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Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08

For any Center Ice Customers outside the Pittsburgh market but within the United States, today's post is for you. If you recall last season, when the NHL Network was unveiled within the United States, the network aired several games from across the league. Some of those were Penguins games.

For Center Ice Customers outside of Pittsburgh, that meant you couldn't get those Penguins games on NHL Network through the programming you paid $160 for. (Sorry, $159.)

In order to get those games, you had to get NHL Network separately from Center Ice. (Assuming your cable or satellite provider even offered the channel.) And when you subscribe to NHL Network, you also have to subscribe to the "sports" package that most providers offer.You want NHL Network? You have to buy it along with the Tennis Channel and the 234 other channels you won't watch. Unless you're really into squash tournaments in Dubai in January.

We haven't yet confirmed this would be the arrangement for this season yet with one of the money-grubbing pigs with the NHL, but we would be shocked if things are different this season. The NHL is a business above all else. A poorly-run business that does a terrible job of servicing its paying customers, but a business nonetheless. We will try and contact someone with the NHL to verify all of this.

We bring this up because tomorrow's Penguins-Senators game will be shown nationally by NHL Network. If you live within the Pittsburgh market, don't sweat. FSN Pittsburgh has the local broadcast. But if you live elsewhere within the United States and you're a Center Ice customer, we just wanted to give you a heads up.

UPDATE: We just talked to an official with the NHL. Games on national networks within the United States such as NBC, NHL Network and Versus (snicker), ARE NOT AVAILABLE through Center ice again this season. So if you were planning on watching tomorrow's game through your Center Ice package, you'll need to make alternative plans.

EMPTY NETTER ASSISTS

Penguins

-They shrank the rink the Penguins are going to play on in Sweden to meet NHL standards. The only problem is, they shrank it too much.

-Evgeni Malkin and Brooks Orpik are your alternate captains.

-Paul Bissonnette doesn't exactly sound too eager to fight former Penguins enforcer Georges Laraque.

-The Pensblog offered their always entertaining season preview.

-It's been a long summer for Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins defenseman T.J. Kemp.

-Wilkes-Barre/Scranton forward Adam Heinrich can do a little bit of everything.

-The Wheeling Nailers announced their training camp schedule.

-Former Penguins forward Matthew Barnaby is set to debut on ESPN Oct. 8.

-Maxime Talbot. Smoking Hot Burgher?

-The Penguins scouted a Blue Jackets game last night. The Blue Jackets have a surplus on defense. Hmmmm...

-For the record, we would love to see the Pengins pick up Ole-Kristian Tollefsen simply because his name is so awesome. And he would be the first Norwegian member of the Penguins in team history.

-Ross McKeon of Yahoo! thinks the Penguins and Red Wings will suffer from a Stanley Cup hangover.

-Are the Penguins shaping up to be the next Oilers?

Atlantic Division

-The Islanders signed 2008 first round pick Josh Bailey to a three-year entry level deal.

-Islanders goaltender Rick DiPietro (right) will make his preseason debut Monday. It will be his first game action since undergoing hip and knee surgery in the offseason.

-The Flyers demoted forward Claude Giroux to their AHL affiliate.

Northeast Division

-Former Penguins goaltender Patrick Lalime made 27 saves for the Sabres in a 5-2 win at Columbus.

-Maple Leafs defenseman Jeff Finger is dealing with a foot injury.

-Toronto's management wants forward Ryan Hollweg to fight less.

-Bruins forward Petteri Nokelainen (hip/groin) and defenseman Mark Stuart (leg) are dealing with injuries.

-Daniel Alfredsson scored a goal and had an assist for the Senators in a 4-1 preseason win over Swedish team Frolunda.

-Forward Brad Isbister did not report to the Senators' AHL affiliate in Binghamton.

-Ottawa owner Eugene Melnyk wants to make Alfredsson a Senator for life.

-Are the Senators a Stanley Cup contender?

-Check out this insane save Montreal goaltender Carey Price made the other night:


 
-Montreal's Georges Laraque is getting healthier.

-The Habs need former Penguins forward Alex Kovalev to come up big this season.

Southeast Division

-Here's a shocker. A team in Florida signed another ex-Penguin. The Lightning are ou... wait. What? It's the Panthers this time? The Panthers signed forward Karl Stewart.

-The Capitals are considering using Sergei Fedorov, a forward by trade, as a defenseman.

-Speaking of Capitals defensemen, ESPN recently compared Washington's Mike Green to former Penguins hall-of-famer Paul Coffey. Uhhh... Note quite.

-The Thrashers' 2008 first round pick, defenseman Zach Bogosian, will benefit from playing alongside Mathieu Schneider.

-Atlanta is expecting big things out of defenseman Ron Hainsey.

-Thrashers prospect and former Penguins first round draft pick Angelo Esposito will spend this season with the Montreal Juniors of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. (Last note.)

-Hurricanes defenseman Niclas Wallin is dealing with a concussion.

-The Lightning named forward Martin St. Louis and defenseman Andrej Meszaros as alternate captains.

-Earlier this week, Lightning forward and former Penguin Ryan Malone got into a fight with Richie Regehr of Berliner Eisbaren, a team in Germany. Regehr, the brother of Flames defenseman Robyn Regehr, checked a Lightning player from behind into the boards and Malone took the wood to him:


 
Central Division


 
-Red Wings defenseman Chris Chelios (above, center) will be out six weeks with a fracture in his right leg.

-Chelios' injury will actually put the Red Wings under the salary cap.

-The Predators' ownership has defaulted on a $40 million loan. Someone just pull the plug already and move this team to Kansas City or Hamilton or Blawnox or wherever.

-Blackhawks goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin is considering playing in the KHL.

-How easy is it to play in goal for the defensive-minded Blue Jackets? Columbus is suiting up a 56-year-old Catholic bishop between the pipes.

-Blues forward Jay McClement can squat press more than Orpheus Roye.

Northwest Division

-Wild goaltender Josh Harding has a scratched cornea.

-Oilers forward Ales Hemsky finally has some help.

-After being injured on and off the past two seasons, Edmonton forward Ethan Moreau is taking it easy this preseason.

-We can kind of understand Penguins fans blaming the loss of free agents like Ryan Malone and Jarkko Ruutu on Marian Hossa. The Oilers blaming the loss of forward Curtis Glencross is ridiculous.

-The Canucks will unveil a new third jersey Nov. 15.

Pacific Division

-Forward Bobby Ryan might not make the Ducks' roster simply because he makes too much money.

-The Globe and Mail is reporting the NHL will keep a keen eye on any potential transactions between the Ducks and Maple Leafs this season. Ducks general manager Brian Burke has been connected in rumors surrounding the same job with the Maple Leafs.

-Stars forward Sean Avery went off on CBC commentator Don Cherry. This is like Fidel Castro complaining about Muammar al-Gaddafi. There really is not side to root for.

-The Stars' ticket sales are up 45 percent from last season.

-Sharks defenseman Rob Blake is happy to be playing the point again.

Smythe Division

-Tickets for the 2010 Olympic Games in Vancouver officially go on sale today.

-You probably shouldn't put too much weight into preseason games.

-Remember how we told you former Penguins forward Aleksey Morozov is tearing up the KHL this season yesterday? Here's the proof:


 
(Photos: Getty Images)


Posted Oct 03 2008, 06:53 AM by Seth Rorabaugh

Comments

The Confluence wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 8:46 AM

Seth, it is a minor pain in the tookus for us out of Pittsburgh Center Ice'ers to have to have the Sports Package, but in fairness, let's be faithful that the NHL hasn't come close to the greed of MLB or the NFL just yet.  With both MLB Extra Inning and NFL Sunday Ticket, you can't get the games in HD unless you purchase their additional packages, such as "Superfan", which runs another 100 clams.  At least the NHL still allows us to watch the games in HD for the same price.

Nick Fruscello wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 9:08 AM

I used to drool over the idea of having every game available to watch each night, but this is one of the reasons I quit buying Center Ice.  It used to carry every game all the time and was $160 ($120 if you buy it in the first week, I think).  The price is the same and now we have less games.  If Center Ice can't get the rights to show the games on VS and NHL network, they need to lower their price.  People are not going to pay the same and get less.

stagerat wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 9:32 AM

ok, strange side comment: I believe the Columbus Dispatch moved the Holy Goalie story on ya, so I tracked it down. They moved one to the Faith and Values section which may explain how you missed it... the other was at their Puck Rakers Blog:

www.dispatch.com/.../holygoalie.ART_ART_10-03-08_B7_2MBFOJH.html

blog.dispatch.com/.../holy_goalie.shtml

Don't ask why I had to track them down, it's an Ex-Catholic, hockey fan thing and it's really complicated...

Seth Rorabaugh wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 9:46 AM

Stagerat,

Thanks for the heads up. I would've never caught that.

You +1

RCheli wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 10:15 AM

Since I'm lucky enough to have the NHL Network, I can't complain so much, but I can see how it will suck for many others.

The problem is, I think, that many of these fringe specialty cable channels really make it difficult for companies to carry them because they just charge too much.

Also, the NHL Network, while it has decent content, must be struggling in the US. How do I know this? Well, they can't sell enough advertising throughout the day because they're always playing those silly filler 2-3 minute programs over and over and over again about Gretzky's 50 goals in 39, Coffey's record-setting goal scoring year, Sittler's 10 points in one game, the Ace Baily injury, and Tom Barrasso's career (am I missing any?).

Seth Rorabaugh wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 10:22 AM

RC,

Thankfully, they cut back on the Darryl Sittler one. That was seemingly the only one they had in the first few months of the Network's U.S. existence.

BringBackColby wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 10:40 AM

I don't understand why the NHL can't just add the NHL network as a channel included with the Center Ice Package.

Seth Rorabaugh wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 10:56 AM

BBC,

Simple. Money. The NHL wants you to pay for two separate products instead of just one.

StuckInPhilly wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 11:15 AM

this is gonna be my 1st year watching the reg season outside of the 'Burgh.  I was thinking of getting Dish network, and i saw they carried FSN Pittsburgh.   Anyone else using dish?  Can anyone confirm I can watch the Penguins games on FSN if I get Dish Network with the FSN PGH plan?

thank you

kstewy16 wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 11:25 AM

hahaha, that malone video wasn't a fight. That was assault with a deadly weapon. Did the other guy even get his gloves off before he was on the ground? Malone just wanted to mess him up for what he did.

RCheli wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 11:47 AM

"Thankfully, they cut back on the Darryl Sittler one. That was seemingly the only one they had in the first few months of the Network's U.S. existence."

Did you know that before every game he usually ate pasta and steak but he was running errands that day and only had time for fried chicken? Did you know that? Did you!?!?!?!

Phrases from those things run through my mind throughout the day. "An enraged Shore went after the nearest Maple Leaf"... "Gretzky's assault on the record book" ... "He has 50 before anyone else has 30!"

Ali wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 1:04 PM

Any info on how the new Game Centre Live offered over the interent through nhl.com is going to work out???  As an out of state Penguins fan, and someone without the luxury of choosing what cable they get -- it's going to have to work -- I guess however, it's better than nothing... the worst thing is, it doesn't go "on air" until next weekend...

MattMc wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 1:22 PM

I have Direct TV and get the NHL Network without extra subscription.  It is a sucky, sucky network though.  I think there are a total of 3 commercials they show along with the 5 shows.

puckman66 wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 1:36 PM

I have Dish Network and Center Ice, and it looks like NHL Network is included as channel 625 this year on the Center Ice package.  So far the channel has showed up, I will let you know what happens on 10/4.

jefe82 wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Fri, Oct 3 2008 3:28 PM

i missed several games last year because of the blackouts to nhl network which i didnt have..

this year i switched to Dish and Center Ice, and NHL NETWORK does come with it as puckman stated. but thats not my problem this time because i dont believe they are showing many pens games this year.

its VERSUS that i dont have now, and they are broadcasting 8 penguins games this season. and those will be blacked out as well. i will spend a couple hundred at the bar because of this, and probably with no sound. F U whoever is in charge.

Terry Neary wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Sat, Oct 4 2008 10:12 AM

If you have a satellite service, you get the NHL Network along with your purchase of Center Ice.   However, those of us who rely on those theives from Comcast must pay the extra eight bucks foir the "Sport and Entertainment (their words, not mine) Package".  And yet Comcast is a part owner of the channel in the US!!  

Another thing i noticed looking at the NHL Net's schedule of games:  now they will be televising all of the weekend CBC doubleheaders.  I guess it doesn't matter what channel they're on, as long as I get to see them, but wasn't that one of the major selling points over the years for Center Ice...you'd get all of the Canadian TV games?  This schedule looks like it's mostly CBC and TSN telecasts.  Not that I consider Center Ice a ripoff, because you still get hundreds of games. But what about the person who buys the package but doesn't have access to the NHL Net?  Now they lose  some Pens (or whatever team they like) games plus Hockey Night In Canada.  What garbage...

puckman66 wrote re: Center Ice customers beware - 10-3-08
on Sun, Oct 5 2008 9:02 AM

Seth,

The game was available on Center Ice on Dish Network channel 625.  Not sure if this was an exception for the overseas game, but it was there.