Letters: Shame of college athletics

Saturday, 1:00 a.m.

 

Q: I just finished reading an article in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune concerning the student-athlete cheating scandal at Florida State University. The Appeals Court in Florida ruled the investigation can go public. To many, the scandal would be a shock, but to those of us who know college sports, especially football, know this to be true at many universities. The findings in the investigation are sad, more than interesting. Young people being "prostituted" for the good of a university sports program. Plus, a slap in the face to every person who worked hard to earn their college degree. One would hope this was an isolated incident, but know that it encompasses just about every major and mid-level college sports program. Young men and woman that have absolutely no business being in an institution of higher learning are both victim and perpetrator.. Much can be learned from this investigation, but most likely it will be swept under the carpet.

I often wonder how many athletes playing pro sports have actually graduated from their respective universities. Probably less than 15 percent. For every one of us who put so much effort, time, and money into earning our diploma, there are thousands of "Dexter Manley's" coursing the locker rooms of university sports plants. Most of my adult life was that of an academic guidance counselor, so I know all too well the struggles of the "educationally challenged" student.  Shame on universities for not having a backbone to stand up against this outrageous conduct. I take comfort in knowing that most students attending colleges and universities are there for the right reason.

David Fazzone

 

Bob Smizik: A couple of decades ago the college gave up any pretext of having admission standards for athletes in general and football and basketball players in particular. It was a sad day as far as I’m concerned but I don’t think most people care. They look upon college athletics as a form of entertainment and a chance for their school to gain renown. Few are concerned about the cost of that renown.

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Q: Don't forget the Penguins were out of the playoff picture last year until Sergei Gonchar returned and sparked the team. Did his return have a bigger impact than coach Michel Therrien’s departure? We'll never know, but the Pens are not a better team with Gonchar out of the lineup. This injury will help keep Gonchar fresher for the playoff push, but they have to make the playoffs for it to matter.Sergei Gonchar

Carl Palitti

 

Bob Smizik: First of all, I never suggested the Penguins are a better team with Gonchar out of the lineup. I said they could benefit in the long run by his absence because he'll be fresher when the games really count.

Also, the Penguins were not out of the playoff picture when Gonchar returned. Although they were in 10th place, they were very much in the picture. No question, the return of Gonchar helped the team advance to the playoffs. But who’s to say the fact he had fresh legs was not instrumental in that help.

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Q: C'mon Bob, the Patriots won three Super Bowls in four years without a running game. The Steelers won the Super Bowl without a running game last year. The Steelers are spreading the ball around just like the Pats. We'll see.

Peter David

 

Bob Smizik: The Patriots were seventh in the NFL in rushing in 2004 and 13th in 2001. I would not call that being ``without a running game.'' That said, of course, a superior passing offense can win the Super Bowl. Ben Roethlisberger is good enough to get the Steelers to the Super Bowl with the power of his arm. But it’s better to be balanced.

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Q: Living here in Raleigh N.C. and being a huge Steeler fan, I can't seem to find any true info on Limas Sweed and his relation with the Steelers. Is he that bad to be deactivated all the time and given little chance? Is the word in Pittsburgh he will be gone? Or is it because Mike Wallace has played much better. Second-round pick and not dressing is not a good sign.

Fred Taylor

 

Bob Smizik: I think the Sweed situation is pretty much what you see. On a team with five wide receivers, he is fourth or fifth. As such, he sometimes does not dress. He was given a chance earlier in the season and did not take advantage of it. The emergence of Wallace certainly makes Sweed expendable. But the Steelers believe he has talent and aren’t ready to give up on him. But if he does not show improvement in the 2010 training camp his job is in jeopardy.

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Q: Has anyone taken note of the fact that Tennessee has not won a game since stomping on the Terrible Towel last December? I think Myron has cursed them from above.

Greg Miller

 

Bob Smizik: I’m sure Myron Cope is chuckling over the fact the Titans’ ``sacrilege'' has come back to haunt them in the extreme.

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Q: Do you think the Pirates' situations looks even worse playing in a town with the Steelers and Penguins. I realize the Pens have had their problems over the years, but currently does it magnify just how inept the baseball team is when you have two solid franchises in the same city.

Steve Voyak

 

Bob Smizik: The Pirates don’t need any help in looking bad. They’ve kind of cornered the market in that field. Still, the success of the Penguins and Steelers only accentuates their incompetence. The fact the Penguins have rebuilt so quickly and so successfully makes the 17 years of Pirates futility look even worse.

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Q: Is Tim McCarver watching the same game as the we are? And why does Joe Buck think every night is the greatest game? It seems as if these guys have been doing the ACLC and World Series forever and it is almost unwatchable at this point!

Jack Chren

 

Bob Smizik: It’s all a matter of taste, Jack. I happen to think Buck and McCarver, who are doing the ALCS and will do the World Series, are as good as it gets and vastly superior to the TBS crew of Chip Carey, Ron Darling and Buck Martinez. Darling is good, Martinez is OK but Carey is a lightweight.

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Q: I just noticed that Pitt does not end its season with West Virginia this year, but rather against Cincinnati. Granted, if things go as hoped, that could be a great game featuring two top 10 teams playing for the Big East title. But how did the Cincinnati game get placed after the WVU game? Is this a one-time occurrence?

Mike Viola

 

Bob Smizik: I don't believe Pitt-WVU is in concrete as far as being the final game of the season. This is the fourth time in six years Pitt has played a conference game after West Virginia. I think the idea is for Pitt and WVU to play on the Thanksgiving weekend. Now that there is a 12th game, it pushes the schedule into December.

 


Posted Oct 24 2009, 01:00 AM by Bob Smizik

Comments

Californication wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 4:56 AM

Cool observation.....the TOWEL's powers transcends the burg!

DIV I college football is acTiVely $piralling out of control....let 18 yr olds into the NFL draft and this fixes the problem .... in time.

McCarver is clueless....give me Jon Miller and Joe Morgan.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 7:33 AM

I agree that in many schools, athletes are used for financial means while they see college mainly as a conduit to the pros.  Last year, Pitt graduated 13 of 14 seniors yet all most people remember is their Sun Bowl game.  Pitt also provides a program where athletes can return for their degrees ... ex basketballer, Chris Taft, opted for the NBA after two years,is now back on campus finishing his degree.

The fact is that many schools, like PSU, have exemplary records of graduating student athletes, thus it wouldn't be accurate to paint all D1 schools in the same color.  Lastly, please note that even Florida State had an athlete just last year that chose Oxford (Rhodes Scholar) over the NFL.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 7:40 AM

While I believe in the "Curse of Myron" especially with Halloween coming, I believe the Titans' woes deal mainly with the lack of two traits that are common to winners  ... respect and character. That team which decided to totally disrespect its opponent while on top, does not appear to have the character to pick itself up when facing adversity.

BFD wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 8:35 AM

Bob -

I always enjoyed your colums and now your blog, as well as your radio appearences.  That said, I would be curious as to how much hockey you watch.  While I think you are knowledgable regarding most sports, I can't help but notice what appears to be non-interest for hockey.

The Pens were playing bad hockey and looked to have very little hope in making the playoffs prior to Gonch;s return last ear.  In no way were the Pens better off having him out most of the year and "fresh" for the finish.  Over the course of the years he has never been a player to show signs of tiring towards the end.

That being said, this is a great Pgh sports weekend.  2 home Pens games.PITT is home as is the Steelers.

(Although I was the Penguins beat writer early in my career, I've never made it a secret that hockey is not my favorite sport. So, yes, what you see as a lack of interest is correct.

There were many factors in the Penguins resurgence last year besides Gonchar -- new coach, two new wings. I will stick with what I said about Gonchar:  Missing six weeks of this season will have little affect on the Penguins chances of repeating and might serve him well in regards to energy remaining during the playoffs. -- Bob Smizik)

collegesportsfan wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 9:05 AM

BFD,  while I may not be the ardent fan of the Pens that many others are, I am a fan and remember that the Pens actually played very well at the start of last season without Gonchar (who was injured in pre-season.)  Certainly, they are a better team with him and it was great to have a fresh veteran at the point of the power play for the stretch run last year.  That being said, there were many other elements that occured at the same time of his return ... so I don't think it is fair to overemphasize his importance .... and above all, I hope that Pens aren't thinking like you are.

As far as not tiring towards the end of the year, Gonchar is in his upper 30s, and his past may not be as indicative as you may wish to think.

Ernie wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 9:11 AM

I would love it if every reporter covering college sports would ask the athletes something about their classes every week and work that information into stories. The colleges insist on calling these mercenaries "student-athletes," so let's see how the student part is working out.

Of course, I like to watch Pitt and Penn State because I have a rooting interest in them, and that won't change even if every player on the team is illiterate, so I admit to being part of the problem. However, I love to watch the service academies and the Ivy League schools and Lehigh, etc. I enjoy rooting for players who have been to class the previous week.

As for the baseball announcers, Tim McCarver drives mw nuts with his gratuitous and fractured transitions, and JOe Buck, who may have learned at the foot of a master, has none of the warmth his father had, Whether he does football or baseball, he sounds to me as though he is arrogant and weary of what he is watching.

The best? Vin Scully, no matter what he is announcing. What a treat it was when MLB network gave us the Dodger feed on a late-season Pirate game. I love Jon Miller and Gary Thorne and Dave Schulman and Sean McDonough. I loved Skip Carey. The kid is, as Bob said, a lightweight, but he is better now doing national games than he was doing the Cubs, where he was simply unbearable.

BFD wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 9:17 AM

No doubt other factors helped the Pens during the stretch run.  I never said there wasn't.  His return was as big a factor as anything (with the exception of the coaching change perhaps.)

I think the team is better prepared this season to handle the absence of Gonchar this year than last.  I simply think an article stating that his absence for 6 weeks is a positive is rediculous.  No offense Bob.

Lets move on..... how about that boo'ing of Stull?  :)

BFD wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 9:21 AM

regarding the baseball anouncers...... I can't listen to them...especially Buck.  Especially after his over reaction to the fake TO mooning incident.  These MLB announcers act like this is the greatest thing on earth and every long drawn out pinch could be the end of earth as we know it.  MLB playoffs stink.  Only a handful of teams have a chance to make the playoffs.............that being said, maybe my attitude is that of a scorn x-Pirate fan.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 9:41 AM

BFD,  I agree with you but have a slight correction ... the fake mooning was by Randy Moss

chancellorpink wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 9:54 AM

3 things I agree with:

1) Ben Roethlisberger is good enough to get the Steelers to the Super Bowl with the power of his arm;

2) Myron Cope is smiling; and

3) hockey is not my favorite sport.

the chancellor

BFD wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 9:55 AM

tHAT'S RIGHT.... it was Moss..... That was the such at over-reaction...... good catch

BlitzBurghDude wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 11:24 AM

csf-

Gonchar is 35 yrs. old.

Spatula wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 11:36 AM

As I've written elsewhere, "The Idiocy of Funding College Football," most major football programs lose money.  So, in addition to exploiting the football players so the alumni and boosters can feel good about themselves, the universities exploit the rest of the student body to fund these programs.

chilco99 wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 12:56 PM

Bob is dead on in that most fans don't care about admission standards or graduation rates for student-athletes. Count me in as part of the non-caring group. In a free market economy where those with less than a high school diploma can become  financial planners and stock brokers and cash that into millions, why not the amateur athlete?

Let's face it, few will become the next Marcus Welby, MD or Perry Mason, Esquire.

I'd rather see alot of these kids hanging around campus doing near to nothing and "maybe" get a shot in the pros and learn some teamwork values than remaining mired in some of the rough neighborhoods they come from and end up dead or on drugs.

Let's lift the veil and pretense of "student-athlete" and tell it like it is. Leave the story book stuff for Army, Navy, & Air Force.

MarkInDallas wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 1:01 PM

If we compare the Pirates rebuilding effort to the Peguins'...

#1. The Penguins were even worse than the Pirates (except the whole 17 years thing). The Penguins had two #1 picks and a #2 pick in a 3 year span. And they were lucky enough to get the best recent goalie prospect AND two of the 3 best players in the world with the other 2 picks. In other words, the Washington Nationals are more apt to have the same kind of luck than the Pirates.

#2. Hockey is a game, like the NBA, where recently drafted rookies can play immediately and have an impact. MLB is a game where that is extremely rare, and even the best prospects need 2 years in the minors, but 3-5 is more likely.

#3. The Penguins had good ownership and GMs before the rebuild, and good drafts - not the Littlefield legacy the Pirates have to deal with.

#4. The Penguins' rebuild began in 2003 and the Pens were still really bad for 3 years after the 1st draft. This past season has only been ONE year since the Pirates' first draft under Huntington.

#5. The NHL lockout, which helped the Pens to get Crosby in the lottery, also fixed the major flaws in the system that caused the Pens financial problems (along with getting a new arena). The Pens then came out of that knowing they could afford their rising stars with more certainty. The Pirates still remain at a sizable financial disadvantage.

CONCLUSION...

Considering Huntington is at a considerable disadvantage in so many areas as compared to the Pens' situation, we shouldn't really be surprised if it takes more than 3 years - which the Pens took - to right the Pirate ship.

BFD wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 4:21 PM

MARK

#6.  tHE PIRATES have been rebuilding for 17 pathetic seasons.

#7 The NH era is looking as bad or worse than Littlefield.

#8  The Pens had/have direction and mgt committed to winning....Nutting is not.

Meathead wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 4:54 PM

#9 The NHL is a garage league with talent spread so thin that having two of the three best players in the world--why do we always refer to the best NHL players a best in the world?--a solid goalie and three or four other players who can skate and stickhandle at the same time is sufficient to win it all

BFD wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 8:42 PM

Meathead -

Your comment above is beyond rediculous.  You obviously do not know anything about the sport............ You probably never played a sport in your life.

Meathead wrote re: Letters: Shame of college athletics
on Sat, Oct 24 2009 11:19 PM

What's so "rediculous" about it?  Most Americans don't bother to play it.  There are too many teams in the NHL for the available talent.  A team with two good lines is playoff worthy.  Three good lines?  You're talking a bonafide Stanley Cup contender.