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Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09

The Penguins and forward Jordan Staal agreed to a four-year extension. Financial terms of the deal were not released.

The deal begins at the start of the 2009-10 season and will last through 2012-13. Staal is still playing under the terms of his entry-level deal he signed prior to the 2006-07 season. Staal was the Penguins first-round pick (No. 2 overall) in 2007.

EN Says: Well, we guess this puts to rest those "Staal for whoever" trade rumors. Ray Shero and company obviously see him as a vital part of this franchise's core and took a big step to ensure he stays in a Penguins uniform for a significant length of time.

Assuming the money is responsible (and we have no reason to second guess Shero in that regard), we like the move. Granted, Staal's offense has declined after a strong rookie year and that has frustrated many followers of the Penguins, but he is 20 years old. He is still growing mentally and physically and has a world of potential. While his role with this franchise is still probably not clearly defined, he offers so many possibilities in areas as a power forward, a shut-down defensive forward and franchise player.

That said, this clearly doesn't bode well for those who would like to get a world-class first-line scoring winger for Sidney Crosby, including potentially Crosby himself. Given the uncertainty of how much the NHL's salary cap could rise or even fall in subsequent seasons, locking up a talent like Staal to a long-term deal obviously sucks up a significant portion of whatever cap room Shero has to work with. And when you consider the deals others like Brooks Orpik, Marc-Andre Fleury and Evgeni Malkin inked prior to this season, the team already has a lot of money accounted for.

Another thing to consider is prior to this deal, Staal was easily Shero's biggest commodity in a potential deal for a scoring winger. He's a player with a world of talent who was scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent. Moving Staal would've been the most logical route Shero could've taken if he really wanted to pursue a winger for Crosby.

Personally, we still see Staal in the mold of a Rick Nash, the Blue Jackets' franchise player. He's a big body who has shown the ability to score on the wing in the past. He can handle the puck in traffic just like Nash and has a similar build. Staal is 6-foot-4, 220 pounds while Nash is 6-foot-4, 218 pounds. Staal just isn't as aggressive as Nash.

Is our comparison to Nash a little over the top? Perhaps. Nash is easily the best power forward in the sport. But on the second day of the free agency signing period, Shero held a "state of the union" press conference to address where the Penguins sat in terms of personnel. He named Staal specifically as someone they would depend on to fill Ryan Malone's role as a power forward, particularly on the power play. (14:50 mark of the video).

We won't go as far as to say Staal will be a pure 40-goal threat like Nash, but he has so much more to offer in other aspects of the game.

UPDATE: Shelly Anderson has the cap hit at $4 million per season.

(Photo: Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)


Posted Jan 08 2009, 11:55 AM by Seth Rorabaugh

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lemieux67 wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:03 PM

I sure as goodness hope they got him on the *cheap*  since he is playing like a pile of cow dung.  (Seth, can I say that - does it pass the P-G censor?)

jdd40 wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:04 PM

This is good...but now I am completely confused as to what this team is going to do about wingers. Is it possible that they would sign him and then trade him in the same year?

Robbiesdad wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:08 PM

I probably should wait to hear the details of the contract before I comment, but this the biggest hiccup of Ray Shero's tenure so far.

Staal is a total "in-betweener"...not skilled enough to play in the top 6 or on the PP, not gritty enough or good enough on face-offs to be the legit # 3 center he's being counted upon to be.  

To commit big dollars for four more seasons is a risk, at best.  

The Staal defenders keep saying, "Yeah, but he's only 20 years old".  That's true, according to the calendar, but he's already played over 200 games in the NHL.  He's actually a veteran.  How much better do people really believe he's going to get?

Take away the two-game explosion in mid-November vs Detroit and Buffalo, and Staal has scored 6 goals in 39 other games.  This despite receiving WAY more PP ice time than he deserves.  

Please, Jordan, make this rant look foolish.  I'd love nothing more than to be force-fed a super-sized Happy Meal of Crow; but I'm not banking on it.  Neither should the Pens.

blueline wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:25 PM

According to TSN, the deal is for $16M.

lemieux67 wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:27 PM

Could have had Ryan Malone for similar money.  Hmm....

Granted even though he signed for 7 years with TB, he probably would have given us the "hometown discount" shorter deal of 4 years...

...wouldn't it be nice to have him in the lineup right now?

Jafey wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:30 PM

tsn says 4y 16 million

in my opinion right now thats a high risk/high return investment

if he stays where he is right now this signing could haunt the pens for the next four years, but if staal starts developing further to one of the elite two way forwards its gonna be a very decent cap hit

otherwise this signing could be favoring a trade as he is locked up for the next years and no rfa anymore and other franchises know how he would be fitting in their system

Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:32 PM

I think being signed long term makes Staal even more attractive to potential trading partners.

theWellHungarian wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:46 PM

call me crazy, & besides it will never happen, but if I was the Penguins, I would trade Sidney. Malkin would move to #1 center & Staal would center the 2nd line. Max Talbot would do fine as a 3rd line center. Malkin is the better overall player than Sid & is only going to get better as he fills out & becomes more & more accustomed to the North American game. Also, look at what Sidney would fetch you in a trade. Malkin is already just as, if not more, popular than Sidney in Pittsburgh, so the "fill-the-seats" or "marketing" aspect of dumping Sid wouldn't hurt as we already have a seat-filler in Geno. Not only would Geno, finally, get a quality winger, but so would Staal.

I know it won't happen, but take out the business aspect of the Penguins & trading Crosby would be the best move the team could make.

Bones wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:50 PM

Disgruntled Goat makes a good point. I think this all but guarantees that Staal won't be going anywhere at this year's deadline, but let's say he finds his scoring touch at some point this season and carries it over to the next. The relatively reasonable cap number he has over the next few years could make him look attractive to a team in need of a center with Staal's potential. Good move by Shero, although I was hoping for something like a 2 year, 6 million extension.

Bones wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:53 PM

Still can't believe all the Crosby hatin' going on. The guy is third in league scoring while playing at a sub-par level! Let's appreciate what we have here people!

CrashKelly wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 12:54 PM

Disgruntled Goat is exactly right. He's much easier to trade now that he's locked into a long-term contract. Before today, acquiring Staal had two unknowns, his potential and the cost to keep him after this year. Now there's only one.

In the long run, trading Staal is probably the best course of action. In today's economic environment, it's impossible for the Penguins to be that strong down the center and still have any hopes of ever getting a decent winger for Crosby. Staal will probably realize his potential, ala Marcus Naslund, but only after he is an ex-Penguin. Hopefully, management will get a better return than they did for Naslund.

CrashKelly wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:01 PM

Okay, "WellHungarian, you are crazy!"

Trade Sid? Sid IS the franchise. And as much as Mario was / is.  I love Malkin too (as evidenced by my growing collection of Russian Malkin jerseys), but we will never, ever, ever trade him. Having Sid and Geno is a blessing and thinking about getting rid of either one of them is well, crazy.

Would you have suggested trading Mario because we had Jagr? I know it's not the same, but...

Buckles wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:02 PM

The trade Sidney Crosby talk is just as stupid as the keep Andrew Cassel trade Tom Brady talk.  You NEVER trade a player of Crosby's talent away this early in his career.  Granted he isn't playing well right now, but so is just about everybody wearing a Pens sweater.  

I know you can counter with "well the Oilers traded Gretzky", but that was entirely different circumstances.  For one, Gretzky was a decade into his career and had already won 4 Cups.  Even with all the bounty the Oilers got back, the only person that did much of anything for them in that deal was Graig Simpson.  And yes they won one without Gretzky, but that due to the hangers on from the same era, Messier, Lowe Anderson, etc.

The worst thing we could do would be to trade Crosby.  How do we get better by doing that?

Brando wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:03 PM

I'm disappointed with you all...everyone's missing the big picture...

...which is we now get four more years of "the Staals are brothers" jokes and pictures of the sod farm.

My god...Bob Errey's head is going to explode tonight.

Quick.  Somebody get me the over/under on "The folks in Thunder Bay are proud tonight" mentions.

Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:06 PM

If you have one of the best players in the world (Sid) you build around him, rather than trade him. (Unless you are staving off bankruptcy)  How did that Jarg trade turn out?  Or the Kovalev trade?  The only smart thing I ever heard Barry Melrose say was "Whoever got the better player in a trade made the better trade."

Bones wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:10 PM

This doesn't necessarily carry the doom and gloom salary cap implications that a lot of people seem to think it does. We've got Satan and his $3.5 million coming off the books. It would be nice to move Eaton and his $2 million salary. Contrary to popular belief, we're NOT Tampa Bay North...

Seth Rorabaugh wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:17 PM

Brando is clearly the most sensible person in this forum.

;)

Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:17 PM

@ Buckles - Craig Simpson went to the Oilers in exchange for Paul Coffey.  The Gretzky trade wouldn't even be allowed today because it included $15 million.

Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:30 PM

"Brando is clearly the most sensible person in this forum."

That's like being the skinniest person at the fat farm.

dgthing wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:32 PM

So you see most guys in any sport in the last year of their contract play great...trying to get paid.  Jordan has underperformed in the last year of his contract so maybe now that he's sign he can't stop worrying and start playing some good hockey.

I do agree he's more marketable now that he's locked up.

Brando wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 1:46 PM

Hmmm.  I think there was a compliment somewhere in there.  I'll take it.

It all seriousness (yes, seriousness), I thought with Talbot's extension a few weeks ago that things might not have been looking good for our favorite brother from Thunder Bay.  And, if our boys weren't in the slump they're in...it seems like this would be a non-issue and we'd all be praising Shero for locking up another one.

Just remember...at the end of the day...Ray Shero has proven he's not Dave Littlefield, and until he signs a pair of Indians who happen to shoot the puck hard, but know nothing about the game of hockey...then he's OK in my book.

Go Pens.

JBM425 wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 2:53 PM

This still does not close the door on a possible trade involving Staal to get a winger.  Staal may be best at center, but he will never be more than number 3 on the depth chart.  To achieve his full potential, he may have to move back to center and play with more skilled wingers (gee...what other Penguins center could use a better wing?).

Colorado is going through something similar with Wojtek Wolski.  He was converted from center in juniors to wing as a pro, what with the Avs having Sakic, Forsberg, and Paul Stastny. Many Avs fans would say Wolski has under-achieved until now.  With all three of those out of the lineup, they have moved Wolski back to center, and so far the returns have been positive.  

jalong2913 wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 3:05 PM

The fans in D-9 are thrilled by this news

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Nick Fruscello wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 3:57 PM

I still think trading Staal could be in the works.  To some teams he may look even better now.  A young franchise center signed to long term deal at only $4 mil, sounds better than a young franchise center that could become a restricted free agent at the end of the year and be stolen away by some other team.  Only a team that would be more interested in getting draft picks, would prefer the latter.

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 4:01 PM

Signing Staal long-term actually makes him more marketable - it removes the uncertainty of the "Hossa Syndrome," AKA "Rent-a-player."   Signing Staal is a good long-term move by Shero.

Secondly, this team is very young (Sid - 21, Staal - 20, Talbot - 24, Fleurey - 23, Malkin - 22).   Question: If the Pens had not over-achieved last season (remember, 14 months ago most people were predicting they would be competing for a playoff spot), would the "gotta fix it now" drumbeat be so loud today?   As painful as it is (more so because of last Spring's run), these season may just be growing pains.  That said, this group clearly misses (and needs) a veteran presence on the ice and in the room.   Caulfield's discussion on Tuesday night of the Shanahan-t0-sign-with-Pens rumors reinforced just how young and inexperienced this team is.  

Third - a new over/under is Steigerwald on Whitney "playing with his head up."  

But, you're right - it's a great day in T-Bay!

Purple Moose wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 4:06 PM

Funny how you mentioned Rick Nash in your story.   I have been proposing a Stall and Letang deal for Nash (as if I am the GM).   Not sure if Columbus would go for it but I think its crazy that we are scratching 2 NHL caliber defensemen every night and have this great need for a scoring winger.

Pens Fan in MI wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 9:30 PM

The hosts on XM Home Ice discussed the signing of Staal this evening.  Specifically, they were discussing the analysis on the "Empty Netters" blog.

Congrats on the recognition.

theWellHungarian wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Thu, Jan 8 2009 10:47 PM

i agree with Nick... Staal signed at 4 mill per year is a lot better than Staal about to become a restricted free agent.

Goat, Where is Barry Melrose working now?

Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Penguins agree to four-year extension with Staal - 1-8-09
on Fri, Jan 9 2009 12:11 AM

He's back spouting nonsense on ESPN.

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