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No excuses! The better team won

By Bob Smizik | Sunday 4:35 p.m.

It’s a Pittsburgh tradition: When the Steelers lose, the finger pointing begins.

Not today.

I’m sure Steelers fans won’t see it this way but on this particular Sunday afternoon the Steelers  were outplayed. The Cincinnati Bengals were the better team -- not by much -- but by enough to produce an 18-12 win at Heinz Field.

The Steelers did not score a touchdown, something I would have figured virtually impossible by this offense against the Bengals. Although they advanced inside the Cincinnati 20 four times, they failed to score a touchdown and had to settle for field goals by Jeff Reed every time.

Coach Mike Tomlin pointed out the negative significance of those failures.

``When you kick field goals,''  he said, ``you expose yourself to losses.''

The Bengals also did not have an offensive touchdown but they returned a kickoff for a score, as Bernard Scott went 96 yards, and the Steelers special teams problems surfaced again.

``That's a good football team,'' said Tomlin of the Bengals.

The Steelers defense performed extremely well despite playing almost all of the game without strong safety Troy Polamalu, who reinjured his knee in the first quarter. The injury was to the same knee that kept Polamalu out for four games earlier this season. But reports indicate this sprain, to the same MCL, is not as serious. With Kansas City on the schedule Sunday, Polamalu could afford to miss a week to recuperate.

The offense could do little or nothing against the Bengals, accumulating only 226 yards. Despite the recent success of Rashard Mendenhall, the Steelers never emphasized the running game. Mendenhall had 13 carries for 36 yards. As a team, the Steelers gained 80 yards on the ground.

Tomlin and offensive coordinator put the game in the hands of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who is often his best in these situations. That's why even as the game grew late optimism did not fade. Who among us did not expect Roethlisberger to rally the Steelers from the slight deficits they faced in the fourth quarter? After all, that’s what Ben does.

Bernard Scott returns kickoff for Cincinnati touchdown (Matt Freed/Post-Gazette)But not on this day, and that’s not a knock on Roethlisberger. It’s praise for the Bengals.

When the Bengals went ahead, 15-12, with about seven minutes remaining, it looked like Roethlisberger time. But it was Bengals time as the Cincinnati defense held, forcing the Steelers to punt after three plays, all passes, and seven yards.

On the next possession, the Bengals move 52 yards on 11 plays, eating up the clock and picking up four first downs to move in for another field goal. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the Steelers James Harrison provided the Bengals with a major assist on this drive.

Still, we were left expecting some Roethlisberger magic. The deficit was only six points and 1:56 -- enough time -- remained. But once again the Bengals prevailed.

Roethlisberger threw too high to Hines Ward on first down from his own 33 as he faced heavy pressure on the play.

He went deep to Mike Wallace on second down but the pass was underthrown a bit and two Cincinnati defenders covered the play.

His third down pass clanked off the hands of Cincinnati cornerback Jonnathan Joseph and should have been intercepted.

On fourth down, defensive end Michael Johnson, who had applied the pressure on first down, was dragging Roethlisberger to the ground as the pass was thrown. It fell incomplete.

The Bengals have a one-game lead in the AFC North with a 7-2 record. But it’s actually a two-game lead since they own the tiebreaker.

There’s a long way to go in this season and the Steelers are by no means out of the title picture in the AFC North. But on this November afternoon the Cincinnati Bengals were the better team.

 


Posted Nov 15 2009, 04:25 PM by Bob Smizik

Comments

Freedoman wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:07 PM

The Steeler's defense played well but the offensive line took a couple of steps back into mediocrity. Both the offense and the (not so) special teams continued to looked horrendous.

The play calling on the no huddle offense was poor IMO. I thought you were supposed to throw to the sidelines in the 2 minute drill, but of course I'm not a coach.

psumule70 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:10 PM

Hey Bob, I agree with you.  But I am a little tired of seeing teams score on special teams and bad gameplanning by the Steelers.  The defense pretty much shut down the Bengals O(even without Troy).  But a pass happy offense and horrible special teams is a recipe for a Steelers defeat.  I know we expect too much(especially after Suoer Bowl victories), but it seems Tomlin and Arians have been getting outcoached in this year.

Bobcatbuzz wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:17 PM

Agree. I thought the Steelers Oline got their _sses handed to them most of the day. Ben had pressure all day long. Why no change of pace in this game and allow Ben to run his modified 2 min offense to try to create some offense. The personal foul penalty was huge at the end by Harrison. Totally changed field position and allowed Cincy to eat clock. Kickoff coverage again and again and again (Groundhog day like) continues to bite us in the ***. This certainly puts Cincy in the drivers seat in the division. Impressive performance by Cincy's defense with having numerous starters out as well. The earned the win.

theotherbigben wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:31 PM

Absolutely right Bob. We're loathe to admit it because it happens so rarely, but we were simply outplayed. Most losses for us really do seem to come with a couple of crucial plays or moments that were more our fault than our opponents' greatness. But this one... just got our butts whupped for most of the day. Great credit goes to our defense for keeping it as close as it was. The O. was ineffective. Bengals earned it.

kevin morris wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:32 PM

1. I believe the Bengals have figured out not to go for the pump fakes.

2. It just ain't as much fun to watch the Steelers play D when Troy isn't out there.

3. Carson Palmer is a very good quarterback.

4. If our DBs catch a couple of balls early this game would have been very different.

sonnydrysdale wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:38 PM

You are right Bob, even the D could have tackled better.

Ther was no intensity ion this game. Each team played not to lose. Palmer was very timid. Benson didn't show up. The teams looked like they were playing in a shoebox

Weird game, forget about it and move on

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Retire#21 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:48 PM

It's easy to say the play calling was lousy on a day when the offense does not score a TD and the Steelers lose, but it was horrific today.  25 passes out of the first 35 plays?  A red zone offense that looked like it could've run 100 plays inside the 20 and not scored on one of them?  What was that?

How does the special teams coach keep his job?  What further evidence do we need that he is inept?  In the history of the NFL, how many teams have given up Kickoff returns for TDs in 3 out of 4 games?

The "D" might've been good most of the day but they forced no turnovers and in the fourth quarter with the scored tied at 12, they allowed the Bungles to drive the field twice and kick FGs.  

What has the world come to when a team which dresses like THAT is sweeping the Steelers?  This might have been the first big game under Tomlin when the Steelers laid a total egg at home.

chilco99 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:01 PM

-Live by the pass............die by the pass!

-Unprofessional special teams play.

-Poor play calling in the red zone.

BFD wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:02 PM

The Cinci D-backs played an awesome game.  OUr WR's could not get any seperation at all.  Our WR's didn't help our cause either by Holmes missing a TD, Wallace dropping a pass over the middle and Ward getting hit in the head with the ball though.  The Steelers had their opportunities, but the Bengals were not the usual Bungels today........ our special teams coverage is pitiful and Reed looked pathetic on the TD return.  

PiratesFanSince1960 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:11 PM

Yes, today the better team won. 4 times in the red zone, at least one 1st and goal, 12 points and no TDs... Generally a well played game and our D did the best it could...

Finger pointing, being upset, crying about this and that typical of other football fans. SUCK IT UP... Its a game first of all. We got beat and have 6 games left. Nothing today told me we are not a great team and thank god we have room for improvement, otherwise they would be bored at practice and as a team.

We got beat today by a better team TODAY...So What? Was a pretty darn good football game. A football game that 3/4 of the NFL teams could not have stayed with either team today... Go Steelers.

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:12 PM

I guess Retire#21 didn't read the article....once could be a fluke.  5-0 in division!  Hope the terrible towel can dry your crying eyes.  Can the Gold & Black stop looking back at last year & refocus?  If they can there might be a rematch.

chilco99 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:19 PM

Look............student body right or student body left would have worked better for the Steeler's in the red zone today. If you know the defense has your number then you've got to switch things up.

With 2 minutes to go there is no reason for Ben to be throwing long bombs when he could've dinked & dunked down the field to guys like Mewelde Moore.

Don't worry folks........... i don't think either team has the juice to go the the SuperBowl.

JL58 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:24 PM

Steelers just looked unprepared for this must win game. Play on both sides of the ball looked sloppy.

Santo Gold wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:54 PM

When any team beats another team twice in a season, its hard to make the argument that it was luck or fluke.  This was a winnable game for Pittsburgh, but Cincy earned the win.  Are they better than the Steelers?  Right now, I'd have to say they are, but if we meet again in the playoffs, I still like the Steelers chances.

Not used to seeing Ben have a bad day hitting receivers.  And whats with all the batted down balls?

Bob, if you are looking for excuse making for a Steeler loss, look no further than your media brethen, namely Hillgrove and Ilkin on the radio.  Aside from the usual plethora of poor spots, incorrect names and wrong assumptions, Tunch actually suggested that the Steelers were still suffering from jet lag from the Monday Night game and having to travel through 2 time zones, which was affecting their rhythm on offense.  Now THAT'S making excuses.

 

Whistle Pig wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 7:30 PM

Carson Palmer ...good QB?  I'm not persuaded yet ...

While he MAY be, had he experienced similar pressure as Big Ben, I doubt any would be suggesting that.  And let's face it, Palmer did not beat the Steelers this day.

But once again, we were reminded of how vital Troyboy is to this team.  Unlike the other missing links, his absence is agonizing.

Whistle Pig wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 7:39 PM

Gotta wonder if jookin' Jeff Reed put one more nail in his Steeler coffin as he managed to miss the return guy ...again.

Indeed, didn't seem to even slow him.  In the end, all it cost was the game and maybe a whole lot more.

Reed is a panty-waste ...pun intended.

Andy Chomos wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 7:40 PM

Bob

Here are some comments from Row E Section 109:

1.  Stefan Logan should NOT be COVERING KICKOFFS, he is too small to take on blockers and make a tackle.  He was blocked so far on the Cincy TD return that he actually took out 2 other Steelers with him.  Everyone is complaining about Jeff Reed, but its time to put Harrison and Timmons BACK on the Kick off coverage units.

2.  Cincy totally outschemed our "empty set backfield" in passing situations.  Everytime PGH went 5 wides with no RB, Cincy blitzed and PGH had no answers since Cincy's corners were playing tight coverage. Great scheme by Cincy.  PGH should have stayed out of that formation but they went back to it several times with minimal if any success.

3.  The FEW times we did RUN the ball, we seemed mostly to run LEFT.  We did not run the TRAP with Keomato pulling and leading up behind Willie Colon.  That IS our signature running play and one that we've had great success with.  Why was is not called at all today????

4.  By the way HOME field advantage was poor today.  This was a game for 1st place and most of the crowd acted as if it was a preseason game.  The ONLY time it was loud was the brief period after RENEGADE was played but after that it was a pretty quite crowd.

Everyone scores a C minus today

Whistle Pig wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 7:54 PM

One more thought on Reed ...

From what we hear, he's a whole lot tougher with a few brewskis under his belt.  Maybe next week's gameplan should include a keg of PA Pilsner in the Pgh lockeroom.

Bet he'll tackle 'em all then ...if he can see which one has the ball.

hwilson wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:05 PM

Bob,

One word:

OUT COACHED!!!!!!!

 

One better word:  OUTPLAYED  -- Bob Smizik

Navy Author wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:27 PM

Bengal draft picks are finally starting to pay off. Tomlin rightly states "That's a good football team." Well that team just gave the league a nice blueprint on how to defend the Steelers. That defense applied pressure and they didn't bite for the pump fakes. Today reminded me of that Philadelphia game last year but it was magnified because it was the Bengals. They knew the stakes were big and still they couldn't get it done. Dulac needs to grade coaching with an F. I would raise the grade to a D- if Tomlin would fire the special teams coach tonight.

Aero wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:29 PM

The Bengals were just slightly better today.  The two defenses were pretty much dominant and each offense kicked 4 FG's.  The difference maker today was yet another special teams breakdown.  The Bengals defense played very well, at times dominated the Steelers offensive line who had their worst game in a good while.  In a playoff rematch I wouldn't bet against Pittsburgh though...

psumule70 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:31 PM

Does anyone know who runs the special teams?  Is it Tomlin?  And I still cant wrap my head around why they threw a couple of times on third and short...

bigdog1 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:41 PM

im a wvu fan

im a steelers fan

it astounds me that we have been playing football since august and neither team knows how to cover a kickoff

what in the name of god do these special teams do all week

Retire#21 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:43 PM

@ Bengalssweep....R U serious? Win a playoff game first, then bring your smack.

whytomlin wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 9:40 PM

Bob...I'd love to see you do a piece on the (not so) special teams.  Pretty much everyone in this post is commenting on the poor play of this unit.

I totally agree with Retire#21 when he writes...How does the special teams coach keep his job?  What further evidence do we need that he is inept?  In the history of the NFL, how many teams have given up Kickoff returns for TDs in 3 out of 4 games?  

and Navy Author...I would raise the grade to a D- if Tomlin would fire the special teams coach tonight.

but better yet BigDog1...what in the name of god do these special teams do all week?

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it 7 returned TD's within the past two years?

and I totally disagree with Andy Chomos when he writes...but its time to put Harrison and Timmons BACK on the kick off coverage units.

That's all we need for one of them to get hurt doing special teams play.  The two coaches we have for special teams should have this unit better prepared and not use valuable starters.

A change needs to be made.  Sure the coverage units were better last year 1 and 4 in the league I believe (with Timmons and other starters on it).  Sure we won the Super Bowl last year, but it sure wasn't because of the outstanding play of the special teams.  Special teams has been a problem since Tomlin and the new coaches came here 3 years ago.

Tomlin needs to make some changes with the coaches and some of the special team players soon or we will continue to give good teams opportunites at great field position or better yet...six points.

t2pyah wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 10:26 PM

The Bengals were the better team - today.  

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Regardless, I still have faith in the Steelers - players and coaches.  All except one  -  Jeff Reed.

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Reed is not a Steeler - and in fact, not sure why the guy is on a football field.  i've seen tougher 6-7 yr old youth football players.  

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t2pyah wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 10:31 PM

Andy C - Watch the film of Reed's less-than-half-hearted attempt at the tackle.  The criticism is focused on his lack of desire.  

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And this was not the first time he has done this.  Not an issue if the guy makes a (good) attempt - but he did not.

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Sad Sad Sad.

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PaulH wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 10:32 PM

Don't know why you're saying "Steeler fans won't agree with me"?

The Steelers lost to the better team today!  Period!

Ben was below par but he had plenty of company, especially on offense.  What offensive line?  What receivers getting open?  What running game?

And in this game, THEIR defense was better than ours!

This Steeler team has needed a wake up call all season long.  This game was it!  Now let's see if they forget about those Super Bowl rings and begin playing like they mean it?

southernBURGH wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 10:36 PM

your half right, the better coached team won today, ARIANS stubborness & lack of in game adjustments are killing this team. & 9 games into the season, special teams are still FUBAR'ED.... but tomlin says the samethings every tuesday, & nothing changes...

'Burgher in California wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 10:37 PM

The Bengals pass defense, which is pretty mediocre, played the game of their lives today.  

One disadvantage, which might not be that big of a deal, is the Bengals had an extra day to prepare while the Steelers where playing a Monday night game in Denver.  Maybe that's they seemed a bit off today.

Well, there goes any chance of a 1 or 2 seed now.  Best they can hope for is a 5 seed -- meaning a first round game on the road against either the 3 or 4 seed.

Retire#21 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 10:57 PM

In a game where the biggest spread was never more than 3 points for the first 58 minutes of the game, the Steelers called 44 pass plays and 18 runs.  Two of the runs were by Ben so really, 16 runs and 46 pass plays.  

Why was that ratio so out of whack in what was essentially a three point game for most of the day?  Even if you subtract Ben's scrambles, they were still averaging 4 yards per rush.

It reminded me of that disaster in the snow at the Jets a few years ago.

Californication wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 11:38 PM

BAD NEWS:  Steelers kick coverage up to it's old tricks, Troy's in kneed of repair, Ben's miscalibrated, and Arians off the wagon - again.

GOOD NEWS: They're 6-3 with 7 games left, three of them against the Chiefs/Raiders/Browns, figure 11 wins get them in the tournament....and the weather is sure to get worse.

AZSteelerFan88 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:25 AM

Special Teams Problems? Two words-Bobby April. The Steelers special teams have been adequate or moribund ever since they saw fit to let him leave. He's still one of the best in the business. LeBeau & April, a team we can trust. BTW-Arians must go. We can do better.

schadenfreude wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 3:53 AM

If you're looking for a reason the Steelers lost, look no further than Bob Smizik!

"Is a 7th Lombardi in the works?"

Not bloody likely, after you jinxed us!

"There’s a lot of football to be played, a lot of injuries that might happen, a lot of luck that could be bad."

Does the name Troy Polamalu mean anything to you?

It's YOUR fault, Bob.

Just kidding. It's only a game.  For most of us, the sun will rise tomorrow, which is far more important.

(So why am I crying?)

dfraj8 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 8:20 AM

The better team did win, sadly. Arians did not have a good game...he really needs to stick with the run a bit more, even if it doesn't have early success. The Bengals made us one-dimensional...just like we normally do to everyone else. Having said that, the Bengals were absolutely the better team.

Every offseason I kept waiting for Marvin Lewis to get fired, and was relieved when he never did. One more year of the Bungles with the ultimate Chief Bungle at the helm...By the way, has anyone ever heard one of Lewis' motivational pre-game speeches speeches?...I wouldn't follow that guy onto the teacup ride at Kennywood. However, I think the Cincy staff actually out-coached Tomlin and company, which is a rarity. Our schemes normally allow us to get guys open, and find running plays that take advantage of our O-line's talent. That did not happen yesterday even though Cincy was missing some starters. That fact tells me that Lewis' staff got the better of Tomlin's, which almost caused my grammar check to explode.

Retire#21 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 8:30 AM

One play overlooked is the obvious "cheap shot" blind side block that a Bengal laid on Willie Colon, temporarily injuring him.  As we all learned last year from Goodell on down to every Bengal on the roster, when you have somebody lined up for a blind side block in football, you are supposed to yell out to that person that you are about to hit him, and then just gently nudge him out of the play.  That way you don't catch him by surprise and block him too hard.   I can't wait for the firestorm of disgust that will follow a week long repeat of that hit on Colon and the impending rule change that the NFL will no doubt institute with the support of every Bengal.

Oh wait, Hines Ward wasn't involved in that block so it won't get any attention, it will just simply be a good football play...which is exactly what it was last year.

richinomaha wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 9:06 AM

Bob. I agree. Cincinnati deserved the win. The Bengals were the better team.  Maybe now that the lousy kickoff coverage cost them a game the coaching staff will take the necessary steps to make improvements. All these kickoff returns are inexcuseable.

Bottom line: it's just a football game. Not the end of the world.

Meathead wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 9:23 AM

A Whis coached team wouldn't lose to the Bengals twice in one season.

Andy Chomos wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 9:35 AM

whytomlin--

you need to check the stats from last year.  Steelers had one of the BEST kick off coverage units in the league last year.

James Harrison was a BIG part of that unit (Ask Baltimore's Jake Reed).  There is no great SCHEME to covering kickoffs, you need fast guys that can shed blocks and WANT to make tackles.  Stefan Logan for example does not fit that category.

As I stated before, he was blocked so badly that he actually took 2 other Steelers out with him (watch the video).  I don't buy the "fear of injury argument", James Harrison is more likely to get hurt by an O Lineman's cut block.

t2pyah

By no means am I suggesting Jeff Reed should be defended for his week attempts, I merely stating that if it comes down to the kicker making tackles on this unit, you have far greater problems with the other 10 guys.  Reed stated afterwards that he was attempting to not get beat to the sideline to force the runner back in to the pursuit.  Trust me, I think his attempts have been weak as well.

nycrob wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 9:59 AM

A few things.  First, I would like to run the ball more, like most of you, but the lion's share of blame for this loss should go to Ben.  He played the worst I've seen him play since the post-motorcycle accident season.  Even when he had time he made terrible throws.  I wonder if he's nursing an injury and not telling us.  

Second, I wouldn't play Troy again until week 15.  There is no way the Steelers lose to anyone on their schedule besides Baltimore, and looking at the Bengals' schedule, no way they lose more than 1 more, barring injury.  So let Troy get 100% healthy and come back with 2 weeks left to get in shape for the playoffs.

Finally, you can't blame Jeff Reed for not making a tackle.  His job is to kick field goals, which has as much to do with making tackles as my job.  Expecting him to bring down a world-class runner going at full speed in the open field is asking WAY too much.  It would be like me going on the field and trying to make a tackle, or trying to get a hit off of a professional pitcher, or return Andy Roddick's serve.  Maybe I'd get get lucky once in a while, but most of the time I'd look pretty foolish.  And Reed has been doing his job quite well since his hiccups early.

SteelerMark wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 10:18 AM

The only thing the Bengals have that is better than the Steelers is coaches (specifically the offensive coordinator and special teams coach, and probably head coach since Tomlin allows this to go on and on). And I've been saying this since Arians was hired. Just how far do we have to sink? I guess until neither the defense nor Ben can cover for BA any longer!

BlitzBurghDude wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 11:55 AM

One man's observations/Iqueries from an UGLY game, indeed:

- Whether or not the better team won, in a game where only one TD was scored.  It needs to be pointed out that, ironically one of the few Cincy kick returns that wasn't flagged, was not only the most critical, but also one where the most aggregeous foul occured right in front of the returner as he fielded the kick, Stefon Logan was blatantly held, not whinin about the calls, but this one was obvious on a 60" HD screen...any ??? look at it again.

- Trai Essex is NOT an NFL starting quality O-Lineman, no news there!

- Someone needs to tell BA that he has a bona-fide feature back...all those red zone formations with empty backfield sets???

- Willie Colon CANNOT pass block!

- Someone needs to tell MT that the red piece of laundry tucked into his sock, is not a fashion accessory, it can & should be used to dispute apparent errors by the men in stripes...not using the cop-out of putting the game on the officials, but several key plays could have been

challenged.

- Chris Kemoeatu CANNOT pass block!

- Most disconcerting of all was the look in the eyes of the offense (Ben-Hines) after the FG made it 18-12, signifying that the O would need to reach paydirt in order to win...not only the look in the eyes, but also their body language & most importantly their body of work in the games intial 58 mins.  As rare as it is, for that to be the case with this team, NOTHING displayed by them in those three areas, which are crucial to a unit's collective confidence, gave me any hope that this game could still be won...that has the potential for disaster.

- Justin Hartwig CANNOT pass block!

- While Heinz Field has the rep as arguably the toughest for kicking field goals,  after the turn of events Sat. evening & Sun . afternoon, is it possible that Heinz Field is the venue where more returns have been "taken to the house" than any other?  I'd be willing to wager that more kick/punt returns have been run back here, since the opener in 2001, than anywhere else & wouldn't doubt that if you figure in INT/FUM run backs, it would lead in overall returns for TD as well...gonna do some research & ask anyone that can find out, kindly lmk, thx in advance!

- How is it possible for Max Starks to dominate Odom-Allen-Dumervil, yet have his lunch handed to him by below average/reserve pass rushers in other games?

- nycrob...all Ben, yet no mention of the O-line...seriously???

- JL...it IS not only the weakest link, but a WEAK link!!!

BFD wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:05 PM

nyrob - All on Ben really?  He hit Ward  in the head with the ball which resulted in the int.  He hit Holmes in the hands which should have been a TD.  It surely wasn't his best day, but he was not to soley blame of the loss.  The Special teams gave up the only TD of the game.....with a pitful weak non - attempted tackle by tough guy Reed.  When was the last time he kicked the ball into the endzone on a kickoff?  

daquido_bazzini wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:06 PM

Obviously the Bengals were the better team in the two meetings with the Steelers this year. But I'm not even close to anointing them as any real contender.

They're currently on a roll, but that will stop when they play deeper competition. I also heavily predict they'll sink back down next year.

Amongst many things....The Steelers should've went to the no-huddle "at the latest" early 4th quarter.

Nothing else was really working offensively, so there was little to lose.

The Cincy kickoff return (the third in four games) is utterly ridiculous.

They obviously need to change the personnel....and though Tomlin won't like it....This particular assistant coach position has to be looked at when the season ends.

This problem has reared it's ugly head for two of the past three years.

By the way....When is #77 on the Bengal OL going to get called for holding? If a guy can get away with a game like that, they might as well scrap the whole rule.

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:10 PM

The ball was deflected by a Bengal defender.  Not off Ward's head.  Your moderator will probably pull the plug on this post also ... because it is true.

(If you have something to contribute, as you did here, you're welcome.  --- Bob Smizik)

daquido_bazzini wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:16 PM

To all you gleeful Bengal fans....I wouldn't use the word "sweep" too often.

You may eat your words in January.

nycrob wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:20 PM

I said lion's share, not all.  Ben was WAY off his game.  The line wasn't great, but he had time on more than one occasion and made poor throws.  By my recollection, 2 of the sacks were coverage sacks, where Ben held the ball longer than most QB's.  I'm not criticizing this, it earns a lot of big plays, but he gets sacked a lot as a result and it isn't always the line's fault.  Sometimes the line was badly fooled, but what else is new? I thought they did as well as could be expected against one of the best D's this year.   I'm talking about who played off their game.  Yes, Santonio should catch that ball, but it wasn't as good a pass as we usually see from Ben.  Yes, Tomlin could have saved 3 points by challenging the catch in the first Q (there really isn't an excuse for that). Yes, the D backs should catch the ball at least once in a while, and the kickoff units are terrible, but we can complain about that almost every week.  The Steelers usually overcome those things, and one of the reasons is because Ben is normally money on passes of less than 20 yards.  Something was clearly off.

sixburgh82 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:21 PM

I'm not quite ready to give Reed as much blame as others on here are (in addition to the o-line, our offense in general, and the play calling on both offense and special teams, but while also keeping in mind that the better team did win yesterday). Yes, Reed made no attempt at stopping Scott during the return (much like I believe the game against the Vikings), but he DID make all of his field goals, which helped keep Pittsburgh in the game.

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:27 PM

Steelers need to get past Baltimore & Green Bay.  Funny the Bengals gave game to Denver & lost to Houston.  (In conference)  Ironic that it hurts Stieelers chances.  Last week talk of dynasty... this week talk of wild card.

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 12:59 PM

Bob ... thanks for the freedom of speech.  Polamalu's injury?  Complete rehab from a grade III MCL tear can take 3-4 months.

BlitzBurghDude wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 1:06 PM

BUNGALSweep2010 wrote-

"Funny the Bengals gave game to Denver"

Just like the Steelers GAVE the game in Cincy to you, 50 min. of domination & a sure TD drop to a WR wide open in the end zone & perfectly thrown, nothing the Bungals did prevented that TD, it was self inflicted, fluky, just like the Den tip, be fair son!

"Steelers need to get past Baltimore & Green Bay"

& the Bungals need to win @ Min, @ SD & @ NY...alot of football yet to play with nothing clinched as yet!

"this week talk of wild card."

what?  you mean like 2005???

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 1:45 PM

Safety Ryan Clark "I mean, they're going to be division champs," Clark began. "[We] already know we have to beat them with the overall record. That's tough. We have to win out. Don't get me wrong, I'd give one of my arms to play them again, whether it's there or North Allegheny."

A lot of football (2 words) left. True.

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 1:45 PM

Safety Ryan Clark "I mean, they're going to be division champs," Clark began. "[We] already know we have to beat them with the overall record. That's tough. We have to win out. Don't get me wrong, I'd give one of my arms to play them again, whether it's there or North Allegheny."

A lot of football (2 words) left. True.

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BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 1:57 PM

Chick... It's o.k. to wave terrible towel in PBS but not o.k. to blog in Pittsburgh negative Steeler ideas.

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 2:18 PM

Chick... What about your prediction of a loss in Pittsburgh?  You will need another Bengal L for 10-6.

Democrat Dan wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 2:56 PM

The Steelers need to stick with the run even when its not very effective.   The Steelers' defense played well, but Cincinnati's commitment to their running game, even after Benson went down, kept the Steelers honest, abated our pass rush and wore us down.  Also, my recollection is that Cincy used 2 consecutive first round picks to get their corners a few years back.  That investment seems to be paying off.  Their great coverage has to get a lot of credit for their QB pressure.  Also, Rothlisberger, like any quarterback, is going to throw high after he's been repeatedly bounced around like a pinball.  Cincinnati made us one dimensional just like Coach Lebeau frequently makes our opponents one dimensional.

BlitzBurghDude wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 3:04 PM

BUNGALSweep wrote -

"It's o.k. to wave terrible towel in PBS"

...but only because Steeler Nation takes over your stadium annually, since so many lame bungal backers sell their tix to true NFL fans, NEVER happened at 3RS & will NEVER happen at Heinz Field!

Anthony Markovich wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 4:24 PM

Jeff Reed Can Tackle – Inanimate Objects

Before anyone writes off the Steelers as second fiddle in the AFC North, I think we should all realize just how close the second game between these two teams could have been.  They were perhaps one tackle away from a completely different result.  The irony is, this tackle would have been a great opportunity for a certain kicker with a lot of anger to, well…, vent that anger.

Jeff Reed’s destruction of a paper towel dispenser at a Sheetz in New Alexandria, PA in February has been well chronicled, as was his most recent defense of Matt Spaeth’s public urination.  Jeff Reed loves to party, no doubt.  But we are also getting the feeling that there is a little hostility building up inside the spiky-haired lover of young ladies.  

Kickers rarely have the opportunity to vent that frustration on the field.  They are nothing like, for example, Greg Lloyd, whose quarterback sacks on Sundays probably prevented random acts of violence against 7-Eleven employees, or even better, his significant others.  Kickers unfortunately must resort to kicking a ball, and I cannot imagine that is nearly as satisfying as destroying a paper-towel dispenser.

But as we know, Jeff Reed is not most kickers.  Jeff Reed is actually quite a stout fellow as NFL kickers go.  No, he’s not Sebastian Janikowski sized, and that’s a good thing.  But looking at the man, well we’re not exactly looking at Gary Anderson here.  

In addition to not looking or acting like most kickers, Jeff Reed has had two unique opportunities this year to not only vent his frustrations on actual opponents in a very legal way, but also to prevent touchdowns in the process.  Mr. Reed is 0 for 2 on both attempts, once against the Vikings that did not haunt the Steelers, and again against the Bungles, which cost them dearly.  The margin of victory was six points, precisely the number that could have been averted if Reed could have bothered to even touch the return man who ran back his kick.  Instead, he daintily galloped past Bernard Scott with his arms out like a kindergartner pretending he was an airplane.

In a contract year, with his reputation in shambles, the physically fit kicker is so fearful of injury that he cannot be bothered to make physical contact with the return man?  Yes, Jeff Reed has managed to figure out how to kick in Heinz Field and making field goals is his most important job.  At the same time, the Steelers coaching staff has figured out how to use kickers at Heinz Field properly, meaning that other serviceable kickers will look just as good.

Jeff Reed, by reputation, effort, and contract status is on his way out of Pittsburgh.  The Steelers do hand out big paydays when it makes sense.  In this case, they will not.  Good riddance.

daquido_bazzini wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 4:37 PM

Looks like Cincy just signed Larry Johnson.

Keep adding those bums & jailbirds at any cost!

Freedoman wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 6:08 PM

I found myself wondering last night if the Steelers could teach Sepulveda how to kick off. He's big and has power and one thing for sure, he's not afraid to tackle a runner.

www.youtube.com/watch

And after that maybe they could teach the offensive line how to block.

Retire#21 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 6:59 PM

If the ultimate measure of who the better team was is the scoreboard, then OK, sure, the Bengals were the team with the most points at the end of the game, so fine.  But sometimes the better team does not win. Sometimes the better team is obvious like when the 49ers beat the Broncos in the Super Bowl, 55-10.  But sometimes, one team outplays the other and loses because of a couple plays out of 100, like in Super Bowl XXX.   I don't concede that the Bengals were the better team yesterday.  The Steelers had more first downs, more total yards, more rushing yards, averaged twice as much per rush and had more time of possession.  A couple plays turned that game and a huge non-call.  Games in the NFL are decided by who makes a play at the right time and when and if a ref decides to throw a flag.  The Steelers kicked off 5 times, on 3 of those the Bengals were called for a block in the back.  On the return for the TD, Logan was blocked in the back and so was Fox.   No call.  Does that make the Bengals the better team?  No, it means that the ref decided to not throw his flag.  Clark dropped a gift wrapped INT at mid field in a 12-12 game.  If he makes that play there is no Bengal FG on that drive.  Harrison gets pushed in the back after the play is over on the next series and the ref does not throw the flag.  Harrison responds with a stupid punch to the head, and the ref now decides to throw the flag.   Bengals drive is extended, another FG is kicked.  Does the ref's subjective decision on when to throw his flag and on whom make the Bengals the better team?  Hardly.  Heath Miller is flagged for holding on a play in which the Steelers get a first down.  The holding call on Miller is a joke compared to what happened to James Harrison on almost every single pass play.  Ref flags Miller, never flags the holds on Harrison.  Does that make the Bengals the better team.  Hardly.

In a game like that one Saturday, where you could say that there were either two excellent defenses on the field, or two mediocre offenses, it is not easy to identify the better team.  Even the Bengal special teams were bad.  The botched an extra point, missed a FG and got called for a block in the back 3 times.  Had the refs called 1 of the 2 which took place on the return, the Bengals start that drive inside the 10. Whichever team wound up with the most points was the winner, and maybe the better team, and maybe not.

It reminds me of my neighbor the Caps fan who went crazy after the Capitals beat the Pens in February last season.  I told him to relax, all the Caps did was win 1 game in February.  Let's wait until the playoffs and see what happens.

(Many Steelers players were more gracious than you in post-game interviews and gave the Bengals the credit they deserved. The Bengals have beaten the Steelers twice. They were the better team yesterday.  -- Bob Smizik)

Retire#21 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 7:38 PM

True Bob, but they have to say what they have to say.  I don't have to worry about Tomlin like they do.

BengalsSweep2010 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 7:49 PM

Does the NFL still use the score of the game to decide the winner?

San Antonio Steeler Fan wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 7:58 PM

Let me just say the Steelers lost, the Bengals won.  It is a long season, and you can bet there is a game for every team like the Steelers played yesterday.

My beef is that they seemed like they wanted to be doing anything but playing a division opponent that was tied with them for 1st place, this is not normal for a Steeler team.  Plus I just want to know if anyone saw Starks get any type of block the whole game, what a sorry display he and his fellow O-line put on yesterday.

Competive wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 8:29 PM

What happened? Special tams were much better last year - And yes the Bengals were better last Sunday to an unispired or unispiring Steeler team, that seems to need to get in trouble to perform better.

Retire#21 wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Mon, Nov 16 2009 10:26 PM

Bengalsweep, the issue or question if you will is not who won the game.  That is obvious.  The Bengals won twice this year against the Steelers.  The issue is are the Bengals the better team, and more specifically, were they the better team yesterday?  I don't think that question has been clearly answered. In 2006 the Ravens beat the pants off the Steelers twice both on the scoreboard and on the field.  They were clearly the better team.  I don't see the Bengals as being the better team at this point.  The Bengals lost on the last play of the game to the Broncos on a fluke.  Did you regard the Broncos as the better team that day just because they won?   In 2002 the Texans beat the Steelers 24-6 despite the Steelers outgaining them 442-46 or something like that.  Were the Texans the better team that day?   Are the Bengals better than the Steelers right now?   I'm not seeing it.  They may be the better team by the end of the year,  but right now I think that question is still to be answered.  You still have seven weeks to turn back into your old selves.   The Bengals this year are the Dolphins from last year.  You got a lazy schedule and nobody takes you seriously so you are sneaking up on everybody.  The Steelers being as flat as they were yesterday for that game proves that.  Pay attention to the Dolphins track because that's you.

BlitzBurghDude wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Tue, Nov 17 2009 10:42 AM

"Looks like Cincy just signed Larry Johnson."

& they wonder why they're called Bungals...7-2/5-0 div. & still messin' with team chemistry???

"I found myself wondering last night if the Steelers could teach Sepulveda how to kick off...And after that maybe they could teach the offensive line how to block."

& if there's still time left, they could even do the unthinkable & maybe teach a DB or 3 that a football can indeed be caught, just as it can be batted and/or dropped!!!

t2pyah wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Tue, Nov 17 2009 7:50 PM

The Bengals are currently the better team.  They beat the Ravens twice - and the Steelers twice.

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Hopefully the Steelers will get in the playoffs and win when it counts - in the playoffs.

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t2pyah wrote re: No excuses! The better team won
on Tue, Nov 17 2009 7:58 PM

Evidently - Ed (Bouchette) and a few others are tired of hearing (criticism) about Jeff Reed.  

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Reed deserves all he gets.  Sure - obvously you don't want to see your kicker making tackles.  But that is exactly what he should try to do when the runner eludes the other 10 players on the field.  That is why Reed suits up with full pads and a helmet.  He is a football player -  kicker is his position - but he is a football player.  Anything else is unacceptable.

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I wonder how some of the other Steelers players felt when they watched his less-than-half hearted attempts to make a tackle - when they have been putting out 110% etc.

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Reed apparently is just too concerned about getting hurt (and it happens often to kickers making tackles) - and possibly hurting his chances at securing a good contract next season.  Basically the guy has put himself above the good of the team  - not exactly a team player - and I doubt that sits well with a few  (if not many) Steelers players.  

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