Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts

Symphony prep 101I hope you had a chance to check out my quirky story busting myths about classical concerts.

I know that some people, maybe most, just won't like sitting and listening to orchestral music or a string quartet or and opera, but I am certain that there are still a ton of people who would really enjoy the experience, even be touched by it, but who don't go to concerts because of the (bogus) myths about it. So that's why I wrote this, not because it is my beat...

Anyway, I have been getting some comments, and I will post them here, but I would prefer that, if you want to comment, you register by clicking here! The many comments from me below are from readers who have e-mailed me with comments, but I'd still prefer you registering and doing it yourself... 

 


Posted Sep 16 2008, 10:12 AM by Andrew Druckenbrod

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Andrew Druckenbrod wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Tue, Sep 16 2008 10:58 AM

From reader William Kelly:

dear mr d, enjoyed ur piece on classical music audience attendance. unfortunately u omitted a prerequisite. as my daugh's husb is a big classical buff, i decide to attend a performance of beethoven's 5th in nov '06. music was superb. sat in upper section towards rear. no problems with acoustics. heinz hall is fine. problem was about 5 rows in frt a family with teen gals. cell phone rang almost at the end or crescendo of the pgh symphony's performance. couldn't get to them at end due to crush of people, but that is as much a part of my remembrance as the beautiful music. consequently, i have not returned. also stopped going to stage events in pgh in town due to this also. seldom attend movies also. thank u for the column and letting me vent, reader, wm  kelly

Andrew Druckenbrod wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Tue, Sep 16 2008 11:12 AM

From reader Jay Conley in Oakland:

Your column on not fearing classical music was well put, especially the part about the audience 'dress code.' Yet, I think that thought could be taken a bit farther. The orchestra has appeared in white tie and tails during the evening performances since, well, forever. Is is now time to relax that rule so the men no longer look like dancers in an old Busby Berkeley MGM movie chorus line? I could never understand how they play so darned well in those constricting duds?

meestro wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Tue, Sep 16 2008 11:44 AM

This year will be my first year singing with The Mendelssohn Choir, and so naturally I'm fielding dozens of questions from all of my "inexperienced" friends and family.  I think from now on I'll just refer them to that article. It's truly amazing how many people I talk to say that they don't go to the symphony or opera simply because it's "above their head" or they "don't know any of the proper ettiquette." Just go and enjoy the concert!

Now, if I could only get my family to understand why I'm so excited about some of our upcomming performances. "Mahler 2? That sounds like a bad straight to DVD action movie." Oh well. At least I'm getting people to attend a concert, and with our wonderful PSO, that's as good a starting point as any.

Andrew Druckenbrod wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Tue, Sep 16 2008 2:38 PM

From reader Doug Bauman

Myth: You must understand music to enjoy a concert.

comment: Check out many movies, TV shows, commercials or Bugs Bunny/Tom and Jerry cartoons :)

What's to understand? You just hear it and enjoy the music.

Myth: Classical music is old and irrelevant.

comment: How can it be irrelevant when it is widely used in media.

It's relevant and people don't even know it.

Go to the concert, close your eyes, and imagine Jerry running from Tom.

Chris McGlumphy wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Wed, Sep 17 2008 12:52 AM

A good article to start the fall arts season Andy. I noticed a comment on dress of the musicians, and classical music blogger Greg Sandow has an interesting take on that here: www.artsjournal.com/.../while_i_was_away_i.html

re: Myth: You must understand music to enjoy a concert; the PSO has excellent pre-concert talks if you want to learn more about what you are going to hear. Other orgs do too, I'm sure.

I'm glad to see that newer concert halls are being built to be more inviting as well (like Disney Hall in LA and the Kimmel Center in Philadelphia). The actual physical spaces that classical music happens in often seem (to me) to not be very in-line with contemporary culture. Makes sense, of course, given that many are decades old, but I think that is one big reason why it's hard for me to get my 30-something pals to go to concerts with me. Now that you've busted the myths about what's going on in there, I'm sure I'll get some to come with.

Scott Fahlman wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Wed, Sep 17 2008 11:53 AM

Andrew,

I enjoyed your PG article Symphony Prep 101, and I think it may do some real good in the community of potential but reluctant concert-goers.

I think your article missed one "myth" -- or, I would say, a real concern -- that keeps many people from attending more concerts: Any piece by a composer I don't recognize is very likely to be boring or unlistenable.

As I'm sure you know, a lot of potential concert-goers enjoy hearing older classical works, but don't have any appreciation for the kind of "serious" orchestral music that has dominated the musical scene since the mid-20th century.  In fact, I'm one of those people.  There are occasional modern works that I very much enjoy, and others that I'm willing to sample in the hope that enjoyment will grow, but I find a lot of it distinctly unpleasant.  Whether that reflects a lack of taste or proper education on my part, or whether the entire music establishment somehow went insane is a discussion for another time.  But whatever the cause, an aversion to modern orchestral music keeps a lot of potential concert-goers away, even in cases where they might enjoy certain modern pieces if they gave them a chance.

And I think there's a good answer to this "myth":  On the PSO web site, I see that they have started including audio snippets of the various pieces that they will feature, so that potential concert-goers can make an informed choice between (a) "I might like this piece", (b) "I'll at least give it a chance", (c) "I probably won't like this, but can sit through ten minutes of it to get to the Tchaikovsky", or (d) "I don't want to be in the same room with this, and certainly don't want to pay money to be subjected to this evil noise."   Unfortunately, the web site does not seem to provide a snippet for every piece -- if it's a premiere, they could include a snippet of something similar by the same composer -- but it's a start.

Giving people an honest preview of what's in store for them may actually keep people away from certain programs, and in rare cases might cause someone to skip a concert that, in person, they might have enjoyed.  But most of these people, if they had attended the concert, would have regretted it, and would probably not have taken the gamble the next time.  So I think that making the web site more informative in this way is a very good thing.  People should know that this resource exists, and should take advantage of it.  This may create added pressure on the orchestra to program all-conservative evenings, but that's one way to build an audience and keep the orchestra afloat.

Andrew Druckenbrod wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:09 PM

This is really me this time.

Great points here about myths I missed or couldn't fit in.

There is no doubt the tuxes have to go. They are just silly and stuffy at this point.

But the deeper issues involving understanding music (esp. new music) are a different matter. I do not think preconcert lectures alone do the trick. Who wants to be lectured at on a Friday night?

I think more innovative ways are needed, and the Web can play a big role. The PSO is making strides there, but actually, what Chris was doing at PCMS is closer to what is needed -- namely a casual but robust interactive dialogue between audience and the groups. Gone are the days when one-sided lectures, even if  they are fun, smart and multimedia-driven, can be the only bit of audience education and engagement for a group.

I'd say that Beth Parker's work at the Pittsburgh Opera as the Opera Lady is a good step in this direction, but I still have yet to see an organization fully commit to supporting audience education and involvment of the whole music-making process. Most groups just want you to be passive -- pay, sit there and (hopefully) enjoy it.

JulesPgh wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Thu, Sep 18 2008 9:39 AM

And a great way to try out a symphony concert is by attending one out for free, particularly when there’s a beautiful, accessible program on tap: “reluctant” and eager goers alike can hear the full Symphony this Saturday, September 20, from 11AM-noon at Heinz Hall, as part of the annual RADical Days event.    Advance seats are available at the Heinz Hall Box Office, or by phoning 412-392-4900.  This concert is best for ages 8 and older.  Visit www.radworkshere for more RADical Days offerings

Andrew Druckenbrod wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Thu, Sep 18 2008 12:31 PM

A dissenting opinion from reader Frank Chiprich:

Mr. Tamburri, PSO president...  Why is it always so important that tickets sales become more important than than etiquette, common sense, and proper dress.  Your belief that those who enjoy pop music " miss out on hearing this spectacular music just because they think the ambience stifling" is absurd !!!!!!   I attended my first concert during the 70's when hard rock was king and although I still enjoy that music along with jazz,the blues, opera, and country I fell in love with with the classics.  It was an experience that deserved proper dress and total respect.  Our children were introduced to the same experience at an early age.  Although they sometimes regretted the Sunday afternoon concerts which required dressing up the life experience has helped them in their professional lives. Yes, rules of conduct  originally seemed secretive when my wife and I first attended.  Those rules howev er were important, such as when to clap and knowing when a movement has been completed.  Just sitting back and enjoying is fine. Unfortunetly  Mr.Drunkenbrod does not see those who text message, eat candy, and totally disrespect those seated around them while they are enjoying and sitting back.  Most rock and pop do not require understanding the concert..  The concerts are loud and many times unruly. There is NO eitiquette or proper dress required and YES someone could show up in PJs..  No one is asking that you put on airs.  WHY NOT teach those the importance of  proper dress, common sense, and understanding the etiquette needed to appreciated the classics..  Additionally DO NOT think "busting the rules" will increase ticket sales or attendance.  Standing strong and educating will bring longtime faithful fans..   Changing the mores like everything else in so ciety brings an outcome that usually self destructs.. I have talked to many 20 something adults who have attended functions requiring proper dress and rules.  They have stated to me time again the enjoyment of being dressed up for the occasion.. It felt special..  It's THE CLASSICS !!!!!  BE CLASSY !!!!  

Timothy R. Williams wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Thu, Sep 18 2008 2:25 PM

Great article, Andrew.

To be playful, think of this: a Pittsburgh Steelers game could be seen as more elitist than a Pittsburgh Symphony concert.

- A Steelers game is very expensive and tickets are hard to come by.

- In a way, it has its own dress code (jerseys, Terrible Towels, jeans, no ties, no colors of the opposing team, etc.) and code of conduct (such as different cheers and chants for different times: DE-FENSE! Charge!, etc.)

- It requires arcane knowledge of rules, strategy, and player positions to understand what's happening on the field.  

Don't worry; I think both the Steelers and the symphony are terribly exciting and fun.  It's just not logical to think of one as more accessible than the other.

On the other hand, I also agree with Mr. Chiprich that people like to feel classy by dressing up a little bit and behaving differently than they would at a bar or rock concert.  This has little to do with age; for every fidgety kid or bored teen there's probably also a distracted dowager with irritatingly jangly bracelets.  But at all ages, there are folks who can behave well and rise to the special occasion of going to the symphony.

(Finally, as a librarian, I must recommend any public library as a place to freely check out books, CDs, DVDs, etc. about either the Steelers or the symphony in preparation for one's event-going.)

meestro wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Fri, Sep 19 2008 2:29 AM

Just as a follow up to all of this talk about dressing up and what not, I will say that one of my favorite parts of colllege was getting dressed up and walking down to the symphony with a bunch of my fellow music majors. There sort of was something a little snobish about it that I liked, being dressed up and going to the symphony while most college students were calling a cab so they could go down to some club and get blitzed drunk.

Andrew Druckenbrod wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Mon, Sep 22 2008 12:54 PM

I get the dress up part, too, although I these days I just want to be comfortable and listen to the music. But, definitely, if I were running an orchestra or opera, I would be looking for ways to promote that aspect of the classical music experience -- there simply are not many opportunities to dress up at night (in a non clubbing way) at all in today's society -- even as I made it clear to people that dressing casually also is welcome.

Andrew Druckenbrod wrote re: Symphony prep 101: Nothing to fear at classical concerts
on Mon, Sep 29 2008 2:57 PM

More reader response, this time from Nick Triveri:

   I read your article in the Post-Gazette and totally agree with your perspective. Thank-you very much for writings, in fact I have had a couple people chastise me because of my enthusiastic response to the PSO performances.

                 I can tell you one time when Sarah Chang played her fiddle at Heinz Hall and I was chanting, “Sarah, Sarah, Sarah.” Some lady came over and said to me save it for the ballyard. I wasn’t yelling at the top of my lungs, but I did enjoy her performance and was trying to express my delight in an appropriate manner and was put down for it. But anyway enough of that about me; I did enjoy your comments about symphony etiquette.

                                    Sincerely,

                                      Nick Triveri