Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

Pitt beat UConn 24-21 in dramatic fashion Saturday and while the Panthers struggled in the first half, they showed a lot of resolve in the second half and it could be the kind of win that the Panthers draw on late in the season when they get in another tight situation in the fourth quarter.

That being said, let's take a look at The Good, Bad and Ugly from the Connecticut game.....

The Good

 

** Coming from down 15 points against a good defensive team and doing it the way the Panthers did it was impressive. As I’ve written before – the Panthers needed three drives (and a two-point conversion) and also needed the defense to pitch a fourth-quarter shut-out and they got it done. It is one thing to come from behind when the other team hands you a turnover or makes a mistake and allows a long touchdown. But when you drive 68 yards or more three times in a row – well, that’s when the other team needs to tip its hat and say “you won because you deserved to.” Good teams find a way when they don’t play their best and the Panthers certainly can play a lot better than they did Saturday – but they won despite that.

 

** Dan Hutchins. Like I wrote before – I think he answered any lingering questions about his ability to kick under pressure with his game winner. He had a total of ten points and as important as the game winner, he showed he has a little bit of range with the 42-yard field goal earlier in the game. And it goes without saying that his punting has been tremendous this year as he really is good at kicking directionally and pinning teams. Hutchins doesn’t have the strongest leg we’ve seen but he is accurate and dependable and consistent and those things are far more important.

 

** Bill Stull became the leader of this team in the third quarter after he threw the pick six and then watched the Huskies take a 21-6 lead. Consider this – On the final three drives, Stull was 10-for-10, 143 yards and two touchdowns and he also completed the two-point conversion to Cedric McGee. That is championship-level quarterback play.

 

** I’m out of words to describe how good Ray Graham and Dion Lewis are and have been. For those two kids, freshman less than halfway through their first season, to perform at such a high level with so much at stake on Saturday was impressive. These two are special players and frankly Pitt fans should be excited at the prospects of watching them for the next three or four years. I think the thing that is most impressive is their toughness, how hard they run and how hard they play. A lot of times freshman are still learning how to play physical and play consistently tough but these two haven’t had a problem with that transition at all.

 

** Nate Byham and Mike Shanahan showed that on top of the known weapons like Jonathan Baldwin and Dorin Dickerson, this team can beat defenses in a lot of ways. Byham and Shanahan both had clutch catches and big runs after the catch. This is the best complete set of skill position players – receivers, tight ends, backs – that Pitt has had since I started covering them in 2002.

 

** Jarred Holley and Myles Caragein showed up and made some very big plays. The stars – Mick Williams, Gus Mustakas, Jabaal Sheard, Greg Romeus and Adam Gunn – on defense also showed up in a big way but the two young kids played very, very important roles filling in for injuries and both played extremely well.

 

** Pitt’s offensive line. I know there are two great defensive fronts on the horizon for this group but the line has played consistently well. John Malecki and Joe Thomas have been rock solid on this unit and Jason Pinkston has performed at an all-conference level so far. Lucas Nix has a big upside and continues to improve and Robb Houser has been consistent, which is what they need from him. This unit should get better each week and if it stays healthy should be one of the best in the conference by the end of the season.

 

** Dave Wannstedt – Say whatever want to about him – and judging from my e-mails some of you have a lot to say – but he seems to have finally got this thing rolling. And I think the six come-from-behind wins over the past two seasons says a lot about the toughness of this team and it also says something about the fact that he hasn’t panicked. Pitt is 15-5 in its last 20 games and there are a lot of good wins in there. He deserves credit for a lot of that and for recruiting a lot of the players. I think he’s done a good job of building a good foundation for the program to become a consistent Big East contender.

 

The Bad

 

** Falling behind a team like Connecticut by 15 points when the game should have been over by the middle of the second quarter. Pitt dropped a touchdown pass (Dion Lewis) on the first drive, missed a touchdown pass on the second drive (Bill Stull missed a wide open Jonathan Baldwin in the endzone) and missed a touchdown pass on the third drive (Stull overthrew Nate Byham in the endzone on the third drive then didn’t see him wide open in the endzone when he threw the interception in the endzone). Pitt should have been ahead 21-0 at that point – and the game would have been over given Connecticut’s limitations – but instead led only 3-0.

 

** Ricky Gary got beat on the Huskies long touchdown pass and unfortunately that continues a trend in which Pitt is giving up big plays in the passing game far too often this season. I don’t know if Gary thought he had help or not, but Connecticut’s receiver ran right past him and it was an easy throw and catch.

 

** They had three tries from inside the 2 down on the goal line at the end of the game and had to settle for a field goal. The unintended good part of that was they ran out the clock and kicked a field goal as time expired but punching it in is something this team needs to do better at. Twice earlier in the game the Panthers had first-and-goals – a first-and-goal at the 3 in the first half and a first-and-goal from the 8 in the third quarter – and they couldn’t punch it in those two times either. So the goal-to-go package, whatever it is (and again, the fact that Jonathan Baldwin isn’t on the field for most of it is mind boggling) needs some definite tweaking.

 

** Pitt’s defense got the stops it needed late in the game. But that doesn’t forgive this – trailing 14-6 in the third quarter and needing a stop, the Panthers allowed Connecticut to march 61 yards on eight plays – seven of those eight for 40 of those 61 yards were running plays – and score to go up 21-6. The fact that Connecticut was able to run right at the Panthers and have this kind of success is a little bit alarming because that is not supposed to happen.

 

The Ugly

 

** Pitt has cleaned up the penalties significantly but still took a few really dumb ones – none worse than Nate Byham’s 15-yard penalty that erased about half of Dion Lewis’s 60+ yard run late in the third quarter. The penalty was bad on several levels, specifically that it took place BEHIND the play and thus there was no reason for Byham to “block” (he said he just blocked the guy and the guy fell down). Pitt eventually scored on that drive but that’s the kind of penalty you absolutely cannot take in a close game.

 

** The fade pattern to Jonathan Baldwin was poorly thrown. I also didn’t like it being called on third down in that situation. Despite that, Baldwin probably should have drawn a pass interference penalty – the ref explained to Pitt’s sideline that the ball was “uncatchable” which was a little strange considering Baldwin did catch the ball with one hand but was pushed out of bounds. This is a play that Pitt needs to continue to develop, particularly since the Panthers have failed in these short yardage goal line situations – even when they give the ball to Henry Hynoski.

 

** I know that there are a lot of great Pitt fans who are loyal to their team and root for them and support them and stick by them. This is not about that group and you know who you are. And frankly, they were the ones who remained at Heinz Field even after Bill Stull threw his pick six and frankly, the stadium was electric in the fourth quarter because the crowd was really into the game.

 

But here is the shocking reality – the Panthers were 4-1 coming into this game (so the, “Pitt isn’t very good” excuse doesn’t fly), it was at 3:30 (not noon so the ‘we were hung over’ or ‘we had youth sports in the morning’ excuses don’t fly), it was a beautiful day (so the “bad weather” was not an excuse), Matt Cavanaugh works for the Jets now (so the “this offense is boring and unimaginative” excuse doesn’t fly) and the Panthers were playing their Big East home opener against a solid team that always gives them fits (so the “we didn’t want to pay money for a bad game” excuse is bunk as well) – yet there were only 44,000 and some change in attendance.

 

That is embarrassing for a program of this level.

 

And just to put that into perspective, Rutgers…Rutgers for crying out loud…..drew 51,000 and some change Saturday for their home game against the Texas-Pan American Southern El Paso West Canaan Coyotes or whoever the heck they played. Oh I know, but, but, but – “that was their homecoming game.” Give me a break. There is no good reason there shouldn’t have been 55,000 to 60,000 at Heinz Field on Saturday. That was a shame to see because this team deserves better (and the quarterback at this point deserves better than he got from a few – and it was only a few but a few too many -- of you as well). The team is 15-5 in its last 20 games – that isn’t too shabby by any standard and it is amazing that more fans are interested in watching it play.

 

** Of course, worse than that was the number of people (stop sending me e-mails that I must be making things up because I work for a “paper with a Penn State agenda” because you just sound silly and you know who you are) who hit the exits as soon as the Panthers fell two touchdowns behind. The ones who stayed behind were loud and into the game but you’d hope more people would stay around to watch a team that has made a habit of coming from behind and winning these days.

 

** The N.C. State loss looks worse and worse every week. As we said leading up to the game and even after it – N.C. State is mediocre team, at best, and now we’re starting to think we were even too generous in that assessment. The reality of that situation is this – N.C. State has played four Division I-A opponents – South Carolina, Pitt, Wake Forest and Duke and well, lost to three of those four. Saturday they got blown out, at home, by Duke – the same Duke which lost to Richmond……


Posted Oct 13 2009, 01:36 PM by Paul Zeise

Comments

collegesportsfan wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Tue, Oct 13 2009 2:52 PM

Paul,  I agree with everything in this blog article with the blatant exception of this alleged mass exodus of Pitt fans when they were 2 TDs down in the 3rd quarter.  You even wrote in game account on Sunday that only about half of the fans stayed for the comeback ... the fact is that I have never seen you be so inaccurate, including the many times you told us how dominating the defense was going to  be in preaseason.

I agree it was a shame that only 44,000 attended, but I'll guarantee you that no more than 15%, at the most, left.  As evidence, I invite you to watch Crunch Time on ESPNU which shows almost the entire final drive.  If you look in the background at all parts of the drive, you can see very few empty seats in the lower level ..at least 95% were filled.  The corner of the upper level was vacated, but it was empty the entire game.  It was like you (and Cook) attended a whole different game in this matter ...and haven't read anything like this in any other game account.

Again,I am in total accord with everything else you wrote, good,bad or ugly ... but just continue to shake my head here.

MN_Pittman wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Tue, Oct 13 2009 3:29 PM

Paul, if Pitt wants 55,000 to 60,000 fans to show up for these kind of games then they need to stop televising the home games that aren't sold out, period!  As soon as I found out this game was going to be televised locally, I said to myself, "good luck getting 50,000 plus fannies in the seats for this game." and sure enough only 44,000 people showed up.  I guarantee you if this game had no local tv, then you would have seen a crowd closer to 60,000.  Whoever is making the decision to televise home games that aren't sold out is killing Pitt right now.  Also,  I would expect the same size crowd for SF, now that the game is going to be on tv too.  It just makes no sense to me...

Ether wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Tue, Oct 13 2009 4:26 PM

Regarding the attendance, I too was dissappointed.  I think there was several factor - Steelers being out of town but close enough to drive to, television, the opponent - but I think two things worked against Pitt in regards to this:

1. The students being on fall break.  It looks like at least 3,000 were missing due to that.

2. The loss to NC State.  We were told (turns out, accurately) that NC State was a mediocre team.  Well, Pitt holds a big lead to them, blows it, is given a gift at the end, still blows it.  I'm sure there's a good 5000-10,000 that said "Same ol' Pitt" after that loss.  The inabllity to consistently win, especially at home, is what kills Pitt's attendence.

tma wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Tue, Oct 13 2009 6:36 PM

Paul,

You told to wait for this section and as usual, I agree with the assessment overall.  I thought your initial notes after the game were a little too positive, so this is the objective report that I was looking forward to.  I have been a Pitt fan for many years and have several degrees from the school, and Pitt fans, like the some Jet fans, will only support a winner.  Not to imply that Pitt hasn't blown a game or two!!  I have been heart broken over this team more times than I can remember, but each year I tune in knowing the satisfaction Ill get when they "get there".  I will be at the Rutgers game, keep an eye out for me!

Todd

thisistheyear wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 4:02 AM

This was a good win for pitt.  It wasn't pretty but a win is a win is a win.  This is the kind of game they lost in the past (ie to ohio u or even nc state)   I think it would have been interesting to see if pitt would've been up 21-7 at half if they would have played conseratively in the second half and squandard the lead

Maybe this program is headed in the right direction, we'll see after friday, if pitt has proven one thing over the years, just when you think they are turning the corner they come out and lay an egg.

bDubb wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 9:21 AM

What makes the attendance even more dissapointing is it has to be the best deal in town. Tix on-line were going for $20 for lower level 50 yard line.  I always read on blogs people are pi--ed when the game is at noon...well 3:30 and a beautiful day.  There is why Pitt won't be invited to big bowl games it doesn't have to...fans don't travel

pantherpride wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 10:49 AM

Just a few observations from a Pitt grad:

1) I'm in my late 30's and am as guilty as anyone for this. Those of us who grew up watching Pitt football, 1976, Dan Marino...have these asinine unrealistic expectations of where the program is. Again, I'm as guilty as anyone.

    Think about it...when was the last time Pitt had a GREAT year. 1983. 26 YEARS AGO!!! We Pitt "people" seem to be wired to expect that this is an elite program that has simply been misamanaged and if the right guy wrinkles his nose like Bewitched we should be churning out 11-1 seasons. I know myself....when Pitt hired Wannstadt I boldly proclaimed Pitt was going to be "USC East". I/we act like this team has won a few national championships or even big bowls during this decade...and why oh why can't we get on track?!

    Well, as we all see....it ain't that easy! This program hasn't been elite since Jackie Sherrill left (and by most accounts its a good thing he did or he would have eventually buried it with his chicanery)! It hasn't even been GOOD (no major bowl wins) but only AVERAGE over the past three decades.

    We all need to get over this fetish with thinking Pitt is a finger-snap away from playing Florida for the BCS title. There are a myriad of factors that I won't go into here...but I've retrained my brain...as a loyal Pitt guy....to enjoy this building of this program. Its difficult as I honestly think this is one of the most confounding aspects of the Pittsburgh sports scene...but just because "we are Pitt" does not mean we are guaranteed a 10-win BCS Bowl season on a DOWN year!

2) To make matters worse....in Pitt's "Glory Days" the Penguins and Pitt basketbal were an afterthought. The average sport's fan, imo, simply didn't hold those two entities on a level that they are held now. Basically, in a pro sport's town....Pitt must compete with two more franchises that weren't such a factor 30 years ago. Overall, we all know this isn't a college city....its a pro city. Pitt will always have to fight

that battle. Now having said that....

3) Pitt will always get the loyal schmucks like me, students, and the guy who can take his family to a cheaper alternative high-level football game on a Saturday afternoon....there's not enough of any of those three groups to fill that stadium imo!

    Pitt needs to make things, imo, a little more adult-friendly. A little more of a "pro" environment....at least an option. The family tailgates are nice and is one of the things that makes college football so special. But, I really think the Pitt folks need to yield to the fact that his is a pro sports city....and try to attract that crowd a little more. Try to make Heinz Field a little more "cool" to be at.

    Yep, part of this is serving alcohol at the games. There are people who will gripe and groan about this....but many college stadiums do already....stadiums that are on campus at that and not right smack in the middle of a major urban city. Could there be more trouble....I suppose....but the students are in one section and you simply don't serve alcohol in that section.

    And, even for die-hard Pitt fans....it gets a little old to constantly see time-outs taken up by Pitt sponsors, old-timers in attendance, scores of the Pitt soccer games, etc. I mean NO DISRESPECT as I bleed Pitt blue-and-gold and this stuff should be promo'd....to an extent. How about some bonafide major sport's highlights and coverage in addtion. Show us the LSU-Auburn highlights. Keep everyone updated on hockey, college football, the baseball playoffs, high school football.

    In short, Pitt imo needs to make Heinz Field more of a total sports envirnoment! A place where fans can go and be entertained - even if they didn't graduate from Pitt and/or Pitt is not contending for a national title. Again, a "cool" place to go.

MN_Pittman wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 2:46 PM

I pretty much have to agree with everthing you said pantherpride.  I no longer expect Pitt to become a top 10 power, but finishing in the top 25 every year and cracking the top ten every 4 - 5 years would be nice and certainly seams like an achievable goal.

One more thing about the attendance.  IMHO the upper level of Heinz Field stinks. It takes forever to get up there, you feel like you're a million miles away from the field once you do get up there and if you're way up there it's a very scarry place to be (if you trip and fall you're dead).  Personally, I would much rather watch a game at home on the HD tv (where I can actually see what's going on), than climb the Heinz field mountain to sit in crappy seats, where the players look like ants.

Pitt needs to take a look at the new stadium that the U. of Minnesota just built.  When they were in the Metrodome, they had the same problems with attendance that Pitt does.  Now that they have their 50,000 seat, state of the art gem, on campus, all of the games are sold out.  Heinz Field is to big, and fan unfriendly for Pitt. They will always have an attendence problem there.  It's time to explore other options.

MN_Pittman wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 2:57 PM

Oh, and If you're going to play at a pro stadium then I agree that beer should be served at home games.  Serve it thru half time into the third quarter, then have last call at the 5 minute mark.  I know people who don't go to games simply because they don't serve beer and when I still lived in Pittsburgh and had season tickets at least half of my crew would leave at some point during the game and go back to the lot and tailgate (used to drive me nuts)!

collegesportsfan wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 4:02 PM

bDubb,   couldn't agree with you more about the lack of Pitt support and traveling.  Note that Pitt was actually bowl eligible in 06 (6-6) but no bowl picked them, and actually some teams from non-Bcs conferences were favored.

Also, the Sugar Bowl in '80 went with a 3 loss ND team instead of a 1-loss Pitt team which had already beaten ND.  Pitt had to play in the Gator, whooping on Heisman George  Rogers and South Carolina and finished 2nd nationally against Georgia who won the title by beating ND ... Pitt could have won the title if they had the shot,and beat Georgia (like they did the following year (despite losing the likes of Hugh Green, Ricky Jackson, Bill Neil, Lynn Thomas and C Williamson) all  who started in the NFL as rookies.

GTurner wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 9:14 PM

I really don't want to see beer served at Pitt games.  I know far too many people who say they would never take kids to NFL games because of the "drunk idiots" in the stands.  If selling beer means several thousand more tickets are sold, that also means bringing that same atmosphere that keeps families away.  While I don't have a problem with that for pro football, college gamedays should be as much about alumni, students, and their familes celebrating their alma mater as it is about the game.  If people become uncomfortable taking their kids, then we've lost something.

Then there's the issue of students drinking.  I don't think it's as simple as not serving beer in the student section, unless you intend to put up fences to completely cut off that corner of the stadium.   It might be less of an issue if the games were on campus, since the students wouldn't be driving after the game, but I don't like the idea at all for an off campus activity.

As for showing other sports highlights, pro teams rarely do that, so why should Pitt?  If anything, I'd rather see highlights from Pitt's olympic sports programs.  They could find a way to show more out of town scores, but please, keep the focus on Pitt at Pitt games.

thisistheyear wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 9:31 PM

while i agree with most of what you said pantherpride I disagree with the "we can't be an elite program", "we can't win 10 games".  

look at what louisville did under john l smith and bobby petrino, look at WVU under rich rod, look at USFthe past few years, and Rutgers a few years back was up in the top 10,  how bout Boise State and Utah?  if you get the right coach you can catch lighting in a bottle and be a top program.  

I don't know if wanny is the right guy, but we are a better program now then we have been in a decade or two.  I think wanny is the right coach from sun-fri he just needs to be a better coach on game days.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 9:40 PM

just note that UL, WVU and Boise are like the Oakland As, Fl Marlins and Minnesota Twins .. they have their years but it is much harder to sustain excellence as it would be at USC, Oklahmoa or Bama ...  at least Boise and Utah may not have a great team on certain years and still dominate their conferences.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 9:53 PM

note that USF officials are thrilled that they will have close to 60,000 tomroow night vs USF. (capacity is 66,000)  Note that they are playing a national game on ESPN against the 8th ranked team, are undefeated themselves and actually have a larger enrollment than Pitt's (42,600 vs 25,600)

This is another case with the attendance problem of a college team in a pro city ..and the pro team stinks in this case.

thisistheyear wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Wed, Oct 14 2009 10:50 PM

well I would much rather be the Marlins or the A's then the Pirates the past 17 seasons!  

I would take a top 5 season every 2 out of 5 years and then hang in the top 25 or others receiving votes for the other 3 years.

besides it isn't like the big east is the toughest football conference in the country either.  pitt probably should be in the top quarter of the conference just about every year or say 4 out of every 5 years.

and what about cincinnati, they have been a good program the past few years too, and they were a laughing stock a decade or so ago, heck, penn state used to schedule them, that how bad they were

centralvikings97 wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Thu, Oct 15 2009 3:39 AM

i like that no beer is served...pittsburgh loves beer and not football.. pitt games prove it. id rather be in an empty stadium with a few football fans than a full stadium like a steelers game with overbearing drunk jag-offs.  I also believe the no beer in the open seating (suites,club is exempt)is an NCAA rule..i could be wrong. off those "steeler fans" dont even see half the game cause they are blitzed outta their skull and spend most of the time at the restroom or buying more beer..

as far as heinz itself.. its sucks.. doesnt get loud like pitt stadium or 3 rivers, rooney duped us into buyin his cheap butt a stadium, it should be closed cause no one wants to look at the barren hillside of mt washington in november anyway, the seats even in the 100 level are too tight and i'm only 5'8" 150 lbs, and really ...who designed the stupid open sided cup holders...they were made so you can put a cup with a handle in the holder....which they DONT EVEN SELL at heinz field... so up until this year they took the caps from those $3 20oz waters and i had to drink half of it right away so it wouldnt fall out of the stupid holder. from the outside heinz field looks like crap.  i mean who cares but for as much as that dump cost they could have made it looks as nice as PNC. .i could give two craps about pitt hoops..tear down the pete and give me my stadium back!!!

lastly...the pitt band needs to grow a set and defy school officials and play the victory song right... the new generation of pitt fans doesnt know of the hatred for puke state...they need to play the song right so i can say PENN STATE SUCKS at the top of my lungs.. u need a buzz to put the presure back on State to man up...the university, coaches, players should use every opportunity to embarrass them for offering that garbage 2 for 1 deal..

pantherpride wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Thu, Oct 15 2009 11:23 AM

thisistheyear...just to clarify I never said Pitt "can't" get to elite status....its just the mentality from alot of us (and again, I've been guilty) is that we SHOULD be elite just because we are Pitt. Its like Marino just graduated two years ago and we tend to forget the next three decades.

And again, I respectfully disagree with a lot of you guys in regards to the alcohol/more adult environment. If Pitt is going to get to that next level....they have to sell out that stadium for every game to generate revenue. Just because you sell beer and alcohol doesn't mean that it'll turn into Animal House....it does mean you'll attract a different breed of fan. And GTurner, please I mean no offense....but you and I and about 2000 other people in those stands actually CARE about Pitt's Olympic sports; Pitt has marketing people who need to see that the vast majority of fans just don't care and try to attract more of a mainstream crowd - or the seats will be empty and the program will flounder to some degree. Just my opinion.

And you know what....I hesitate to say this....but another thing that has screwed Pitt....is that old fart in the middle of the state. Joe Paterno has done this whole region a disservice by not playing the PItt-PSU game - and he has proven but he is not an icon but simply a curmudgeonly old fart who really doesn't care about college football....just his program!

Face it, folks, just the mere thought of a Pitt-PSU game would generate alot of interest and have people scarfing up season tickets. Its not that we NEED PSU....its just that we all know WVU, although a very healthy rivalry....simply is not Penn State. The fact that the game is not played is an atrocity - and we all know is Paterno's fault.

I continue to yearn for that day that JoePa's Depends fails on the sidelines and the whole country gets to see what he is full of!

And the worst part is, in my humble opinion....most of the past ten years the Big East has been just as good, if not BETTER, than the Big Ten. I would absolutely love to see Pitt, WVU, or Cinn. spank OSU or PSU in a major bowl game.

thisistheyear wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Thu, Oct 15 2009 2:02 PM

I agree with you 100% pantherpride on not playing PSU has hurt PITT, a matter of fact it has, I think , hurt both schools.  And I'll even go one step further,  PSU going to the big ten has hurt college football in the northeastern part of the country.  Since the move to the big ten and not playing PITT, ND, Syracuse, BC etc on a regular basis I think all those programs have seen a downturn.  I don't know what the numbers say but it just seems like the buzz in the northeast about college football no longer exists.  remember when 'Cuse, PSU, ND and PITT were all top 20 progams and the northeast was like the southeast/Florida is now, something is off here in the north and i can't put my finger on it.  and even though ND is more midwest they fit in more with the northeast schools.

It is an OUTRAGE that PITT and PSU don't play.  That game should be made to happen every year even if it takes some co-axing from lawmakers(although getting lawmakers involved would be a whole other mess)  PSU only playing 4 road games all year is ridiculous!  Playing ne illinois st the 5th game of the season is just horrible!  you should be able to play one cupcake the first week of the season then have to play legit or up and coming programs(ie buffalo, miami of ohioetc),  after week 2.  

there is a way to get a pitt/psu game done, whether it is play every third year at a neutral site (say in phlia ??) or something this could get and should get done.  I'm not saying that a PITT-PSU will cure what ails Pitt football but it would be a start.

again pantherpride you are right, it is an OUTRAGE that you don't hear PENN STATE SUCKS in the pitt fight song anymore

MN_Pittman wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Thu, Oct 15 2009 2:19 PM

"I continue to yearn for that day that JoePa's Depends fails on the sidelines and the whole country gets to see what he is full of!"

Oh my, lmao, I think I just broke a rib, lol!!  

Hey guys, how about PSU playing Indiana in D.C.?  So glad they care so much about Pittsburgh!  Amazing that they couldn't work something out with Pitt, to bring some of that revenue to the Burgh.  And to think they once gave that guy the Dapper Dan man of the year award.  What a slap in the face that is now!

pantherpride wrote re: Pitt-Connecticut - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
on Thu, Oct 15 2009 2:32 PM

And the ironic thing is....if Pitt was on PSU's schedule PSU could cruise with their schedule-making and save alot of flack that they get!

If PSU would play Pitt every year, they could have two I-AA teams and pick from a MAC school or Temple/Syracuse for that fourth non-confereince game....and no one would criticize them.

But because of one over-rated meglomaniac  the whole state, including his university, needs to pay!

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on Thu, Oct 15 2009 6:29 PM

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