Crosby controls the puck on the left wing and zips a pass through the slot to Malkin who hammers a perfect shot by Raycroft's left foot. An inch to the left or right that's not a goal. Crosby and Orpik get assists. Avalanche 1, Penguins 1.

3:05: A shot by Sykora deflects into the netting.

2:33: Wolski is denied by Sabourin on a big chance.

2:28: Sabourin covers a loose puck.

2:01: Raycroft gloves a puck on net.

1:19: Boucher makes a fine play and blocks a shot by Jordan Leopold.

0:52: Hal Gill whips a wrister on net from the right point. It gets deflected away.

0:06: Paul Steigerwald says Ryan Smyth reminds him of a bigger version of Colby Armstrong. Yeah, minus the 40-goal potential. We guess their noses are kind of similar though:

-Both of those shnozes would break Ruslan Fedotenko's hand.

0:00: End of period. Avalanche 1, Penguins 1.

FIRST INTERMISSION

-Apologies if the updates are little slow or clunky today. We' having some wireless connection issues.

-These new "Great Day for Hockey" commercials are pretty lame. The ones with the groom at his wedding and the girl in her bedroom. We'll take the Clarks ruining our ears over these bland lifeless things.

-That was a pretty even period for the most part. The goal the Penguins gave up wasn't anything terrible. Ryan Smyth has scored countless goals like that in his career against far better teams.

-Sabourin has been solid. The goal wasn't his fault. Just a nice play by Colorado. We like Sabourin in spurts. He's a guy just seems to do better when he's running off adrenaline. But if he has to put together a long stretch, he tends to wear out.

-The Avalanche has a 15-8 lead in shots.

-Wojtek Wolski leads the game with four.

-Malkin leads the Penguins with two.

-The Penguins have a 12-11 edge in faceoffs.

-Jordan Staal is 4-for-6 (67 percent).

-Philippe Dupuis is 2-for-3 (67 percent).

-Liles leads the game with 9:08 of ice time.

-Whitney leads the Penguins with 8:20.

-The Penguins' dads are on the trip.

-Clark and Kris Letang lead the game with two blocked shots.

-Brooks Orpik with the black crazy eyes:

-Bob Errey and Paul Steigerwald talk up Philippe Boucher's play during the first period. We can't argue with them.

SECOND PERIOD

19:49: Hensick whips a shot on net from the right wing. Sabourin kicks it out.

19:27: Letang appears to gets a high stick in the face. No call.

19:22: Miroslav Satan fires a shot which gets deflected into the netting.

18:18: Sabourin covers a loose puck that slides toward the net.

18:15: Right off the faceoff, Clark has a shot blocked by Matt Cooke.

17:54: Sabourin misplays a puck behind the net and it bites him. David Jones steals the pass and forces it in front of the net. Liles steps and puts a wrister on net. Sabourin kicks it out but gives up a rebound. Jones is right there to punch it in. Pin that one on Sabourin. Liles and Cody McLeod get assists. "Hey Song." Avalanche 2-1.

17:29: Boucher blasts slapper on net but no dice.

17:25: The ever dangerous Rob Scuderi gets a chance but shoots wide.

15:50: The Avalanche have a few chances in net with Sabourin scrambling but can't punch it in. The Penguins dodged a bullet there.

14:09: Dustin Jeffrey drives a shot on net from the left wing. Raycroft knocks it down and shuffles it away.

14:05: Boucher gets to the puck and puts it on net. Raycroft covers it.

12:06: Liles tries to hit Tucker with a pass to spring him loose on a breakaway. Tucker can't take the pass cleanly.

11:28: We probably should've made a mention of this in our preview, but Cody McLeod is one of our favorite players for something he did during the playoffs last year. Before a game in Detroit, someone threw an octopus on the ice during the national anthem. Well that didn't sit too well with McLeod who picked it up with his bare hand, skated towards the benches, threatened the Red Wings with it and whipped that sucker back into the stands:

11:16: Just as Dan Potash finishes talking to to Matt Cooke's father in law (and before we can come up with a joke about that), Crosby strikes. He hits Malkin with a pass on the right wing in the neutral zone. Malkin carries it into the Avalanche's zone and zips a pass through the slot right back to Crosby on the left wing. WIth Talbot driving to the net taking Scott Hannan with him, Crosby moves in and sneaks a wrister by Raycroft. What a pretty play. Crosby and Malkin should just hit each other with cross-ice passes the rest of the season and the Penguins will be fine. Malkin and Talbot get assists. Avalanche 2, Penguins 2.

9:27: What in the world was that? Smyth enters the offensive zone and leaves a drop pass for Wolski. Wolski picks it up and drives to the net uncontested. With Orpik tied up with an Avalanche player right in front, Wolski attacks and puts a nifty shot by Sabourin. There was a pretty big defensive breakdown there. Smyth gets the only assist. "Hey Song." Avalanche 3-2.

6:31: Tyler Kennedy tries to hit Arnason behind the net but Arnason dodges him. Lots of nothing going on after that third Colorado goal.

5:48: A Colorado player puts a shot from in tight off the goal post. Everyone including the goal horn guy is fooled. Players put their hands up and the horn goes off for a moment before everyone realizes play is still going on.

5:38: Boucher dumps Philippe Dupuis behind the net. Dupuis is slow to get up.

5:21: Leopold takes a pass at the left point and drives a slapper on net. McLeod is right there in front and tips it by Sabourin. That goal was the result of hard work by Colorado. The Avalanche just controled the puck in the corners and along the boards. Liles and Daniel Tjarnqvist get assists. "Hey Song." Avalanche 4-2.

4:13: Svatos is denied by Sabourin.

4:02: Satan whips a backhander on net from the right wing. Raycroft pushes it out.

3:46: Sabourin kicks out a shot by Tjarnqvist.

2:57: Off a steal, Crosby dishes a feed to Malkin who is denied in tight by Raycroft.

2:21: Raycroft gloves a shot by Whitney.

1:35: Svatos jumps on a loose puck in tight. He pushes a shot which Sabourin denies.

1:01: Errey mentions that Matt Cooke retreated to the Penguins' locker room

0:16: Ruslan Salei chips a shot wide of the cage.

0:00: End of period. Avalanche 4-2.

SECOND INTERMISSION

-The Penguins' defense was just terrible that period. There's really nothing more to say other than that.

-Letang and Scuderi have been adequate but the other four defensemen - Orpik, Whitney, Gill and especially Boucher - have been lost near their own net.

-Colorado has a 25-17 lead in shots.

-Wolski leads the game with six.

-Malkin leads the Penguins with three.

-Colorado has a 24-18 lead in faceoffs.

-Hensik is 8-for-11 (73 percent).

-Staal is 6-for-11 (55 percent).

-Scott Hannan leads the game with 17:29 of ice time.

-Whitney leads the Penguins with 16:18.

-Explain this to us. Letang (10:34) has the least ice time of all the Penguins' blue liner.

-Scuderi and Tjarnqvist lead the game with four blocked shots.

-We're officially blaming the Lenhart family for the Penguins' struggles.

-Steigerwald is uh... really hopefull, to be kind when he explains that the Avalanche haven't blown a third period lead this season and then explains "they're due to do it."

-Is it too early to declare Philippe Boucher the new Marc Bergevin?

-Marc-Andre Fleury replaces Sabourin. Truth be told, Fleury should've probably been in there to start. Sabourin should not have been given a chance because his dad is along for the trip. This isn't

THIRD PERIOD

18:13: Hensick comes down the left wing and pushes a wrister on net. Fleury fights it off.

17:09: After a little hard work from Chris Minard and Tim Wallace, Raycroft gloves a loose puck.

16:33: The Avalanche is pretty much just sitting on its lead. It's barely pressing the issue on offense.

16:10: Sykora comes up the middle of the ice and whips a wrister on net. Raycroft gloves it.

15:46: Liles drives a slapper on net from the left point. Fleury fights it off.

14:48: Orpik and Hejduk have a car wreck in the neutral zone.

13:40: Fleury covers a puck that slides towards the net.

13:19: Jones chips a puck on net on a bit of a wraparound.

13:11: The officials call Cooke for cross checking. It's a good call, but there has been worse let go today.

12:23: Wow! Steigerwald's psychic! He steals a puck inside his blueline, works it up the left wing, crosses up with Crosby and moves into the slot. He pulls back and rips a beauty of a rising wrister by Raycroft high on the glove side. Right before he shot it, Steigerwald said, "Here's come that shorthanded goal." Wow. The goal is unassisted. It's nice to see Staal do that once again. Avalanche 4-3.

11:32: Almost immediately, the Avalanche squashes all the Penguins' momentum. Svatos whips a shot on net from in tight. Fleury makes the save but can't control it. It bounces around a bit before Jones punches it in behind Fleury. Whitney and Orpik looked pretty useless on that play. Arnason and Svatos get assists. "Hey Song." Avalanche 5-3.

10:33: Malkin tries to feed a pass to Crosby in the slot but they can't connect.

10:20: Crosby chips a pass to Malkin o the right wing. He hammers a shot just wide of the cage. He had Raycroft beat too.

7:24: Satan chips a backhander on net which Raycroft appears to kick out.

6:29: Scuderi appears to get away with hook or even interference on Jones. Why did the officials even show up today?

5:46: Boucher fires a quick slapper from the right point. A Colorado player blocks it partially with his stick. Raycroft covers the rebound.

4:04: Staal moves into the slot with the puck. He forces a pass which is broken up.

3:16: Letang takes a chance with a pass from near his goal into the neutral zone. Wolski steals it and moves up ice. Before he can do anything, Letang breaks it up.

2:30: Malkin steals a puck in the offensive zone and moves with some speed towards the net. Instead of taking the clean shot, he forces a pass to Crosby which gets broken up. SHOOOOOOOT!

2:05: Crosby dishes a pass to Boucher. Boucher loses it. Steigerwald begins to openly chuckle at the Penguins' insistence on passing.

1:15: Fleury is pulled for an extra attacker.

0:54: Malkin tosses puck on net from the left point. It's wide.

0:31: A shot by Malkin is deflected out of play.

1:56: Orpik knows what to do with the puck and blasts a slapper from the top of the slot. Raycroft eats it up.

0:04: Boucher touches up an iced puck. Why is Boucher on the ice this late?

0:00: End of game. Avalanche 5, Penguins 3.

POSTGAME

-When Michel Therrien inherited this team back in 2005-06, he took over a team with a "soff" defense. And he cemented a certain following when he lambasted that crew of blue liners with what was an epic meltdown in these parts:

-From that moment on, we knew what Therrien was all about. He wanted steady responsible, physical defenders in front of his cage. If nothing else, you could respect Therrien's desire to have guys in front of his net who took care of business.

-Today's defense recalled the days of RIc Jackman and Dick Tarnstrom. It was in Therrien's words, soff. Colorado players have free reighn in front of Sabourin and Fleury and didn't face a lot of resistance from the Penguins' blue liners.

-Ryan Whitney once again led the Penguins in ice time with 27:10 of ice time. Since his return from foot surgery, he's routinely led the team in ice time which is a mistake in our book. He's being stuck into the lineup against guys who have a 2 1/2 month head start on him in terms of play. One game of a rehab stint with Wilkes-Barre/Scranton isn't enough preparation for him to start playing No. 1 minutes.

-Regardless of his health or conditioning, Whitney has been a big part of the Penguins' slide.

-Orpik played what might've been his worst game of the season.

-Our opinion of Boucher has been well documented.

-We're convinced something is still wrong with Hal Gill. He's just not as aggresive as he used to be prior to his injury.

-Letang and Scuderi were OK today but nothing spectacular.

-The treatment of Alex Goligoski has been baffling to put it mildly. His only action as of late has been as a forward. We just can't understand why he's not playing over the likes of Boucher.

-Perhaps the most discouraging part of today's setback was the relative lack of urgency after Colorado's fifth goal. If that's not a sign of a team which has given up on its coach, we don't know what is.

-The lack of depth today for the Penguins was pretty evident when you examine Colorado's roster. The Avalanche is dealing without some significant players such as Joe Sakic and Paul Stastny and Adam Foote. Players like David Jones, Cody McLeod and Tyler Arnason were able to step in and provide some offense.

-Colorado had a 32-24 lead in shots.

-Wolski led the game with six shots.

-Malkin led the Penguins with four.

-Colorado had a 25-22 lead in faceoffs.

-Hensick ripped up the faceoff circle going 12-for-15 (80 percent).

-Staal was the Penguins' best going 7-for-9 (44 percent).

-Hannan led Colorado with 26:31 of ice time.

-Scuderi led the game with five blocked shots.

-Tjarnqvist led Colorado with three.

-Kind of hard to complain about the power play today. It didn't get many chances and it was 1-for-1.

-Is it too early to start typing up "The Departed - Michel Therrien?"

-Crosby moved past Alex Kovalev for 14th place on the team's all-time scoring list. Crosby has 349 points to Kovalev's 347.

-Since Steigerwald made about 32 David Jones/Davey Jones references:

-Game summary.

-Event summary.

-Highlights.


Posted Jan 10 2009, 03:08 PM by Seth Rorabaugh

Comments

LordStanley wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:20 PM

Afternoon Seth...

We here in Wisconsin challenge your assertion of 'worst weather in the world'.....

In your opinion, who has had the worst of it for injuries, Pens or Avs?

Bones wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:25 PM

I like the upper Midwest weather.

Boucher playing while Goligoski sits in the press box baffles me...

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:35 PM

Lazy D on the goal - Malkin waved at the guy going to the net, D was backed way off - whatever happened to standing guys up at the blue line?    Crosby appears disinterested - is it me, or is he skating with his stick in the air in the defensive zone a lot?   Maybe I'm just recalling Pierre "I don't play below my blue line" Larouche ......

Corse66 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:36 PM

Damn.. Jones has a hell of blazing speed..;

Score 0-1 is logic so far, the avs pretty much dominated but they took a stupid penalty

Well Malkin just scores on the PP!!!

1-1 !!

LordStanley wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:37 PM

Great pass from Sid.

I love it how just when I'm screaming about PP ineptitude they score... guess I need to complain more...

LordStanley wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:41 PM

WDS001...

was JUST telling my daughter how the D needs to stand up guys at the blue line. Its one of the things thats been driving me crazy.

LordStanley wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:45 PM

and another thing... is it me or has the ability to pass tape to tape becoming a lost skill with this team?

Corse66 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:52 PM

@LordStanley : you're right I was thinkink the same, there's some "easy" (i.e for a professional player) pass that just went wide...

Brando wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:05 PM

18:07.....Avs announcers inform us that Jordan Staal has brothers.  Word is spreading...

Corse66 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:07 PM

How on earth can the avs not score a third goal on that chance at 15:40 ...??

a Habay wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:11 PM

I just got home from work put my jersey on and turned on the game.  The first thing I see, Boucher get pushed away from the front of the night like a shopping cart and the Avs score.  Why is he playing over Goligoski?  How can idiot give him that much ice time?

Corse66 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:14 PM

Crosby!!!!!!  2-2 !!! On a feed from Geno...

They look like they are really connected tonight !

LordStanley wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:17 PM

Brando -LOL- Brothers? where???

On Sid's goal that's one of the few times lately that the Pens gained the zone cleanly.

saneman wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:27 PM

Geez, Whitney is horrible How many games does it take for Whitney to get rid of the rust? He is the second highest paid defenseman on the team. That 3rd goal was because Whitney could not even take an easy pass from Crosby in the defensive zone. Whitney is not even playing well offensively. Idiot THerrien drove Sydor from the team and now idiot Therrien play Boucher over Alex Goligoski. And even when Alex G. plays, Whitney is playing on the PP instead of him. Whintey has been horrible on the PP.

Manntr01 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:30 PM

As if we weren't aware that the Dads are on this trip, I got the little segment during the first intermission on my camera.  Here's the link: www.youtube.com/watch

saneman wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:35 PM

I meant Whitney messed up on that pass from Crosby inthe offensive zone. And it must be nice to be Stall. He isnt even playing his 3rd line role that well lately. Must be nice to be a mediocre offensive player with "potential" and make as much as Hines Ward is at the peak of his career in a much higher revenue sport.

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Bones wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:41 PM

Demoralizing...

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:46 PM

"By the Numbers" for 2 periods doesn't even report hits - maybe that's because there haven't been any in this game?   I ask you, "WWGRD"?   Man, are they missing the grit or what?

I may actually have to watch the Titans/Ravens game and see if Ray Ray's parole officer let him play today ....

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 4:50 PM

I would say that after the upcoming loss Tuesday @ Philly (which could be UGLY), they have 5 straight at home and maybe a chance to turn this around.  But then, they can't play at home either.    Will HCMT survive January?   Can we play the Islanders and Thrashers every other game?  

a Habay wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:04 PM

The Avs broadcast just interviewed Jordan's dad and reminded us all that 3 play in the NHL and one plays in juniors, and says  "I bet you watch a lot of hockey"  Really?

Lauren wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:05 PM

Oh wow, good call by Errey... nice shorthanded goal by Staal! Hmm...

a Habay wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:07 PM

did the defense forget how to clear out the front of the net...This is pathetic!!!

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:11 PM

Errey just said it - there's no "house of pain" in front of the Pens net - too much reaching, too much standing around spectating .......... No one wants to play D.    Is Dick Lebow available?

Bones wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:23 PM

Miro Satan is the worst FA signing ever. Worst than Vladimir Vujtek. Send him down and hope someone claims him.

Matt Gajtka wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:30 PM

At least Sid and Geno looked like their usual dominant selves today. Other than that, the defense was SOFFFFF.

Leave MT, Yeo and Savard's corpse at the airport.

mshaffer wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:32 PM

I wouldn't bash Boucher too much.  He's not the only d-man who isn't performing.  If you want to bash a d-man for not peforming, how about the over rated Whitney?  Actually, to pick out just one d-man to bash right now is just ridiculous.

Purple Moose wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:42 PM

How can HCMT make it through the weekend, it's obvious this team has quit on him and he can no longer motivate them to play hard.

- They call scoring wingers up from WBS and he doesn't play them

- The Power Play is worse than bad

- Nobody on the team seems to have a role or know their role

- The defenseman are officially in disaray

- The players seem to be tired of his negativity

- Word is that he crushes Fleury's confidence

- No hitting, no hustling

Matt Gajtka wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:44 PM

Right on, Purple Moose. Agreed on all counts.

The verdict is GUILTY.

Bones wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:45 PM

Scratch Shanahan off the wish list.

Boarding Major wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:53 PM

You guys comenting on the "D" have probably never played the game.  Whitney, albeit not at the top of his game, was one of the best defenders on the ice, he and Letang.  There's a simple solution for them, and the announcers have mentioned it a few rare times in the last month or so:  they are not clearing out the crease!  No wonder our goalies have inflated goals against!  Yes, they are not sharp now either, but the guys have got to CLEAR THE CREASE!  Even Mites hockey players know that!  

I'm betting that at least three players will be gone by the trade deadline:  Staal, Satan and a defenseman (Eaton, Boucher, take your pick.)  Perhaps that way, we can get the high flying, high-scoring winger for Sid so that we can get Malkin off that line.  Having three highly paid centers was stupid.  They know it now, and they'll fix the problem.

And Seth - 5 minutes into the 2nd period, Steigy and Errey commented on David Jones of the Avs has the same name as the guy that was part of The Monkees.  (This after referring to the guy as Randy Jones!)

Matt Gajtka wrote re: Penguins at Avalanche - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:59 PM

Boarding Major, there have been so many goals scored against the Pens lately from within 10 feet of the net, and usually off a scramble. They need another guy like Gill who doesn't care and just starts putting people on their butts in situations like that. You nailed it on the head.

CrashKelly wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 6:20 PM

Does anyone know if there's snow at 7 Springs?

Bones wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 6:24 PM

Might be time to seriously consider a change behind the bench. I hate being one of those fans that calls for a coaching change, but we are quickly falling out of the playoff picture. We're behind the Panthers. At least Shero only inked Satan for one year...

DigitalGypsy66 wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 6:36 PM

Another sorry display of hockey today.  Lack of forward depth, suspect coaching, lack of fire all are to blame here.

If anything is done, we will probably be stuck with Savard or Yeo for the rest of the year and go for a NHL assistant in the offseason (Randy Cunneyworth?  Todd Richards?).

fantasyman wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 6:42 PM

Boarding Major, I wish I could agree with your assesment of who will be traded but I just don't see how it can happen.  By now, everyone knows Satan is garbage, he's bad offensively and worse defensively, he plays with no heart, grit, or determination.  Just this week, Staal became the most overpaid third line center in the NHL and he's simply living off his brother Eric's name.  Boucher and Eaton are carbon copies of each other, old, slow, lack physcial presence, poor handling/passing skills and wouldn't even make it onto the ice if we had a head coach that knew what he is doing.  I don't see how a mixed bag of garbage players is going to bring back anyone of significance that can really help this team.  On a side note, as a long time supporter of Therrian and the phrase "you're never as good as they make you out to be and never as bad either" I finally think it's time for him to take a hike.  He's lost the locker room, the players don't like playing for him, he constantly uses the media to call out the players, the "pick-a-part" method of making lines is just downright comical, and he's so critical of our goalies even though they are getting peppered with 30 and 40 shots a game, 20+ legit scoring chances, constant odd man breaks, and tons of traffic in front.

TJK33 wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 6:56 PM

At this point I'm not sure MT knows what to do to right the ship and I think the grace period to get it turned has ended.  

I recall watching the game right after the Bruins and remember the commentary on how the Penguins used the next practice and worked on the center drive which Boston had used with success against us.  How many shifts did the Penguins actually use the center drive?  What is the use of practicing something if the coach doesn't enforce it being used?

I love Sid and Geno but down 2 goals and they are still trying to make pretty passes.  

Anyone have any idea of there are any good wingers coming in the draft next season?  At this point we could have top 10.  

WDS001 wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 7:28 PM

Playoff math:

43 games played - 44 points - 20-19-4

Minimum points required to make playoffs - 95  (Boston was 8th last season in East with 94)

Record required to earn 50 points over last 39 games - 25-14

Anyone think this team can turn it around and play 0.641 winning % hockey the last half of the season?

Yeah, that's what I think too.

Lauren wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 8:13 PM

The sad thing is that if Shero is going to do anything, knowing him, he's probably not going to do it any time soon. Ugh. Even a "Yes, we are struggling and I'm about to take care of it" from him would be nice.

a Habay wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 8:32 PM

I Give Up.

There really is no hope for this team right now...Other than Sid and Geno we've got nothing offensively and even they were struggling as well...I'm happy Staal scored, now Trade Him, Trade everyone, blow the roster up and start over.  Axe the coaches and Shero, but Keep Jeff Jimmerson, Cotton Candy Guy and Iceburgh

I'm starting to lose hope...

marty34156 wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 8:34 PM

Shero won't do anything hes an awful GM last summer he put all his eggs in the hossa basket and when we lost him we also failed to sign Malone, Roberts, and Ruutu and the only reason we didnt sign ruutu is because he wanted 3 years and Sher owould only give him 2. And if he doesn't trade Staal, who is extremely over rated, before the deadline then he has to be fired because we have hardly any cap room left now. And firing Terriehn won't fix it i think that will only make it worse Terriehn is a great coach firing him would be nothing but scapegoating the coach, and blaming the coach for a team that with its current roster is at best the 7th or 8th team in the conference for being in 9th. Terriehn isnt the one thats got to go Shero is. And please Mario call Jagr!!!!!

marty34156 wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 9:02 PM

Also the only good thing Shero has ever done is resign the core long term but thats common sense, other then that shero has done ZERO good for the Pens Craig Patrick built this team the only "core" guy drafted by Shero is the extremely overrated Jordan Staal look who Shero has signed via free agency......

BAD- Godard, Satan, Sydor. Recchi, Taffe, Sabourin

GOOD-  Sykora, Fedotenko, Cooke

Trades...........

Bad- Gary Roberts trade, Georges Laraque trade, Nils Eckman trade, Dominic Moore trade

Good- Hossa trade

JL58 wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 9:29 PM

Unfortunately, Paid a boat load of money to go to the game today. WTF was Sabourin starting for? Nice decision Therrien. Time for you to go. Shero your next. Orpik like that new contract awarded to you for one shift last post season? How about earning some of it this year?

There was more enthusiasm from the numerous fans in the stand than what showed up on the ice.  Pathetic!

saneman wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 11:29 PM

Whitney one of the best defenders on the ice says nothing as they all have sucked or suffering from injuries. Whintey has been awful on the powerplay on almost every chance with the exception of that one assist he had against Atlanta. The guy is highly paid. It is not enough to be better than crap. Alex Goligoski is a better presence on the PP than Whitney. Therrien is a moron to give him that many minutes.

Shero had a great year last year. I would say trading for Roberts, Laraque and Ruutiu did pan out.

The treatment of Sydor has been baffling. He looked good whenever he came in yet Therrien would scratch him too often. Boucher had a good start with the Pens but just got worse.

However Shero has made many bad moves this year. Sigining Eaton was almost Littlefieldian bad move. Signing Satan for that much money was silly but not as bad as Eaton even if it looks just as bad in hindsight. Fedotenko is Ok signing. He is earning the 2M he gets.

It is puzzling why Sykora is not on every first team PP.

Why would you sign Staal for 16M? How is that a discount for signing early? Which team would offer Staal 17-18M AND give up many high round picks to the Pens? Because that is the only scenario where it would make sense to give Staal that much money at such a young age. He hasn't proven a thing yet. Kessell has twice the number of goals as Staal.

Zigomanis is the only good move Shero made this year. He has done an awful job this year. Now the Staal pick doesnt even look that great with Kessel outscoring him big time. Staal's defense hasn't been to his usual standard lately.

Lauren wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sun, Jan 11 2009 1:14 AM

About Staal, I would have to say that while $4 mil a year for four years is too much, there are some things that should be accounted for. One is that he is only 20 (almost a full year younger than Kessel) - he's not even close to his prime yet, and he still has time to work on things. Another is that it's difficult for a guy to produce when he's playing on the third line with Kennedy and Cooke or similar players. (Don't get me wrong, I like both of them, but they're not going to score much)

Then again, I was surprised that the Pens drafted him (as in, drafted a center) in 2006 when they already had Sid and Geno. I was expecting them to go for Kessel, or even Toews.

marty34156 wrote re: Avalanche 5, Penguins 3 - 1-10-09
on Sun, Jan 11 2009 12:51 PM

i think this team would be monumentally better with Kessel or Toews instead of Staal

Empty Netters wrote 2008-09 - A game-by-game recap - 6-22-09
on Mon, Jun 22 2009 10:04 AM

For Penguins fans, the 2008-09 season was quite unlike anything they've ever seen. There were sicking