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Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09

Greetings from our living room. Since we don't care to watch too much of the Extreme World Cup of Bull Riding or whatever garbage Versus usually shows, we watched some of Savran on Sportsbeat prior to tonight's game. This has nothing to do with hockey, but former Steelers offensive tackle Tunch Ilkin was on and we couldn't help but notice but he gives you a little Michigan football coach Rich Rodriguez:

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-Greg Wyshynski of Yahoo! found this gem: The Staal Brothers drinking game. Your liver would forfeit if it was smart.

-Speaking of which, we're giving an over/under of "The Staals are brothers" at  eight. It seems when the Rangers' Marc is involved, the Staal mentions seem to decline. Maybe it's because's a defensive defenseman and not as notable, but Marc and Jordan are no Eric and Jordan.

-If that makes sense.

-We'll go ahead and guarantee you'll see more Jose Cuervo commercials tonight than "Staals are brothers" mentions.

-"Sports Soup" will get about 15 plugs.

-Joe Beninati gets the call. We seemingly say this every time his voice pierces our ear drums, but he just seems better suited for being a volleyball play-by-play guy. Or just some sort of sport where he can say "dude" a lot.

-Marc-Andre Fleury and Henrik Lundqvist will start in net.

-Hal Gill, Alex Goligoski and Tim Wallace are the Penguins' scratches.

-We can't say we really agree with Goligoski's benching, but on a team struggling on the Penguins, is anyone other than Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin really untouchable?

-New York will scratch Dan Fritsche and Lauri Korpikoski.

-Martha Stewart interviews Sidney Crosby:

-Hey, what do you know! The Staals are brothers!

-Brian Engblom, who still looks odd without his mullet, sort of mentions that the Staals are brothers. And he does so with a come hither look:

-Keith Jones says Miroslav Satan is due to break out. That might be kind of tough to do on the fourth line.

FIRST PERIOD

19:28: Almost immediately we get a disturbance. Maxime Talbot smacks Ryan Callahan to the ice from behind near the boards. A scrum develops. Talbot is called for boarding. We're not too sure about that call. Either way the Rangers have an early power play.

19:25: Off the faceoff, Fleury denies a wrister.

19:00: Well that certainly wasn't the start the Penguins were looking for. Following a failure by Mark Eaton to clear the puck, Nigel Dawes clunks a shot off Rob Scuderi's stick that deflects by Fleury on the stick side. What a lucky goal. Paul Mara and Michal Rozsival get assists. "Let's Go Rangers!" or whatever the name of that stupid song is is played. Rangers 1-0.

16:33: Petr Prucha tries to deke by Brooks Orpik but clips him up high drawing blood. That's four minutes for high sticking. The Penguins need a goal badly here. Not only for the game, but the confidence of the team. Ryan Whitney, Kris Letang, Tyler Kennedy, Crosby and Malkin are on for the power play.

16:18: After Whitney blasts a slapper from the right point, the puck bounces right to Crosby on the right side of the cage. He has a wide open net but Lundqvist makes a dazzling save with his right leg. Wow.

15:51: Crosby gets another lucky bounce and rips it off the post.

15:37: Crosby gets yet another chance. As he's hauled down he whips a wrister on net which Lundqvist kicks out. Dmitri Kalinin is nabbed for hooking. That's a bad call. Crosby just fell over. The Penguins will get a two-man advantage for a full two minutes. They must score here. Officials review one of Crosby's shot just to make sure he didn't score. It's a confirmed non-goal. Malkin joins Whitney on the point with Jordan Staal, Crosby and Kennedy up front.

15:15: The Staals are brothers.

14:52: Malkin blasts a one-timer from right point which hits off the post.

14:44: Lundqvist is able to deny Crosby on a deflection attempt.

13:59: A shot by Kennedy is deflected out of play by Lundqvist.

13:38: As Crosby tries to move a pass intot he crease for Sykora, Jordan Staal is called for interference. It was against his brother as Ed Olczyk reminds us. We'll have four-on-four for 1:04. The Penguins were a little more aggresive on that power play than usual. Lundqvist made some big saves.

12:52: The Staals are brothers.

12:33: Prucha's second penalty expires. The Rangers will have a power play for 52 seconds.

12:15: Markus Naslund clunks a shot off the post from the slot.

11:38: Jordan Staal's penalty expires.

11:34: Callahan takes a feed in the slot and sweeps a shot on net. Fleury is in perfect position, knocks down the puck and covers it.

10:55: Nikolai Zherdev rips a wrister over the net.

10:45: Lundqvist easily denies a wrister by Talbot. A small scrum develops. Brandon Dubinsky and Matt Cooke are each sent off for roughing. The officials are calling this game tight tonight. Four-on-four.

10:43: Crosby manages to take a shot

9:46: Whitney blocks a shot by Callahan.

9:35: Malkin pushes a pass to Jordan Staal on a two-on-one. Staal hammers a one-timer which is off the mark. Someone needs to get that on net.

9:25: The Staals are brothers.

8:26: Callahan slides a backhander into the crease which Fleury kicks out.

6:46: Pascal Dupuis chops a wild shot on net which is off the mark.

6:25: Letang is in deep in the Rangers' zone and gets tagged by Wade Redden in the corner.

5:44: After a chance by Petr Sykora is kicked out, Fedotenko jumps on a rebound and pushes it wide.

4:52: Colton Orr is called for hooking. And how long ago do those highlights from the Stanley Cup final seem in that Center Ice commercial?

4:24: Malkin appears to get away with a high stick against Rozsival.

3:52: Crosby makes a fantastic pass to Kennedy in the slot. Lundqvist pokes the puck away from Kennedy. That was a big opportunity there.

3:44: Lundqvist covers up a chance in tight.

2:59: Satan get dumped near the net.

2:52: Orr penalty expires. Other than that chance for Kennedy in the crease, the Penguins didn't have a lot going on there. They had trouble getting it into the offensive zone even.

2:46: Philippe Boucher kneels down to block a shot from the right wing.

1:09: Fleury makes a bad play behind the net and zips the puck to... Aaron Voros. Voros immediately shoots it on net. Fleury is able to recover and eat up the shot.

0:58: Crosby whips a wrister on net from the left wing on a two-on-one. Lundqvist fights it off.

0:22: Voros is sent off for roughing. How many chances are the Penguins going to get before they cash in on the power play?

0:01: Blair Betts pushes the puck up ice. Fleury slides waaaay out of his crease to break up a potential power play.

0:00: End of period. Rangers 1, Penguins 0.

FIRST INTERMISSION

-All things considered, that was a solid period for the Penguins. They played fairly even with the Rangers. If it's not for a lucky goal, this is a 0-0 game.

-The power play continues to be an issue for the Penguins but give credit to Lundqvist. He's been sharp so far.

-The penguins have a 12-8 edge in shots.

-Someone must've said something to Crosby after Saturday. He leads the game with four shots. Kennedy is second with two.

-No one on the Rangers has more than one.

-The Rangers have a 12-8 lead in faceoffs.

-Betts is 6-for-8 (75 percent).

-Jordan Staal is 3-for-5 (60 percent).

-Whitney leads the game with 9:03 of ice time.

-Rozsival leads New York with 8:54.

-Boucher, Rob Scuderi and Redden each have one blocked shot.

-The Penguins will have 1:22 of power play time on fresh ice.

-EN reader Ian DeArdo is in Madison Square Garden and sent us a photo of the national anthem:

-Former Avalanche goaltender David Aebischer apparently uses eHarmony:

SECOND PERIOD

19:36: A blast by Letang is high.

19:15: Crosby zips a cross-ice pass to Letang. Letang has an open shot but forces a pass to no one in particular in the slot.

18:37: Crosby fires a wrister from the right wing which is blocked out of play by Redden.

18:22: Voros' penalty expires. Another just flat effort by the Penguins.

16:18: Betts pumps a quick wrister on net from the right wing. Fleury fights it off despite some traffic.

15:43: Boucher is in deep and zips a backhanded pass to Jordan Staal in the slot. Staal shoots but his stick snaps. Staal slams it on the ice. Things are just going that way for the Penguins right now.

15:35: Crosby is sent off for hooking.

14:16: Chris Drury chases down a loose puck and sails a shot high from the right wing.

14:00: Fleury gloves a shot by Dawes from in tight.

13:52: Orpik blocks a big blast from Kalinin from the right point

13:34: As Crosby's penalty expires, Jordan Staal appears to get away with some sort of take down on a Rangers player.

12:58: Dan Girardi bombs a one-timer from the right point which is no where near the cage.

12:03: So far there haven't been any Jose Cuevo commercials but a ton of spots for Pappa Johns. Our knowledge of Versus' advertisers is terrible.

11:09: Callahan blasts a slapper from the right side. Fleury kicks it out.

11:04: Malkin gets behind the defense and bears down on net with the puck. He shoots high to the far side and is denied by Lundqvist who get a piece of it with his shoulder. New York fans shower their goaltender with "HEN-RIK! HEN-RIK!" chants.

10:38: Ludqvist covers a puck in the slot.

9:56: Prucha steps up on Crosby at the Penguins' blue line. Crosby adjusts and drops Prucha with a shoulder.

9:26: The ever dangerous Rob Scuderi puts a shot wide of the cage.

8:33: Cooke slams into Callahan behind the Rangers' net.

7:25: On a delayed penalty, Sykora tries to force a pass into the slot for Ruslan Fedotenko. Rozsival is sent off for interference.

7:23: Almost immediately, the Penguins are called for their own penalty. He interferes with a Rangers player right off the faceoff. Four-on-four for 1:58. Ugh.

5:43: Whitney collects a puck at the left point and pushes a wrister on net. Lundqvist kicks it out.

5:23: Both teams' penalties expire.

4:38: Crosby dishes a pass to Dupuis. Dupuis rips a wrister on net which Ludnqvist is able to juuust hang on too. Nice save.

3:38: Dawes leaves a pass for Kalinin rushing into the offensive zone. Kalinin fires a wrister which rings off a post and into the netting.

2:53: Cooke drops Kalinin behind the Rangers' net with a check into the boards.

2:35: After as shot by Girardi hits a body in front, Cooke is sent off for interference.

2:33: The Rangers strike right off the faceoff. Scott Gomez, who has been quiet so far, wins the draw. It goes to Paul Mara who steps up and blasts a slapper by Fleury on the stick side. That was a heck of a shot. "Let's Go Rangers" Gomez gets the only assist. Rangers 2-0.

2:04: Crosby pushes a backhander on net. Lundqvist fights it off.

1:30: The Penguins get a break as Drury throws a puck out of play from his own end. That's two minutes for delay of game. A goal here would be huge for the Penguins.

0:50: A wrister by Whitney is just wide.

0:19: Malkin pushes a pass to Whitney in the right faceoff circle. Whitney's shot is kicked out by Lundqvist.

0:04: Fredrik Sjostrom pushes the puck up ice and whips a backhander on net. Fleury denies him.

0:01: Mara gets a chance and blasts a slapper which Fleury fights off. The Rangers have had the best chances so far on this power play.

0:00: End of period. Rangers 2, Penguins 0.

SECOND INTERMISSION

-What was frustrating about that period was that the Penguins did put in a decent effort and played pretty well on defense. The Rangers' are hardly the 1984 Oilers, but they've had very little going there on offense. Additionally, the Penguins have created some opportunites, but they've missed more than a few of those chances.

-Lundqvist is still playing pretty strong.

-How many times can we say the power play is an issue?

-The Penguins have a 20-17 lead in shots.

-Crosby leads the game with five shots. Kennedy is right behind him with four.

-Sjostrom leads the Rangers with three.

-The Rangers control faceoffs, 25-17.

-Drury is 7-for-10 (70 percent).

-Crosby is 9-for-17. (53 percent).

-Whitney leads the game with 18:59 of ice time.

-Rozsival leads the Rangers with 16:15.

-Crosby and Redden lead the game with two blocked shots.

-The Penguins will have 30 seconds of power play time to begin the period. We couldn't find anything in the rule book that says you can decline it.

-OK, that Versus "V" thing. Really lame.

THIRD PERIOD

19:33: Lundqvist eats up a shot by Whitney. Lundqvist is just not going to be beaten tonight.

19:27: As Drury's penalty expires, Crosby tries to deflect a pass by Whitney on net. It goes just wide.

18:59: Fleury denies the Rangers on a timing play.

18:15: Prucha gets the best of Brooks Orpik behind the Penguins' net.

16:02: Kennedy takes down Naslund at the Penguins' blue line. That's two minutes. The Penguins must kill this if they hope to come back.

15:53: As Olczyk points out, the Rangers win the faceoff and almost immediately get a puck on net. Gomez fires a wrister from the right faceoff circle. Fleury stops it and covers up the rebound.

14:55: A Ranger fires a wild wrister from the right point which is off the mark.

14:33: Talbot kills about eight or nine seconds by pinning the puck along the boards near the benches.

14:13: Mara blasts a shot wide of the net.

14:04: Fleury denies Dawes in tight with a big save.

14:02: The Penguins come up with a big penalty kill.

13:34: Dupuis centers a puck into the slot for a teammate who can't take it cleanly.

12:12: Callahan chops a one-timer which flutters on net. Fleury punches it away with his blocker.

11:16: Orpik fires a slapper from the left point which is blocked.

11:06: Orpik slides a pass to Whitney at the right point which is deflected just wide.

9:08: The Rangers are pretty much dumping the puck and changing lines. They're playing to protect the lead the rest of the way.

8:51: Cooke pushes a backhander on net. Lundqvist covers it up. This "Free Credit Report" band isn't half bad by the way:

-The Staals are brothers.

8:16: Fleury punches out a shot on net.

7:58: Orpik tags Colton Orr with a nice check.

7:30: Well that pretty much ices the game. After making a move that makes Letang lose his skates, Dawes pushes a puck around the boards to Prucha behind the net. He almost immediately zips a pass to Drury in the slot. Drury puches a shot by a helpless Fleury. That was a complete defensive breakdown. Prucha and Dawes get assists. "Let's Go Rangers." Rangers 3-0.

4:55: Orr gets a little payback as he gets a stick into Orpik's face. It's not exactly smart as Orr is sent off for two minutes, but it's not like the Penguins are going to score a goal here.

4:21: Lundqvist fights off a slapper by Boucher.

3:49: Whitney whips a wrister on net which is deflected out of play by Rozsival. Fire Craig Patrick. Michel Therrien calls a time out to ... we don't know. We can't make up jokes about bad movies at this point.  Fleury is pulled for an extra attacker. OK.

3:11: This just keeps getting better and better. Drury blasts a puck from his corner down ice towards the empty net. It hits off the boards. Gomez gets to it first without a Penguins player anywhere near him. He punches it into the cage for one of us. How does Gomez not even get challenged for that puck? Drury and Rozsival get assists. "Let's Go Rangers!" Rangers 4-0.

2:46: Orr and Eric Godard decide to drop the gloves late. Why even bother. Orr throws about 320 punches before Godard gets one in. After Orr tires himself out a bit, Godard lands a few before Orr forces him to the ice. Someone better hope there's not an instigating penalty on that.

1:50: Orpik blasts a slapper from the left point. Callahan slides down to block it. He's showing a lot of guts blocking that shot with such a big lead late.

1:14: Kennedy work free off a check and slaps a shot on net. It gets blocked away with a stick.

1:10: "Crossss....Beeeee..... Crossss....beeeee...."

0:38: Satan drops a player with a hit from behind. That might be the most physical he's played all year. He's sent off for boarding.

0:00: End of game. Rangers 4, Penguins 0.

POSTGAME

-What can we say which hasn't been said already been said 50 times the past two weeks or so?  The Penguins just have nothing going. The effort is there effort was there tonight for the most part. But there just isn't a tone of cohesion or chemistry on many fronts with the Penguins. Not on the power play, not the transition game and none in the defensive end. They're just not working well together. There's talent on this roster. Just not chemistry.

-The power play. It stinks. We really can't say much more than that.

-Actually we can. The Rangers' penalty kill came into this game hurting. If there was a night the Penguins could break through with even one goal on the man advantage, it was tonight. Combine that with the early two-man advantage tonight, the Penguins' power play completely failed the team tonight. Again.

-The Penguins actually played fairly well on defense we thought until the roof caved in late.They broke up quite a few passes and opportunites in their end throughout the game. They improved quite a bit in terms of their positioning compared to Saturday's debacle against Florida.

-As much as the Penguins just failed to produce offensively tonight, Henrik Lundqvist was outstanding tonight. He withstood an early rush by the Penguins, including a few quality chances by Crosby with a man-advantage and really stole the momentum from the Penguins. He did more than enough to earn this shutout tonight.

-At some point, Crosby and Malkin need to step up and start producing on their own. They're two of the best players in the world. Their individual brilliance should be able to produce something, anything on their own regardless of their coaching or linemates. A few EN readers have commented that Mario Lemieux used to produce with the likes of Warren Young and Rob Brown on his line. While expecting 190-point seasons out of Crosby and Malkin is a little outlandish in this defensive era, the comparison is valid in that Lemieux found a way to produce regardless of the skill level of his teammates.

-That said, the Penguins do need to upgrade their wingers.

-Staal deserves some blame for the power-play struggles as well. While we still think Sergei Gonchar is the biggest missing piece to that puzzle, they are missing Ryan Malone, or someone like him, in front of the net. After the first few days of free agency this past offseason, Ray Shero held a "state of the union" press conference on where the franchise stood with personnel. He named Staal specifically as a person who would replace Malone in front of the cage. Staal has played well in areas this season and we would even argue he's improved from last season, but he's failed them specifically on the man advantage.

-Some would argue that Staal was miscast in that role as a true power foward. If that's the case, then Shero and company deserve blame for trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.

-We in no way are blaming the result on the officials, but the zebras were a little incosistent in some ways tonight. The seemed to blow a quick whistle with some infractions while letting other things go. Again, it had nothing to do with the Penguins' loss. It's just an observation.

-The Penguins had a 27-26 edge in shots.

-Crosby, Callahan and Kennedy led the game with five shots.

-Faceoff continue to be an issue for the Penguins. The Rangers controlled the faceoff circle, 32-26.

-Gomez was 11-for-13 (85 percent).

-Crosby was 13-for-22 (59 percent).

-Whitney led the game with 26:57 of ice time.

-Rozsival led New York with 25:51.

-Crosby and Redden led the game with two blocked shots.

-It might be hard to believe, but that was only Lundqvist's second regular season shutout against the Penguins. He blanked them, 4-0, Dec. 18, 2007.

-Lundqvist did shut them out in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference semifinal, 3-0, May 1, 2008.

-The Penguins' regular season losing streak at Madison Square Garden is now at eight games.

-We don't have our media guide immediately available, but we're pretty sure the last Penguins goal against the Rangers was scored by Ron Duguay. We think:

-Game summary.

-Event summary.

-Highlights.


Posted Jan 05 2009, 06:47 PM by Seth Rorabaugh

Comments

mike7psu wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:08 PM

Plain and simple, the pens need to score first and score early to validate Crosby's fight the other night as being needed.

Also they need something to go right early to jump start this team.  Shero is not going to make a roster move, and really other than the Satan 4th line move, MT did nothing ground breaking.  So these guys are on their own to right the ship, and they need to fast.

dps2002 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:09 PM

I'm two days late on this (and about twenty dollars short), but I don't know whether to place some of the blame of Saturday's debacle on myself for being at the Civic Arena/Igloo/Mellon Arena for the game.  I took some pictures, including a long-range shot of Jeff Jimerson (for the record, I finally understand why you guys say he dominates so much), but I was so discouraged by the game that I don't know whether to submit them for consideration.  (Except for a possible "hat foul" I discovered in the Pen Station memorabilia store.)

I thought the Crosby fight was outright stupid, the goaltending carousel mildly amusing, and the entire day utterly forgettable.  Except for my new sock hat and my blue Fleury shirt.

Perhaps Saturday represents rock bottom, and things get better from here.

Ali wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:13 PM

What a start. Ugh.

Come on boys!

Go Pens!

Bones wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:14 PM

Unbelievable...

mike7psu wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:17 PM

You have to answer here on the 4 min PP.

mike7psu wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:21 PM

I hate to be mean here but Crosby has to score on one of those two shots.  He is talented enough that he should put at least one of those two open net shots in.

Bones wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:23 PM

If they find a way to blow this PP the entire coaching staff needs to go.

Ali wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:29 PM

@bones -- they certainly found a way...

Versus just said that Whitney is back from an ankle problem?  Sure he is...

PensFanCT wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:36 PM

..there's always the gold medal gave CAN Vs SWE on NHL network.......

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:36 PM

Something about Olczyk just rubs me the wrong way, he's still bitter about failing w/ the PENS as a coach.

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:39 PM

The only good news associated w/ our LOWLY pens are all the bums who stink right now, come off the books @ seasons end, Satan, Sykora, Fed, etc...

Brando wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:42 PM

Awesome.  Versus just went to a commercial by telling us there's a penalty, but not who it's against.  Fail.

And yes...I agree...Olczyk sounds like he's doing a Soduko puzzle instead of watching the game.

Bones wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:43 PM

Fedotenko is their best player right now. Granted, that's not saying much...

meestro wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:45 PM

I always enjoy Edzo's commentary, but  I was thinking that he was talking too much during this game.  And then I heard Beninati try to call the game and I realized why Olczyk was talking so much...

mike7psu wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:45 PM

We need to move the puck better on the PP.  Both faster, so that these teams cant be so aggressive, and not always along the boards where we have to take a second to control it before we can move it.

meestro wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:46 PM

Is Doc still sick or something?  C'mon Versus.

Lauren wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:47 PM

southernburgh - I can't help but agree with you about Olcyzk...

Shots are at least 12-7 Pens right now, though, and if not for that early penalty and superb goaltending by Lundqvist so far, it wouldn't be 1-0 Rangers.

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:52 PM

Awful first period.   Even Eddie O. mentioned no speed through the neutral zone, too much passing, and when the D shoot on the power play, they hit glass.   Have they throw a decent defensive zone body check in 2009?   Granted, Crosby had some chances, but if Lundquist could play the Pens in MSG every game, he'd win the Vezina running away.   No passion - everyone wants to be the hero.

Fox has the Fiesta Bowl on if you can't handle the horror.  

War Penguin wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:04 PM

That eHarmony commercial with the guy in goalie gear just made my head hurt.  And that was without hearing the audio.

Brando wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:04 PM

Is anyone reading the Puck Huffers "Staals are Brothers Drinking Game" live blog?

I'm fairly certain they're all pummeled already.  Looks like a long night for them....  

:)

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:08 PM

Just 4 S's & G's, if THerien & Yeo were let go, anyone know who might be on the list to come in & replace them? From afar, I'd say bring up 1/2 of WB/S & get rid of some of the dead weight on the ice now, Crosby needs a winger, he's not Mario, Mario could turn nobodies into 30-40 goal scorers, Sid is regressing

mike7psu wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:09 PM

Why does MT continue to run Crosby on the strong side half board for the PP?  Malkin has the better shot, and they are wasting him by putting him on his off side where he cant one time the puck.  Crosby is better working the corners then Malkin, so why whouldnt he be low and Malkin on the hash mark like Mario used to sit and score.

meestro wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:10 PM

And they just announced that Doc's father died.  Wow do I feel like a real A Hole now.

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:15 PM

anyone curious, go to NHLnumbers.com it is a great website that lists everyone's contracts & salaries...

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:17 PM

Maybe Fleury needs a fire lit under his pads, get rid of Sabourin, bring in another veteran to make him fight for his job, overpaid bum... and shave that wimpy thing off ur bottom lip....

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:22 PM

anyone catch Jory Rand on sunday sports showdown lastnight, what a BLEEPING bum, talked about trading Cosby, he should go back to Maryland...

PenguinsExperience wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:38 PM

Angelo Esposito scores for Canada.

Fire Ray Shero.

(=

mike7psu wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:39 PM

Can we hit the net?  I mean this is not funny anymore.  Its costing us scoring chances.

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 8:52 PM

Are they trying too hard tonite?  

I'm wondering now if the third jerseys have messed up the cosmic alignments.   Sure, they look cool, but does everyone remember that the teams that wore those jerseys were awful?   I, for one, don't want to channel the Pens teams of the mid-70s.  

raccoonnine wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:18 PM

Has Malkin done anything tonight?

Gill I understand benching, but why is Goligoski out tonight?

Ugh...this is getting old.

mike7psu wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:25 PM

Right now this team is being out coached game in and game out.  You have to make adjustments, not just line switches.  We run the same system, the same PP, the same everything.  You know other coaches do actually game plan and you may need to change it up from time to time.

War Penguin wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:25 PM

I almost feel like Therrien is just guessing at this point, trying to find a productive combination of players.

Before I had a feeling that the line switching was because he was, you know, a mad scientist/evil genius ... now, not so much.

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:28 PM

"Lost in Space" - this team & coaching staff is lost in space.  

jdd40 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:32 PM

The look on MT face after the short handed goal says it all.

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:32 PM

are we watching titantic, I guess the breaking of the ship was last offseason when everyone left, we stayed afloat awhile, now its going down, fast....

southernBURGH wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:33 PM

i wonder if i can cancel my CENTER ICE package on Direct TV

smiles57 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:33 PM

This is beyond sad.  I'm taking my mom to her first live hockey game tomorrow and THIS is what I have to show to her.  

I think the whole team needs to sit down as a group, pop some popcorn and watch Slapshot together.  

WDS001 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:35 PM

wow ....................... wow - was last year a dream?  

Buckles wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:39 PM

I don't want to seem like I am over-reacting, but anytime we are matching anything from the 2003-04 season, we are in serious jeopardy.  When you have your captain clearly state before the game that this is fragile team right now, you know there is something wrong.  What is being done about it?  Where is the leadership? I am starting to think Staal is becoming more expendable with every passing game.  No excuse for not getting that Malkin feed on a early 2-1 on the net.  Nobody is beyond reproach right now.  That includes Crosby and Malkin.  Losing 10-1 the last two games against teams that have been on skids and have problems scoring is a serious sign that something needs to happen.

Ali wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:39 PM

Aw man.  

I'm seriously forgetting what it feels like to watch the Pens win... slowly but surely I'm forgetting...

@smiles57 -- going to a live hockey game is still a super great experience, even if the Pens do lose... I hope you and your Mom have a GREAT time!! :)

So... it's about time the Pens make some changes???

War Penguin wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:47 PM

Buckles - I have been wondering over the past few days if Staal was one of the people being alluded to in the Orpik sound bite from a few games back - about how you find out who some people really are when things are going badly.  But that's not based on any actual information.  Just weird and quite possibly wrong gut feeling.

VaporTrails wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:49 PM

I'm frustrated...bewildered....depressed...

Is it time for a coaching change?

dps2002 wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:49 PM

I withdraw what I said earlier about Saturday being rock bottom.  Right now, I don't know where the bottom is.

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Bones wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 10:34 PM

@southernBURGH:

I feel the same way. Center Ice isn't looking like such a good investment right now...

CrashKelly wrote re: Penguins at Rangers live - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 10:36 PM

The Pens are just not performing. They make terrible decisions and it's obvious they just don't care. Crosby wears the C and it's his responsibility to lead the team. He needs to take off the kid gloves and really get into the face of those members that are bringing this team down

I hope MT rips these guys in the press. "They don't shoot the puck, they don't battle for puck, they don't check for puck, they don't give a puck"

G-Man wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 10:45 PM

One could not tell tonight because the Penguins failed to score any goals. But announcer Joe Beninati, when doing games for Versus, is entirely too enthusiastic when Penguin opponents score goals. Joe is the lead announcer on Capitals games which I get on my local cable (Richmond, VA). I hear Joe call other games (non-Penguins) on Versus and he has much less enthusiasm when a team scores than when it's against the Pens. My point is he seems to be rooting against Pittsburgh who are absolutely the Capitals most hated rival.

ctpensfan wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 10:57 PM

I am a life long Pens fan and season ticket holder for the 2 cup years living in Connecticut and disgusted by our play this year.  We let our grit and character go and tried to replace it with finesse.  Every lose puck battle goes against us and I don't see any way to fix it.

TheDude wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 11:20 PM

Actually WDS001, the Pens were quite competitvein the mid-70's.  From 73-74 thru 76-77 (mid-70s??), they were 1 game under 500, and that was with a really poor 73-74 season.  In fact, they were really bad after switching to the old Black and Maize not having a winning season until 87-88; or 7 years.

TheDude knows.

Sieve70 wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 11:51 PM

Ron Duguay?!?!

Ron Duguay?!?!

We love you man! Love the hockey talk and the local interests help, but WOW! LOL

While the Mrs-to-be is from Brazil, I have a hockey reputation to hold up being from North Dakota, and pulling a name from whatever orifice is appropriate that has played a total of 53 games with the Pens in 85-87?!?!  Help me out man!!! LOL

To freakin' funny in these bad times!  Thanks!!!! LOL

Yeah, we're sticking around for Tues' game... couldn't turn down glass seats behind the attacking net!  Hope the karma works out!!!

LET'S GO PENS!!!

Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 12:26 AM

There was a rumor a while back (started by me) that the Pens were going to trade Staal for Duguay.  Coincedence?

That was kind of a strange formation on that powerplay.  4 forwards with Bullard and Duguay up high and the only D-man (Moe Mantha) in the slot.  Terry Ruskowski knew how to park in the crease.  Maybe Mike Yeo should study that video.  Better than watching tonight's game for sure.

sev7achilles wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 12:34 AM

@G-Man - you are correct.  Beninati hates the Penguins and it bleeds through when he does Pittsburgh games.  Guy is a complete jerk.

No trades now.  

Desperate teams don't get fair value.  

Just have to suck it up.  

Unless we want to trade Crosby.

But perhaps something can be done at the deadline...

Lauren wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 3:16 AM

Okay, I just have a few things that I'm wondering...

- Wasn't Therrien the guy (pretty much) everybody was praising last year for being such a great coach (and suggested in many corners as a candidate for the Jack Adams Award)? A month of losing and that goes out the window? (I'm just wondering for how long people have disliked him -- before the playoffs last year or just recently, etc.)

- We knew going into this season that, although expectations were going to be higher after last season, the losses were going to affect this team...

- That said, if it's the chemistry, why didn't it affect the team in October and November?

- Trade Crosby? Are you kidding me? There's a reason why there's going to be 18,087 seats in the new arena. It's ridiculous to suggest that either he or Malkin should go anywhere, so please put that idea to rest.

- Mostly in response to southernburgh's comment about cancelling Center Ice (but in response to anyone who is so fed up with the losing that they say that they are "ashamed" of being a Pens fan) - you're giving up on this team after a month of losing? Really? Please don't come back and praise them when they start winning again. (I'd add more to that, but name-calling isn't appropriate)

Yes, I realize that there are a lot of problems with this team right now, but let's be realistic... this is NOT going to last forever. The Pens exceeded expectations last year, but it wasn't a fluke. This team, especially with Crosby and Malkin, is going to be good for a long time.

VaporTrails wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 7:41 AM

It's how they are losing Lauren. Something needs to be done.

Also as far as the complaints, etc. are concerned, fans are venting.

Let them vent. Our comments are just as valid as yours. It therapeutic.

War Penguin wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 8:05 AM

Disgruntled Goat, perhaps you are thinking of Alex Tanguay?

Lauren: I think at this point it's legitimate at this point to wonder if Therrien is at a loss with this team.  Of course, it's also legitimate to ask how much the coach can be held responsible for what appears to be an issue of some players not stepping up the way they should.

My personal thought is that outside some fairly egregious circumstances, it's not okay (or at least, not nice) to wish for someone to lose their job.  If Therrien goes, I'll feel sorry for him that he couldn't make things work.  (But also glad if the replacement does make things work.)

Disgruntled Goat wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 10:31 AM

@ War Penguin - I was making a sarcastic post about rumors you hear from people and the crazy stuff that gets posted on the internet.

Thank you for your concern.

War Penguin wrote re: Rangers 4, Penguins 0 - 1-5-09
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 11:01 AM

Ah, I missed the "started by me" parenthetical the first time.  I figured you had accidentally typed a similar name.  It's easy to do - just ask Dave Molinari!

You're welcome.

Empty Netters wrote 2008-09 - A game-by-game recap - 6-22-09
on Mon, Jun 22 2009 10:04 AM

For Penguins fans, the 2008-09 season was quite unlike anything they've ever seen. There were sicking