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Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs

By Bob Smizik | Monday, 7:45 a.m.

Nobody asked me about radio and television, but . . .

* I’m not sure there’s anyone in any sport who does play-by-play better on television than Doc Emrick, who is currently working the Western Conference final of the Stanley Cups playoffs. Emrick is extremely knowledgeable, concise in his comments and able to convey the excitement and drama of the game without becoming hysterical.

* With FSN Pittsburgh grabbing enormous ratings with its coverage of the Penguins in the first two rounds of the playoffs, the radio broadcasts on WXDX (105.9 FM) probably did not get a ton of listeners. But Mike Lange’s calls have been truly exceptional. Being fired from the TV side of the broadcast has revitalized Lange’s career. He’s never been better.

* With the return of the ``The Herd,’’ with Colin Cowherd (1250 ESPN, noon to 2 p.m. weekdays), I am reminded Colin Cowherdwhy I was so glad when the station removed this show years ago in favor of ``Junker and Crow,’’  (now ``Stan and Guy’’). Cowherd can be an entertaining guy, but no one beats a point to death like he does -- over and over and over until you have no choice but to change the station.

* Whether I’m listening on radio or watching on television, when the Penguins game is over, I tune in to the radio post-game with Bob Grove on WXDX. Nobody has a better handle on what transpired than Grove, who is joined by Phil Bourque, Lange’s color analyst. They break down the game in honest fashion, offer excellent insights and keep overzealous callers at bay.

* So far, so good with Tim Neverett, who has replaced Lanny Frattare in a play-by-play role on Pirates broadcasts. Neverett calls a good game, keeps up with the action and seems to blend well with his color analysts.

* Greg Brown, the Pirates other play-by-play announcer, has to work harder at keeping pace with the action on radio or either stick strictly to television. His failure to keep up with what is happening on the field is an enormous drawback.

* No radio station in Pittsburgh ever has done a better job of gathering news and reporting it than 1250 ESPN.

* In a difficult job, Brown excels in conducting the interview show with Pirates general manager Neal Huntington every Sunday. Brown works for the Pirates, which puts him in an awkward position for an interviewer, but asks good questions and the show works well.

* I’m thinking the bosses at 1250 ESPN weren’t too happy the other day when the point Cowherd beat to death was the unimportance of hockey in general and the Stanley Cup playoffs in particular.

* The guess here is the abundance of promotional announcements between innings of Pirates games is an indicator -- big surprise -- that the team is having trouble selling advertising.

* Speaking of small radio audiences, I’d love to see the numbers on how the Pirates draw on radio when the game is televised.

* If any town can handles a pro football show two hours a night, five days a week, 12 months a year, it’s Pittsburgh. Which means ``Stiilers 365’’ with Ken Laird is a good idea, even if it draws a small audience. 1250 ESPN continues to run roughshod over Fox Sports Radio 970 (not that station owner Clear Channel cares a whit) and this is just another example of the commitment 1250 has and what its competition does not.

* There’s probably never been a more successful sports talk show than ``Mike and Mike in the Morning’’ (1250 ESPN, 6 to 10 a.m. weekdays), nor one that is more slickly produced. The show has made major stars out of Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic. But if you tire of their shtick, and that’s entirely possible, Steve Czaban (Fox Sports Radio 970, 6 to 9 a.m., weekdays) is a refreshing change. Czaban isn’t nearly as programmed as the Mikes and takes his sports less seriously and deals with them with more humor.

 


Posted May 18 2009, 07:45 AM by Bob Smizik

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bugsyboy wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 8:03 AM

Couldn't agree with you more on Cowherd.  Not only annoying but very biased.  Although I listen to Rome - he can give Cowherd a run for beating a point into the ground as well.  

I switched from Mike and Mike to Czaban a couple of months ago.  I like the "not produced" format he uses that is similar to what Mike and Mike used to have.  He will also talk about things outside of the Yankees/Red Sox, NFL and NBA.  

Great article.

Bingram wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 8:33 AM

Interesting points, Bob. Mike Emerick is without a doubt the best in the business, clean, concise, and he adds to the story without overpowering it. And Mike Lange is really best suited to radio, in my opinion. His rapid fire delivery is able to paint a picture and convey excitement on radio that is neither necessary or really even desirable on television. Plus he seems to have a real chemistry with Phil Bourque, whitch adds to the broadcast.

MikeinNC09 wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 8:36 AM

Cowherd is a plague in the world of sports talk radio, guys like him and Rome are complete wastes of air.  ESPN radio went from a Hall of Famer in Kornheiser to a minor league fool like Cowherd.

Mike/Mike....too plastic and programmed for my tastes.  Czaban is definitely more to my liking.  

Santo Gold wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 9:09 AM

I agree with the comments about Mike Lange.  I enjoy him much more on the radio, as he does do a great job describing the game.  Not so much with Phil Bourque though, as he does a little to much "me too-ing" with Lange.

I enjoy the the Rome show, although the host does beat a point into the ground far too often.

ProspectHunter wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 9:17 AM

Luckily for me I get M&M in the podcast format which tends to focus more on their guests and not on the shtick.

Could not agree more on Cowherd.  He's a Rome imitator and if you don't care for Rome (I do not) he's not going anywhere near your dial.  Tiring, amatuerish, and loves to hear his own voice more than anything.

I agree that the switch to Neverett has been a good one, he manages the intensely competitive game as well as the blowout and does seem to be developing genuine on-air connections with the color team.  That being said, I really wish the Pirates would upgrade their color team either in skills or in personnel.  Walk gives about the most detailed view of the inner workings of the tactics or game situations and that is appreciated, but the whole lot suffers from a lack of knowledge on current baseball outside of Pittsburgh.  They do not bring any commentary on what other players capabilities are, how the night's opposing team scouts out, or anything related to baseball moves outside the Pirates organization.  And be clear, I'm not expecting Baseball Tonight during a Pirates game, but a little homework would be welcome.  As an example, I was listening to the game last year when we were playing the Reds when Jay Bruce was in his first week in the majors.  At the time, Bruce was the number one hitting prospect in all of baseball, had dominated minor league pitching in each stop, and had a very interesting hitting analysis I'll spare the blog.  Walk's total commentary, "the Reds think he's pretty good."  A little homework is all I'm asking...

Oh, and Wehner still sounds like he has a mouth full of marbles...

jtads14 wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 10:19 AM

I completely agree with the following statement, "No radio station in Pittsburgh ever has done a better job of gathering news and reporting it than 1250 ESPN."

But the Paulsen, Logan, and Crow show from 2 - 6 is awful.  Logan doesn't know anything except for football and he doesn't have that radio voice that makes easy listening.

I think Joe Bendel does a fantastic job on Fox Sports 970 from 3 - 7.  He covers a variety of topics and is very insightful.

scootermojo wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 10:35 AM

I couldn't agree more that Doc Emrick does a fantastic job in hockey although for my money my favorite announcers to listen to from any sport are either Vin Scully or the team of Jon Miller and Joe Morgan for ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.

It doesn't surprise me the least that Mike Lange is doing a fantastic job on the radio...he was always very classy and a great broadcaster and I consider it a travesty that he got fired.

Besides the obvious reasons, one of the best things to happen along with the Pens advancing the to the Conference Finals is that I don't have to listen to Paul Steigerwald anymore...he is horrible!!!  Hands down, the worst announcer in sports and the biggest homer...every goal scored by the opposition is a garbage goal and Paul has tons of excuses for the Penguins yet if the Pens score the EXACT SAME WAY it's a miraculous display of athletic achievement.

It's also very annoying when Steigerwald talks about the Pens Cup years in '91 and '92 and pompously refers to them as "we"...as if he played or was integral.  Lange never did that and always seperated himself from the actual team.

Lange should consider Steigerwald a backstabber for taking that job and not refusing it.  Is there any chance at all that Steigerwald will be fired or have his contract not renewed when it's up and Lange is back on TV where he belongs?

Tor Eckman wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 2:02 PM

Bob.  I couldn't agree with you more about Lange and Neverette.

I presonally felt that Mike Lange had slipped before his firing from tv.   I think it is human nature to become comfortable in a job and that is probably what had happened to Mike.  Listening to him on the radio over the past few games was fantastic.  He sounded like the Mike Lange of old.

Neverette has been very enjoyable thus far.  He calls a good game on the radio side and he doesn't seem afraid to criticize players when necessary, which seemed to pain Lanny to no end.  Lanny became way too much of a company man for me.  .  I know he worked for the Pirates but he lost all credibility with me because he simply wouldn' t call bad play for what it was.

ericPitt wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 2:28 PM

ESPN Radio 1250 does a great job of reporting the sports news, but outside of Junker and Savran, they have little to no sports knowledge.  "The Drive" could be, quite possibly, the worst radio show I've ever listened to (second only to M&M in the morning).  None of them know anything except for Pittsburgh Steelers football of the past 7.5 years.  Ask any of them to give an honest answer about the defensive prowess of say, Dennis Seidenberg and their first response would be "who?"

All of the hacks on ESPN radio are the same: NBA NBA NBA RedSox Yankees Steroids in Baseball NFL Draft NFL NFL NBA RedSox Yankees NBA Steroids over and over again.

Unless of course there are some brackets to talk about or the BCS rankings.

The letters "NHL" are barely mentioned on any of their networks.  The NHL's fault? Maybe, but they can't call themselves a legitimate news organization and ignore sports that don't fall under their contracts.  Watching a hockey highlight on ESPN is seriously one of the most painful events one can endure (unless Buccigross is doing it).  Wait I forgot about Paul Alexander (FSN) doing ANY highlight, I'd rather skin a cat while it scrapes the chalkboard.

collegesportsfan wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 18 2009 3:29 PM

1.  agree that Cowherd can be entertaining but is often way overbearing.

2.. Local ESPN 1250 can improved dramatically by eleominating the two non-talents, Mack and Crow, and giving Tab Douglas more air time.

3.  Mike Greenberg benefits from the ESPN empire.  I've always thought he takes sports too seriously to be a good morning host, and is not very witty or funny.  He dwarfs in comparision to his predecessor, Tony Bruno (remember him.)  Bruno and Golic was much more entertaining.

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emoneypitt wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 1:00 AM

Bob,

Any commentary on the jobs Paul Steigerwald and Bob Errey do on the TV side of the Penguins? Or do you plead the Fifth? :)

As far as Neverett, at first I wasn't that impressed with him but I've warmed to him. I don't think I'll ever call him a favorite but he does a good job.

CuriousGeorge wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 4:47 AM

I live on the other side of the world.

Try listening to a cricket match on radio.

I'm desperate, simply because they play with a bat and a ball.

Sports talk show? You complaining?

Try listening about cricket, rugby, sailing, netball, tennis, field hockey, Formula One, or, the all time favorite (or favourite) -

English Premier League.

Almost like baseball , but worse.

Approximately 30 teams, and year in and year out only 4 have a legitimate chance to win the title - Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, and the glory seekers, Manchester United.

The only good thing is that each year, the three worst teams get sent down to a lower division.

By now, the Pirates would be about division four.

PennHillsBubba wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 5:46 AM

Czaban's show is much more entertaining than Mike and Mike. The Czabe covers the entire sports spectrum(and sometimes non-sports related stuff) with a good sense of humor and fun. He gets that one can only take so much ARod, TO, RedSox, Yankees, etc, etc,etc....

Demery44 wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 11:42 AM

The Drive is the worst radio show in history.

Even worse than Rob Pratte on the weekends.

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Groat2Maz2Strangeglove wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 2:26 PM

Cowherd  .  .  .  .  a verbal plague on our houses.  If I wanted to listen to a guy who talks non-stop without saying anything, I would turn to 104.7 from 6:00 — 8:00 each night!

coachrv30 wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 3:17 PM

Just a comment or two if I might. First, like any other replacement of an announcer who has broadcast games for a number of years, a person we have grown to expect and respect, is a challenge to both the broadcaster and the listeners as well. Tim replacing Lanny is definitely an example of this. I, too, think he has done a great job during this transition period and seems to get even better as the season progresses.

But I would also like to praise the work of Greg Brown, who to me adds much to Pirates' broadcasts. As an outsider to the city of Pittsburgh, but a long-time Pirate fan, I don't know what the general consensus is of Greg and the job he does, but to me he brings much to the game, especially when he and Bob Walk team together. When you think of the many years of long-spell losing that have plagued the Bucs, it is no easy assignment making games exciting even when they aren't on  many occasions, adding some humor during times of disappointment, pinpointing some specific criticisms of team play without being negative, sometimes questioning managerial moves while still justifying those decisions, adding insight to play-by-play events and what could have-should have been done offensively and/or defensively, expressing displeasure at some obvious mistakes of umpires without being disrespectful, being upbeat and positive about the players, fans, and hopes for the season even when there seems to be little hope at all. The list could go on and one, but you can certainly catch the gist of my thoughts. Personally, I look forward to both the games and those broadcasting them since they bring personality to the game and support for the city of Pittsburgh. As mentioned before, I don't know what the overall consensus is of the fans in or near Pittsburgh, but I would enjoy hearing some feedback concerning the broadcasts. In the meantime, in spite of how the Pirates are playing - positively or negatively - I'll be a fan for a long, long time. The play-by-play crew adds immensely to this. "Raise the Jolly Roger!"

stillers44 wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 4:47 PM

I agree on Cowherd and Mike & Mike completely.  I was very disappointed when I found out that Cowherd was going to be on at noon.  I liked to listen to Stan & Guy when I was out on my lunch hour.  Now I listen to Rome because he is the lesser of two evils.

Mike & Mike lost me back when Vick first got in trouble for dog fighting.  They beat that story into the ground for weeks.  They have become a parody of themselves with their stupid bets and games they play.   I listen to Czaban now and enjoy his show much better.

Coachrv30 - You asked for feedback on Greg Brown from fans in Pittsburgh.  Well here's mine, I don't care for him.  He ruins big plays with his need to try to create catchphrases.  His La-La-La-La-LaRoche is brutal and now it's worse because we have two of them he can use that on.  But I officially turned on when Mackowiak hit the walkoff grand slam the same day his son was born.  Brown yelled "Mack-whack-talliwack" and ruined the moment.  The play (along with his homer in the second game) made the national headlines that night and the next morning and every time we had to listen to Greg Brown embarrass Pittsburgh.

Mr. Pitt wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Tue, May 19 2009 10:13 PM

At some point the M&M Show became more about them than the sports they are covering.  I'd rather hear about sports than who is having their legs shaved, etc. Not to mention that you regularly have to suffer through Peter Gammons (Yankees/Red Sox talk) and Dick Vitale (enough said). Czaban's show is fun and covers a wide range of sports. The only drawback to this show is that the host loves Ovechkin and doesn't think a lot of Crosby!

Stan and Guy are a good listen. I wish Dan Patrick were not against them. He would be a much better alternative to Rome and Cowherd in the early afternoon slot.

"The Drive" is unlistenable if that is a word. Bendel is good. Lots of variety. Pretty straight forward.

I personally wish Jim Colony had a bigger role at ESPN. I have always found him to be knowledgeable and with a pretty dry sense of humor.

and of course...Mike Lange rules!

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sarcastic sword wrote re: Emrick, Lange shine in playoffs
on Mon, May 25 2009 12:23 AM

Bob,

Your criticism of Greg Brown is the same criticism I have of Mike Lange.  In my opinion, he is horrible on the radio because he does not keep up with the action...Listen to his goal calls from Mellon Arena and you can tell the Pens score a good 1-3 seconds before he calls it because he is so behind in the play-by-play.  A good radio guy has to paint a picture for the listener - he fails miserably in this regard - he calls a game on radio as if he's the tv guy where the viewer is watching and doesnt need that word for word detail.  Just my view but hes awful.

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