Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game

OK, I got a lot of responses on my “Ten worst losses for Pitt since I started covering the team in 2002 a few weeks back” and the comments I got the most were “Why do you have to be so negative?” and “How could you leave all four of the Rutgers losses off the list”.

To the second point first, the four Rutgers losses – I think Pitt should have won at least two of them but really let's examine them closer and when we do, I think you'll see why none of them really deserved to be in the top ten (though last year's could have been honorable mention) –

2005 - Pitt got down like 28-0 or something and came back and lost by only a touchdown. Yes, the Panthers played poorly in the first half, but really, it was more a matter of dropped passes and turnovers – and Rutgers making a few big plays – than anything I would call “head-scratching” or “mind-boggling.” Pitt just got beat up that night.

2006 - A bad Pitt team played its tail off against a team that was within a few points of winning the Big East title. The Panthers even had a chance to win as they trailed only 13-10 until Ray Rice, a great player, made a great play and went about 70 yards up the middle. Nothing to be ashamed of in this one as a win would have been a very nice - and surprising -- upset.

2007 – In all of my years of covering Pitt, I’ve never uttered these words about any game but this one – Big East officials robbed the Panthers. I don't believe officials cost games, I don't buy into referee conspiracy theories, but, the phantom pass interference call on Oderick Turner at the end of the game (it would have been the game-winning touchdown as Pitt trailed by four and more importantly was one of a handful of glaringly bad calls that the Big East reviewed at the end of the year that got the ball rolling to some of the changes made in the official linuep of referees as well as the philosophy and way refereeing in the Big East would be approached as a new regime began), thrown by an official halfway up the sidelines and late, is one of the worst and most ridiculous calls I’ve ever witnessed. Pitt should have won this game but got hosed. That’s not really on the Panthers, especially since this was a team with all of those quarterback issues which fought hard and never quit. It deserved better.

2008 – Pitt took a “you know what” kicking. That’s the bottom line. If there was something a bit disappointing about this game it was that the defensive game plan made no sense and was not adjusted, or at least didn’t appear to be adjusted until it was too late. Despite that, Pitt had a chance until two late turnovers – one by Aaron Berry on a punt and an interception thrown by Pat Bostick – sealed its fate. This one could have made the list probably given the fact that it wasn’t the smartest game played by Pitt, but Mike Teel was on fire that day and sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the other team’s scholarship players because they make plays, too.

 

Now, to the first point – about me being too negative – it is laughable, particularly since I have an inbox full of e-mails from angry out of town fans (particularly from fans of that team in the middle of the state who swears they don't care about Pitt) calling me a homer. I just call it as I see it. But to prove I am a kinder, gentler beat reporter, and in the interest of fairness, here is a list of “Pitt’s ten best wins” since I started covering the team in 2002……

 

1.)    Pitt 13, West Virginia 9 (2007) – What more can be said about this one? In all my years of covering this team, this is the only game which I can say the outcome took me totally by surprise. I make predictions, some are wrong and some are right (of course, I always hear about it when I am wrong) but even when I make predictions, I almost always can come up with an argument for how it could go the other way. But I remember talking about this game leading up to and saying "I just can't see any realisitc scenario in which Pitt wins this one" and if you didn't say the same thing or something similar, you are lying. One could argue that this game changed the landscape of college football because -- if WVU wins it goes to national title game (and probably beats Ohio State). Rich Rodriguez is likely still at WVU, Les Miles, whose team would not have been going to a national title game, likely is at Michigan, Bo Pelini might be the head coach at LSU and not Nebraska....And just because I know it never gets old for Pitt fans.....

     

     

 

     

      And here are a few clips, one of the game and a few of the aftermath from the winning and losing sides, starting with this clip of the losing coach trying to explain what happened while listening to the Pitt players celebrate:

    

       

     

      And of course, that was the most disheartened I've seen a coach in a postgame since, well, 2001 when I covered WVU and the same coach had a hard time talking about the fact that the Mountaineers had just been upset by Temple in Morgantown.

     

     Oh, and here are a few shots of the locker room celebration -- thankfully for Pitt's sake the players proved to be much better at playing football that night than they were at dancing and singing.

      

     

   

     

2.)   Pitt 16, West Virginia 13 (2004) - Yes, the Panthers technically clinced the BCS berth the next week down in Tampa but this was for all intents and purposes the battle for the Big East championship. And this was also the last home game coached by Walt Harris. WVU came in highly ranked but were without a couple of their high-profile knuckleheads (I think both Chris Henry and Pac Man were suspended for this game) and the Panthers, led by Tyler Palko scored late to come-from-behind and win the game.

3.)   Pitt 20 Boston College 17 (2004) - Pitt had won some games during this season in dramatic fashion but it wasn't until this game - complete with the Tyler Palko running over the safety on the sideline - that the Panthers showed they were not only tough enough, but resiliant enough to beat a really good team. The Panthers went the distance to get back into this game then won it with a Josh Cummings kick in overtime. This is the game that really got them headed in the direction of the Fiesta Bowl.

4.)    Pitt 31 Virginia Tech 28 (2003) - The game lost a little bit of luster because the Panthers got smacked around by Miami a few weeks later but what more can be said -- Lousaka Polite up the middle for a late touchdown to win the game. ESPN Gameday was in town and the victory put the Panthers in position to win the Big East. But like we said - the Hurricanes spoiled the party.

 5.)   Pitt 24, Cincinnati 17 (2007) - People laugh when I talk about this win being a big one for Pitt, but remember the Panthers were pretty bad this year and the Bearcats were ranked and on their way to a 10-win season. This was one of the best defensive efforts of any of the teams I've covered and frankly I'd say this game - not the West Virginia upset a few weeks earlier - was the turning point for the Dave Wannstedt era because it showed that he had indeed recruited a good group of talented players and if they could get a little better play from their quarterback, they could be a good team. 

 6.) Pitt 41, Notre Dame 38 (2004) - This game produced two of the all-time classic lines from Tyler Palko - and not the one you are thiking about. Palko, who was one of the most quotable players I've ever covered, a guy you just had to let the tape roll and he'd give you something good, was asked that week leading up to the game about the tradition and mystique of Notre Dame and his response was "That's for the birds, bro..." which, no doubt, got under the skin of more than a few Irish fans and pundits. Then, after the game he dropped the now-famous F-bomb but that next summer when he was asked about it he produced this "You know, Notre Dame fans were mad at me for swearing on national television. They should have been mad at me for throwing five touchdowns against their defense." That was classic.

 7.) Pitt 28, Virginia Tech 21 (2002) - This was the coming out party on national television for a freshman receiver named Larry Fitzgerald and probably one of the best road wins of the Walt Harris era. Actually, this is one of the best road wins of the past 20 years. Fitzgerald had three touchdown receptions and the Panthers proved that when they played mistake-free (something they didn't always do that season) that they could be a very good football team.

 8.)    Pitt 21, Iowa 20 (2008) - This game answered a lot of questions about the mental toughness of the 2008 team and laid the groundwork for what was a very successful season. It also taught this team how to win games. Every season has a point where it turns for the better or worse -- this is where the season really took a big step forward. It also wiped away the bad taste from the loss to Bowling Green a few weeks earlier. And one other thing - it gave Greg Cross his 15 minutes of fame thanks to one highlight reel play.

9.)    Pitt 36, Notre Dame 33, OT (2008) - It is always a big deal to win at Notre Dame. But to come from behind and do it and do it in overtime was pretty impressive, especially considering it looked like the Panthers were in big trouble, down 17-3 at the half. And imagine the simplicity - yet brilliance -- of throwing three fade patterns in a row to Jonathan Baldwin before it finally worked for the game-tying touchdown to send it to overtime.

10.)   Pitt 41, Furman 38 (2004), OT –  An overtime win over a I-AA team? I know, but before you say "are you nuts" hear me out. This was the game that the team matured and learned how to win - and those things came in handy down the stretch when they won four games coming from behind in the fourth quarter. Pitt was down by 17 in the second half in this game but, behind Palko, came storming back and won the game in overtime. Walking off the field I said to one of the people next to me that "the Panthers learned how to win today" and I really believe this is when that team - which went on to get to the Fiesta Bowl - came together and rallied behind Palko.

Honorable Mention: Pitt 38, Oregon State 13 (2002 Insight Bowl); This year - Pitt 41, USF 14

AND FINALLY, HERE IS THE ABC COVERAGE MAP FOR THE PITT-NOTRE DAME GAME.

    The game will be shown in 83 percent of the country, so that's a lot of television sets:

ABC Coverage map


Posted Nov 13 2009, 02:03 AM by Paul Zeise

Comments

Carl W wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 8:20 AM

Great list, Paul, though I'm surprised that you didn't include the Pitt-Notre Dame Palko F-Bomb game on the list, at least as an honorable mention.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 8:33 AM

agree with Carl W.  I believe the 05 game (could be wrong) at Rutgers was due in large part to some questionable scheduling by the BE.  Rutgers had a bye and 2 weeks to prepare while Pitt had to travel to Rutgers on a short week for a Friday night game.

Hopefully, the list of best Pitt wins will change by a few games by January.

Paul Zeise wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 9:01 AM

Carl - that game - along with the 2002 va. Tech game for some reason got accidently deleted when I transferred the copy from Microsoft Word into this file. Good looking out as I only had eight games and now the list is complete. -- PZ

PittNH wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 9:30 AM

Paul...not to nitpick, but the game immediately after the 2003 VaTech game was at WVU and RichRod hung a half-century on the panthers.  2003 was the year I lost all faith in Paul Rhoads on defense and I think Walt sealed his fate that year.  To not finish in the top 25 was very bad.  That was the year for Walt's run, kind of like this is the year for Wanny's run.

apm74 wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 10:43 AM

Because of what they had just accomplished (and not because of their singing prowess), the video of the team singing the Victory Song in the locker room after 13-9 is one of my all-time favorites.

Paul Zeise wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 11:04 AM

PittNH - You are right, the next week after Va Tech they lost to WVU but if you recall, the Miami game a few weeks later was still for a bid to the Orange Bowl and the way Pitt got smacked around sort of the sucked the wind out of that season - and they ended up going to Charlotte and played one of their least inspired games in quite some time against Virginia.

The thing about that West Virginia game is it turned completely in the Mountaineers favor late in the second half when Princell Brokenbrough dropped a sure touchdown pass from Rutherford.

jdm58 wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 11:49 AM

Great list. Hope to add Pitt over Cincy to clinch the Orange/Sugar in a few weeks.

jdm58 wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 11:55 AM

One other thing--any interest in a top ten players list from 2002 onward? Mine--

Larry, Revis, Shady, HB, McKillop, Palko, Ramon Walker, Rutherford, Conor Lee, Mick Williams. I know I missed someone, help me out!

Fail Pitt wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 3:14 PM

This is an impressive list.  But how can you forget Pitt's 8-4 win over Bethel Park in 2003 to clinch the Quad West co-championship with Upper St. Clair?  Or the 6-3 win over Woodland Hills to reach the WPIAL semi-finals in 2006?  Those were milestone wins in the rough and tumble Big East Conference and should not be overlooked.

Seriously, Furman?  Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Imma_Man_Im_40 wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 5:39 PM

Another honorable mention candidate for best win since 2002: the 11-point road win over Texas A&M in 2003, with the whole country watching.  Sure, it turned out that year’s Aggies team wasn’t the best; and the game had no Big East implications like the others you listed.  But winning in an environment like Kyle Field in College Station is always special.  And not easy: just ask Texas.

Imma_Man_Im_40 wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Fri, Nov 13 2009 5:47 PM

Speaking of highly dubious refs calls: 13-9 was even worse than Rutgers, the win almost stolen by a series of phantom PI calls.  Remember?  Even the announcers began denouncing the refs (that's not normal).

That game was made even more special by Pitt having to beat the 'neers and the stripes.

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belmont_sledgehammer wrote re: Pitt's Top Ten Wins Since 2002 - Plus an ABC coverage map for Pitt-Notre Dame game
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 12:52 AM

I know this probably won't be a popular admission, but great as the WVU win was, I've always thought it likely did more harm than good. Had WVU made (and possibly even won) the title game, it would have brought some MUCH needed credibility to the conference. That'd have likely made the BE a much more attractive destination for big time recruits and enabled the conference champ to get themselves an invite to future BCS games when warranted (as opposed to this year when even an undefeated Cincy team has 0 chance of going.)

Seems like the win may have been necessary to ensure DW keeps his job, but may have also shot themselves in the foot to spite their face (or whatever the saying is...)