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Letters: He doesn't like JoePa

 Saturday, 1 a.m.

 

Q: You are sure scary. Last week you got it right about Joe Paterno when you said he needed to get over his lost dream of his own conference and resume the rivalry with Pitt. As a devout Pitt fan all my life, and alumnus, too, I despise Joe for his egocentric, despotic power to end a grand annual event. Now you are praising his achievements like he’s the God of all that’s good in college athletics. His dream was a good one and his devotion to Penn State admirable, but all this is cast aside to me by his child-like peevish refusal to play a long arch-rival and help his state achieve notoriety for this annual event.

  

Bob Smizik: I see no contradiction in my stances. The world is made up of shades of gray, not black and white, as most Pitt and Penn State fans view the rivalry. It’s entirely possible to admire and respect Paterno and still believe he is wrong on a certain issue. 

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Q: Could an argument be made that Notre Dame in the Big East makes sense? In that case, Notre Dame becomes likely the top dog in a BCS conference as opposed to possibly dwindling prestige as an independent or becoming one of many in the Big Ten. The Big East gets the biggest name in college football, albeit past its prime, and solidifies BCS status. The move doesn't affect basketball for either party, etc.

Jeff Flynn

 

Bob Smizik: The case for Notre Dame in the Big East certainly can be made. Just don’t try to make it to Notre Dame administrators. The Irish have the best of both worlds. In football, they’re an independent and thus do not have to share their vast football revenues with conference members. In basketball, where there clout is considerably less, the have membership in the best conference in the country. 

Notre Dame’s reputation isn’t dwindling as much as you might believe. When that does happen, then the Irish might consider joining a conference. I would be shocked if that conference was not the Big Ten.

The Big East’s BCS status is fine and in no need of an outside push.

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Q: I was there Bob. It was wave after wave of black and gold. I was out there for work in the Pueblo (Colo.) area, and our customer drove us up to Denver for the game. Never having been to a game in Denver before, I had no idea what to expect. I'm thinking: Do I let the colors show or what?

I knew as soon as we were an hour outside of Denver, and I saw car after car with Steeler logos and people wearing black and gold waving Terrible Towels out their windows this was going to be something.

We pulled up and there was black and hold everywhere There were more Steeler tailgaters than Denver tailgaters. 

They weren't all from Pittsburgh, just Pittsburgh fans. There were Steeler fans from Colorado, Montana, Texas, the Dakotas, everywhere....

When the Broncos came out on to the field, there was a thunderous boo across the stadium. When the Steelers came out, the crowd went crazy. Most of the night was spent by Denver fans trying to do their best to drown out the Steeler fans cheers. It didn't work!

I knew before the game ever started, this was going to be a special night.

Bob Eritz

 

Bob Smizik: Sounds like a great time, Bob. Thanks for sharing.

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Q: I enjoy the blog and had a question about the state of college football. Let me first say that I definitely want to see a playoff in college football. It would be great for the sport and would bring in much more revenue than the current bowl structure, which I think would satisfy everybody. That being said, I think for teams such as Penn State and Pitt, the current BCS structure gives them a much better chance of winning a national championship then a 16-team playoff.

Currently, teams can control there non-conference schedule pretty well and in the Big Ten and Big East there will likely be only one or two major obstacles throughout the season to go undefeated. I think that anything can happen in a one-game situation, but having to beat four teams such as Florida, Alabama, Texas, and USC in a playoff would be much more difficult considering the talent of those teams.

I think that this year may not be the best example, but I think going undefeated would likely be enough to get into the BCS National Championship game. PSU would have made it last year had they not lost to Iowa, while two one-loss teams made it to the title game. A two-loss LSU won the title a few years back as well, so I feel that an undefeated BCS team will generally not have to worry about making it to the title game. For the reasons mentioned above, I feel that their path to playing and winning the championship is a lot easier.

Yes, a playoff would allow a lot more teams to get into the national championship picture, but it would be a lot tougher to actually win for teams such as PSU or Pitt.

Sam Schilling

 

Bob Smizik: As you state the case, it could be easier for a non-deserving team (Pitt, Penn State, Texas Christian, Boise State) to win the national title under the current format. That’s why a playoff is essential. I guess there are partisans who would prefer a method that would allow their team to win even if it were not the best. For myself, I prefer to see the best team win.

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Q: I am a transplanted Pittsburgher (West Mifflin) living in Indianapolis. I am still amazed at how everyone is surprised by the number of Steeler fans at visiting stadiums. It is pretty simple. The population drain suffered by Western Pennsylvania during the 1970's, ‘80s and ‘90s displaced thousands of Steeler fans throughout the country. As you know, most Steeler fans are great community people. The season-ticket holders in many of these stadiums are friends or colleagues with many of these Steeler fans. At the beginning of every season, Steeler fans check the schedule and call in their favors. You can bet I will be sitting on the 50-yard line for every game the Steelers play in Indianapolis. Not because I will pay top dollar for the tickets and not because the Colts fans aren't loyal. Just the opposite. The fans in the other cities are loyal to their friends (who happen to be Steeler fans). This trend is likely to continue for another generation with the continued success of the franchise. I have two boys (ages 4 and 5) who are not alone wearing Steelers shirts to school on a Friday.

Kevin Johns

 

Bob Smizik: You’ve got some great friends, Kevin. The people who I know who own Steelers season tickets might give them up for exhibition games, maybe even the Cleveland game, but not for a big game. I’m not sure how the Steelers fans get all those tickets, but I don’t think it’s strictly through the goodness of the opposing fans.

 

 


Posted Nov 14 2009, 01:30 AM by Bob Smizik
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kevin morris wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 7:17 AM

Regarding Sam's point that, "...for teams such as Penn State and Pitt, the current BCS structure gives them a much better chance of winning a national championship then a 16-team playoff."

He is surely right. The current system also gives USC, Texas, and every other team a better chance. Winning four playoff games in a row would be difficult even if you had the best team in the nation; it ostensibly would four lesser teams the chance to catch you on a down night or themselves catch lightning in a bottle.

Of all the teams in the nation I think the one that would most benefit from this type of arrangement is USC. They almost never lose a big game, but trip up against a lesser team almost every year (gotta be a coaching flaw).

collegesportsfan wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 8:27 AM

I agree that the present BCS setup gives a Pitt or pSU the best chance of a BCS bowl.  That goes for Utah too ... I wanted to advise the Utes and Orrin Hatch .. look out, you juts may get what you asked for?  Under an 8 team playoff system, the Utes would have probably had to go thru Bama and then Flroida before playing in the title game last year.  I know they beat Bama but not sure they would have if Bama had more incentive ... maybe I'm not being fair to Utah but it is a valid thought.

Just wish everyone would focus more on the actual play on the field as opposed to who is No. 1.  Fact is if PSU, Pitt or WVU are not playing for the title, I really don't care who wins it ... but I do want to see good competitive action.  College FB is fun to watch .. enjoy it!

Holy Diver wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 9:24 AM

While the drain of Pitsburghers in the 70's and 80's has led to displaced Steeler fans, the real reason for so many Steeler fans across the country is that the Steelers were the team of the decade (70's) during the formative years of those with disposable income to buy NFL tickets.  

kevin morris wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 11:10 AM

Holy, I live in Des Moines, and I often go to the Steeler bar here for games. I have yet to meet another person there who is from the 'Burg, supporting your point. On the other hand there is a huge Steeler bar in Baltimore, and most of the folks I met there were transplants.

College, I respectfully disagree with your assessment that the current system is better for Utah and their like. Admittedly a playoff would only give them a small chance, but a small chance s better than no chance.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 12:50 PM

Kevin,  point taken but know that BYU won the title in 84 when all other teams dropped off, but IMO, would not have had a prayer in a playoff.  

College fb has flourished for nearly a century without a definitive champion and for a plethora of reasons, the creation of a valid playoff system is infeasible.

JL wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 12:56 PM

While I don't doubt Kevin Johns's experience, I've gotta believe it's pretty unusual circumstances he finds himself in. I live in Las Vegas, and can confindently say that the Steeler Nation numbers vie with Raider fans (mostly Latino transplants from nearby L.A.), for most numerous. I am one of the few here who actually have lived in Western Pa. As Holy Diver and Kevin Morris state, the Super Steelers of the '70's is the reason for all this. However, only ten percent of the residents of Vegas were born here. So naturally I do occasionally run into Burgh natives here, as well. Pirate fans I've run into? Can count 'em on on hand, and still have enough fingers left over to pick up a bowling ball. :-(

mundyscorner99 wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sat, Nov 14 2009 9:52 PM

Bob,

I don't want to be in a position of defending the BCS, but the next time that I hear that a team that wins the championship based on the way the current system is set up is "non-deserving" would be the first time.  If a team like PSU or Pitt goes undefeated, and based on the current system criteria, is selected to play for the championship and wins the game, they would be considered just as worthy as all of the other teams that have won it in past years.  There is always going to be debate, but the team would definitely be deserving, and they would have absolutely nothing to apologize about.  And I'm sure fans of those teams would not care in the slightest about whether the system is flawed if that happened.

 

(A poor choice of words on my part. -- Bob Smizik)

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kevin morris wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 7:27 AM

Mundyscorner99, I don't think many complain about the worthiness of the winners, but w bemoan the worthiness of those not given an opportunity to try. Very rarely do the top two teams clearly separate themselves from the pack cleanly. This year if TCU, Cincy, and Boise St. all win out it will be ridiculous that all three of them are left out.

The caste system currently in place in major college football runs counter to the American spirit of fair play and equality of opportunity.  

Buc Fever wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 1:08 PM

Frankly, I can't stand the current BCS setup, but I'm not sure I'd like a 16 team playoff either...which just seems like too much. An 8 team playoff seems just right for college football. I'm not sure that the team ranked 16 is really worth of inclusion in a playoff system, because they are likely a 3-4 loss team. A top 8 playoff would include all the true contenders, plus allow a few spots for the TCU, Boise State's of the world. Also, a month long playoff seems a bit much, an 8 team playoff would eliminate one week making it more manageable.

Here's the thing thing about it currently being "easier" for Pitt to win under the current system. If Pitt hadn't blown it in the 4th quarter to NC State, they'd be 10-0 and likely ranked right behind Cincy...who gets the extra spot because they were ranked higher than Pitt earlier in the season. Now...suppose we were to beat WVU and Cincy to finish the season at a perfect 12-0. A perfect season wouldn't qualify Pitt for the BCS Championship game unless two of Florida, Alabama, and Texas lost.

So...essentially, under the current system, Pitt can play a perfect season...do everything it possibly can...and still not have the opportunity to play for the championship just because they aren't in the Big 10/SEC/Big 12.

Bring on the 8 team playoff and let's see how things shake out...

kevin morris wrote re: Letters: He doesn't like JoePa
on Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:07 PM

Buc Feaver, I agree an 8 team playoff should be sufficient. As to the "best chance" to win a championship, I think that is a different thing than a fair opportunity. If a team has the opportunity to win it and doesn't because they lose in a playoff they have no right to complain. But the current system, obviously, often denies teams any opportunity, and will almost certainly deny an undefeated team a shot this year.  

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